<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">It's not a knock on a player like Redd, Pierce, or Magloire. James has just hands down been better, more popular, and has had more of an impact that those 3 this season. You want to compare Redd to someone? Think about his twin brother, Allan Houston, and he has never been an All-Star despite appearing in 22 career NBA Playoff games, averaging 20.9 ppg in those games. Or ask the Bucks if they would be interested in a trade, James for Redd, sure they would reject that one Sorry mate, just had to go there, he is just a younger Allan Houston. James does so much more, people just ignore assists numbers again too.</div> That is very disrespectful to Michael Redd he plays nothing like Allen Houston,they are totally different players,why compare just because they can shoot great? Redd does ALOT more for his team than Houston ever has.He does that kind called rebounding,Houston has never done that decently,passes the ball well but the fact he has a PG who is top 10 in assists hurts his chances to average more assists.Plays much better defense than Houston ever has You need to stop takng your frustrations out on a guy who truely deserved to make it,Redd is on a winning team,he deserves every bit of credit he gets For the record,Redd did not replace Lebron,Baron Davis was the guy they choosen ahead of LJ. There is no need to be so bitter. A part from Magloire the guys who were selected were good picks.
Im actually happy for Michael Redd. I have been his mark since last season when he was on the bench. Things blew up for him this year. MIP?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Auburn Hills, Mich.- LeBron James missed another chance at playing in next weekend's NBA All-Star Game and he will likely decline if given another opportunity. The coaches selected 14 players as reserves yesterday to fill out the roster for the East and West All-Star teams and James wasn't among them. The seven players in the East were Jason Kidd, Paul Pierce, Baron Davis, Ron Artest, Michael Redd, Kenyon Martin and Jamaal Magloire. Tracy McGrady, Allen Iverson and Davis are all nursing injuries. If they decide not to play, Commissioner David Stern will select a replacement. That possibility doesn't motivate James. "At this point, since I wasn't a part of the [reserves] they first picked, I wouldn't even like to be a part of the team if someone didn't make it [because of injury]," James said. "I'm an only child. I never want to be picked second. I don't come second. That's just the way I feel." </div> Read the rest
So ASG without LeBron. But rookie challange will be propably the best of all time. LBJ, Melo, Wade and other great rookies in one team . That is sweet Maybe Rookie got milk? challange will be better than All-Star Game.
i appologise for starting this thread saying james will be a all-star i heard it on wtam, they were saying he is gonna be a all-star for sure. i appologise.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">You need to stop takng your frustrations out on a guy who truely deserved to make it,Redd is on a winning team,he deserves every bit of credit he gets There is no need to be so bitter.</div> I am not frustrated, I am not bitter, but I every time I say Redd is no all star, that is when I see frustration and bitterness. Redd's numbers are vert close to Houstons career numbers, off by what, a board and a half? Lot closer than you think pal. Why would I hate on Redd? I don't hate on any NBA player, you guys know that, but here you go sticking the homer thing in my face again, now that is disrespect. I can play along with you guys if I want because Redd went to "The Ohio State University" and that would cancel it out just fine. James has been better and there is no way, shape, or form that you can prove to anyone otherwise. Call me a homer if you wish, what ever gets your rocks off, because I see who is really frustrated. Don't judge me and I won't judge you for things like your terrible grammer, like please use the spacebar
Why is it necessary to look at Pierce's rookie numbers? Pierce didn't make the All-Star roster by putting up what he did in his rookie season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ANiMuS:</div><div class="quote_post">Why is it necessary to look at Pierce's rookie numbers? Pierce didn't make the All-Star roster by putting up what he did in his rookie season.</div> You did that brah, saying that Pierce is better...I just wanted to show ya a few things, educate.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I am not frustrated, I am not bitter, but I every time I say Redd is no all star, that is when I see frustration and bitterness. Redd's numbers are vert close to Houstons career numbers, off by what, a board and a half? Lot closer than you think pal. </div> Considering this is Redd first year as a starter thats not a valid reason to why he is no better than Allen Houston.Redd is a very good slasher, better defender, better rebounder, better passer, I could go on and no how he is no way comparable to Houston. Oh did I forget better leader? Just because he has averaged the same amount of points,seen as a shooter does not mean he is the same kind of player from Allen Houston. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would I hate on Redd? I don't hate on any NBA player, you guys know that, but here you go sticking the homer thing in my face again, now that is disrespect. I can play along with you guys if I want because Redd went to "The Ohio State University" and that would cancel it out just fine. James has been better and there is no way, shape, or form that you can prove to anyone otherwise. Call me a homer if you wish, what ever gets your rocks off, because I see who is really frustrated. </div> It is very debatable that Redd has had a better season than Lebron James.Better scorer,better shooter,better shot selection,soild rebounder,better defender,better slasher (Again very debatable) Just because Lebron has 5 assists a game doesn't mean he has had that much better of a season than Redd. It isn't Michael's job to amount up the asissts every night, He hasn't been running the point all season which Lebron has, Redd's job is so score the basketball.Do I need to remind you of a certain Ray Allen's job at the Bucks? to score and leave the playmaking to the point guard Sam Cassell.Now Ray is on a team where he has to run alot of the plays he has been racking up 5 assists a game,Redd is a good passer when the ball is in his hands.Redd also has the advantage of leading his team to a top 4 seed with a roster which was expected to be worse than the Cavs Bare that in mind <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't judge me and I won't judge you for things like your terrible grammer, like please use the spacebar </div> Terrible Grammer? It is fine as it is, Spacebar? Last I checked I always use the spacebar when making posts otherwise how would you understand what I'm saying..You of all people know I won't ever take for crap like that. Seeing as you like to bring out any faults I may have on here Anymore crap you want to bring up?
In the end, James not making the All Star game will probably be better off for the Cavs. He said that he wasn't too upset about not getting selected, but his "I'm a motherf**kin all star bitch" statment after beating the buzzer in the first quarter against Detroit says otherwise. Hopefully, this will motivate not only him, but the whole Cavs roster and push us towards the playoffs. Lebron is an all around better player than Redd, but you can't leave Redd off after his break out season this year. I'd have taken Lebron over Pierce, but Pierce and Kidd have got to the point where as long as they are having a good year, they are going to make it every time.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">You did that brah, saying that Pierce is better...I just wanted to show ya a few things, educate.</div> Because Pierce is better. I don't think the All-Star game takes into account what players will be doing 6 years from now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting redscoon:</div><div class="quote_post"> He said that he wasn't too upset about not getting selected, but his "I'm a motherf**kin all star bitch" statment after beating the buzzer in the first quarter against Detroit says otherwise.</div> We told you he was going to be fired up didn't we. But no the people didn't listen. Now look what you did. lol
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TimFlem:</div><div class="quote_post">We told you he was going to be fired up didn't we. But no the people didn't listen. Now look what you did. lol</div> Lebron was terrible from the field and wasn't taken out of the game by Pistons great team defense.Boozer was the only reason the Cavs came away with a shocking victory.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Lebron was terrible from the field and wasn't taken out of the game by Pistons great team defense.Boozer was the only reason the Cavs came away with a shocking victory.</div> Shocking? Cavs are 2-1 against the Pistons and won those 2 games consecutively, the first win being in blowout fashion. The Pistons also focused on James the entire night. Every time James got the ball to isolate of Rip Hamilton, the Pistons had someone else directly behind the 2, not allowing James to do anything but pass out of the double team/shadow defense. Back to the Redd thing, I feel much better now that you said that everying was debatable, that was the only point I was trying to make bro. To Pierce, the numbers are so freakin' close that the 2 could pass for identical clones (Think Olsen twins)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Shocking? Cavs are 2-1 against the Pistons and won those 2 games consecutively, the first win being in blowout fashion. The Pistons also focused on James the entire night. Every time James got the ball to isolate of Rip Hamilton, the Pistons had someone else directly behind the 2, not allowing James to do anything but pass out of the double team/shadow defense. </div> Shocking meaning, Pistons fighting for the top seed , at the palace where they are close to unbeatable, I say it was a shocking loss.No doubt Cavs deserved to win the game considering how poorly Pistons played but It should not of been a loss. Cavs may have a 2-1 record against the Pistons this year but that doesn't escape the fact Pistons are a much better team at this current moment in time. As for Lebron,Pistons are known for hard nose defense,that was the story last night whenever Lebron got the ball. He should expect all of that for years to come from every team in this league.
The Cavs have played teams that have better records than them tough all year, such as the Pacers, Pistons, Sixers, Sonics, and Knicks. The record debate is screwed a bit because of the trades. After each trade was made the Cavs made huge leaps and bounds. Cavs were 6-18 before the Ricky Davis trade! Cavs were 8-10 after the Ricky Davis trade! Cavs are 5-1 after the with Jeff McInnis playing! Wagner, James, Boozer, Battie, Kapono, and Diop have all been on the injured list as well at one time or another. So fact is, this team is better than the record states and nothing should be shocking because we have been beating good basketball teams.
As I have stated before the Cavs are much improved that they were early in the season. Pistons however will be challenging for the a place in the NBA finals. Pacers and Pistons have been head and shoulders ahead of everyone in the east up to this point. NJ have started to get their act togeather by starting to get some good wins in a row but the Pistons record speaks for It's self, It's right up there with the best in the league. As much as Cavs have improved, last night was not a game Pistons should of lost Period
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">As much as Cavs have improved, last night was not a game Pistons should of lost</div> Well, they did Back on topic, I would like to thank... Around The Horn Pardon The Interruption Dan Patrick Steven A. Smith Greg Anthony Sean Elliott David Aldridge Ric Bucher Marc Stein For all calling out the NBA in leaving James off the All-Star team. Smith even said himself that he could not name 7 better players in the East than LeBron. This is by no means any form if disrespect to the players that were selected, just a bash on the NBA for deciding to cash in on a Friday for themselves than doing the right thing and giving the fans what they want. Seems like I am not alone in this one fellas, but what the hell do I know, I'm the biggest homer on the board
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">What is up with the Nets having 2 all-stars when they have been underachieving and "doggin it" all season long? There is no excuse for the Nets to not be a 1/2 seed as we speak.</div> Then on to page 4 of this thread... <div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Wagner, James, Boozer, Battie, Kapono, and Diop have all been on the injured list as well at one time or another. So fact is, this team is better than the record states and nothing should be shocking because we have been beating good basketball teams.</div> My point is, I know that the Nets are underachieving this season. But as you've said (and i definitely agree), records are not usually the measure of a team's greateness. There'll always be reasons why that's their record. Just for the record, here's the "Nets' Mess" http://www.nj.com/nets/ledger/index.ssf?/b...05017260350.xml So the fact still remains that the Nets are the beast of the East unless proven otherwise and that is because both Kidd and K-mart are putting up all-star numbers. I'm with Allnet on this one. Redd should be in the ASG. Lebron should be in it too but not at the expense of Redd. Oh and Redd is way better than Houston for reasons stated by Allnet.
^^Please read above Someone must get the axe, I am just not too sure about ESPN in saying that James should have been selected over Pierce, because I loke both of their numbers over Redd's, who's numbers are sure not exactly like Houston's, but r e a l l y close. Just for the sake of argument that's all this is, for our entertainment. I understand that Redd is the people champion and he would not be cut off this team for any one player, so forget Redd. Who do you sit for the biggest snub in the NBA, just for the sake of argument. Stop jumping on me for this, it is a great topic!
