Redd deserves to be there, but I think LeBron also should have been voted in by the coaches. More than anything, this looks to me to be a case of the NBA trying to take LeBron's popularity down a few notches after building it up so high. They might be thinking too much, too soon for LeBron. Really though, this is only going to drive LeBron even more, it really is a good thing for him I believe. Don't worry, this will be the only time in his career that he misses an all-star game. He'll be there next year, and will be the MVP of many all-star games to come.
If you ask me I think that Boozer is about 30x better than K-Mart and that he should be on the team. As for being the Beast of the East, It is not the Nets this year, it will be the Pacers who will make it to the finals and even have a chance to win it this year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Amherstcavsfan:</div><div class="quote_post">If you ask me I think that Boozer is about 30x better than K-Mart and that he should be on the team. As for being the Beast of the East, It is not the Nets this year, it will be the Pacers who will make it to the finals and even have a chance to win it this year.</div> He may ending up being better than K-Mart, but not yet. Boozer's run came a little too late and I agree with K-Mart being there. If Boozer puts up 20 and 15 next year, hell, he will be the starter. Can't have 2 all stars just yet, the record needs to be well above .500, as we are getting there, people still look at the current record and see "losers" Time will fix that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post"> Redd's numbers are vert close to Houstons career numbers, off by what, a board and a half? Lot closer than you think pal.</div> That is why a great player like Steve Nash can make it one year, and not make it the next. Career averages are irrelevant, it's based on a specific year. Cassel's career averages are probably better than Nash's yet it is his first trip to the ASG.
Houston has had very close season's to Redd, that was the point I was making TB. The Bucks are everyone's darlings, I understand that, I love them too and hope they do well. You can't look at those numbers between the 2 and say that they are far off, that's all. This is amazing if you ask me, that Buck board should come to life. Party on!
Just because two guys have "similar" numbers doesn't mean they're the same player (e.g. Houston and Redd, Pierce and LeBron).
Will someone help me get this topic going in the right direction again? Forget Redd. Who does LeBron replace on the East roster and why? Have at it. (If no one, well, don't post, this is just to further the topic)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Houston has had very close season's to Redd, that was the point I was making TB.</div> Ahhh, gotcha. Houston is at a disadvantage though, because he has been around longer and everyone stereotypes him as being one-dimensional. Redd is having his breakout year, and still has an identity to develop. If Redd put up these numbers after being around as long as H20 he might not have made the team either.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Amherstcavsfan:</div><div class="quote_post">If you ask me I think that Boozer is about 30x better than K-Mart and that he should be on the team. As for being the Beast of the East, It is not the Nets this year, it will be the Pacers who will make it to the finals and even have a chance to win it this year.</div> 30X better?!?!?!?!?! I'm afraid to ask you another question my man. I love Boozer. He'll be an all-star but not this year and not over K-Mart. As I've said, the Nets are technically the Beast of the East coz no one has proven it otherwise. We have to wait until the playoffs until someone else gets that honor. But heck, I'm sure the Nets will go berserk on the playoffs anyway. But please enough of that. Let's get back on topic. I'd love to see LJ in the ASG over Baron Davis. I've never been a fan of shooters who'll get loads of points because they shoot too many shots. I hate players who'll bring down the ball then suddenly pull up the three. That's why I hate 'Toine. I think LJ wasn't chosen because they want to build up the LJ and Melo rivalry that the league's missing ever since the Magic/Bird rivalry. Besides, it's highly debatable that LJ and Melo are both producing all star numbers and both are worthy of ROY. So when they put in Lebron, it will mean that Melo should be in too. But how can you do that in the West? I'm not saying that this is correct but can you imagine what will happen when Bron made it and Melo didn't? We all know that there are loads of Melo fans out there who'll go berserk if that happened. Just take a look right now and almost no one is complaining that Melo wasn't selected. It's kind of a consolation that Bron didn't make it as well. Well for a more realistic theory, the East are loaded with guards. Baron had an MVP type of run and he's being credited for it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Will someone help me get this topic going in the right direction again? Forget Redd. Who does LeBron replace on the East roster and why? Have at it. (If no one, well, don't post, this is just to further the topic)</div> I think the topic can also be furthered with a discussion of why LeBron shouldn't be there. Not saying that's what I believe, but that sentence there makes it look like you have to point out somebody else to snub, and amongst East guards that's not necessarily a given.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ANiMuS:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the topic can also be furthered with a discussion of why LeBron shouldn't be there. Not saying that's what I believe, but that sentence there makes it look like you have to point out somebody else to snub, and amongst East guards that's not necessarily a given.</div> Well go ahead, explain why he should not, we are all ears mate
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Houston has had very close season's to Redd, that was the point I was making TB. The Bucks are everyone's darlings, I understand that, I love them too and hope they do well. You can't look at those numbers between the 2 and say that they are far off, that's all. This is amazing if you ask me, that Buck board should come to life. Party on!</div> Zach Randolph also has had simlar stats to Tim Duncan and we all know Zach's not in Timmy's league.Stats can be very misleading. Redd plays nothing like Allen Houston even If his stats may seem CLOSE to you, in reality they really aren't. Anyways, You request of getting this back to Lebron. As I have already stated he should replace a guy like Baron Davis. Many people love this guy because of the excitment he brings to the game. However he is a chucker, no doubt about it. He hurts his team with poor shot selection doesn't have the best basketball brain, you could easily say he has had no help with Mashburn out injured, which is a valid point but at the end of the day do we really need more than 2 point guards? Baron is very deserving of an all-star appearance but so is Lebron, so therefore this is the only guy I can think who Lebron should be ahead of.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">As I have already stated he should replace a guy like Baron Davis. Many people love this guy because of the excitment he brings to the game. However he is a chucker, no doubt about it. He hurts his team with poor shot selection doesn't have the best basketball brain.</div> I'm excited for this debate already (no sarcasm). Would you really put Bron above Baron Davis? Granted he gets more love than he deserves because he is making a comeback (in reference to Davis), but he has been mentioned as an MVP candidate. Allnet, your description of Davis applies to so many players around the league (Marbury, AI, etc). So ignoring the fact that AI was voted on by fans, would you have chosen Bron over him? BTW, KJ are we talking about starters or reserves that Bron should replace?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">BTW, KJ are we talking about starters or reserves that Bron should replace?</div> Leave the starters alone because that is something we can't change. Glad you see this will spark even more huge debates I still pick Bron over Redd. ESPN picks Bron over Pierce allnet Bron over Davis Who's next? (hehe)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post"> As I have already stated he should replace a guy like Baron Davis. Many people love this guy because of the excitment he brings to the game. However he is a chucker, no doubt about it. He hurts his team with poor shot selection doesn't have the best basketball brain, you could easily say he has had no help with Mashburn out injured, which is a valid point but at the end of the day do we really need more than 2 point guards? Baron is very deserving of an all-star appearance but so is Lebron, so therefore this is the only guy I can think who Lebron should be ahead of.</div> Well, I think LeBron deserved to be an All-Star but its hard to put him ahead of any of the players who made it...I can <u>maybe </u> see the arguement for Redd... but not Baron Davis...Davis is 5th in the NBA in scoring, 4th in assist, 2nd in steals...He doesn't hurt his team with his poor shot selection...that's the way Tim Floyd wanted him to play coming into the season, he even said it himself...The Hornets have gone on a 3 game losing streak since he's been out...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Thank you allnet. One vote for Davis, anyone have anyone else?</div> it should be two. I made the other one. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd love to see LJ in the ASG over Baron Davis.</div> TB76's comment: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Allnet, your description of Davis applies to so many players around the league (Marbury, AI, etc). So ignoring the fact that AI was voted on by fans, would you have chosen Bron over him?</div> I wouldn't coz AI still takes the ball to the hoop and Marbury is distributing the ball very well. I'm not voting out Baron coz of his poor %, it's his desire to shoot the three when he can very well slash to the basket that's bothering me.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting InNETSweTrust:</div><div class="quote_post">it should be two. I made the other one. </div> Thanks for pointing that out chief
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm excited for this debate already (no sarcasm). Would you really put Bron above Baron Davis? Granted he gets more love than he deserves because he is making a comeback (in reference to Davis), but he has been mentioned as an MVP candidate. Allnet, your description of Davis applies to so many players around the league (Marbury, AI, etc). So ignoring the fact that AI was voted on by fans, would you have chosen Bron over him? BTW, KJ are we talking about starters or reserves that Bron should replace?</div> The main debate was about Redd, However if a new one is set to start then fine. Would I put Lebron ahead of Baron? I would certainly consider it.Baron as good as he is shoots way too many threes,100 more than the guy in 2nd place, terrible from the line, terrible overall FG% but he is putting up the stats so It is hard to go against him when you consider the Hornets record.I was simply naming a guy who I feel Lebron could of been ahead of, Baron is the guy that comes to mind. Although Pierce could be the guy as well instead of Baron Marbury isn't a chucker, his shot selection has improved a lot since his early years in the NBA, turned into a pass first guy instead of thinking score every time down the floor. Again the real problem I have with Baron is the fact he settles for the jump shot when he has the abilty to drive the basket at will. Oh and if you aren't excited by this new debate (If it actually gets one) you don't need to stick around. The real debate was about Redd. I will answer your question about the answer Allen Iverson does so much for his team and I don't quailfy him as a chucker, he has the biggest heart in the league, attacks the rim even when suffering with injuries, there aren't many guys who go all out for their team than AI So no I wouldn't take Lebron over AI People sometimes need to realise stats aren't everything.
LeBron over Magloire. If the NBA wants a mandatory two centers per team, then the East squad should find a way to move players around to satisfy the league and make room for LeBron on the roster. Why not qualify Jermaine O'Neal as the other center? Or worst case scenario make K-Mart the backup center. Magloire is not having an All Star year, not even close, and he should not be given a spot by default. *I don't have a problem with Pierce and Davis being in it, after all they are L.A. natives!
