Vince Carter not getting enough Respect?

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  1. rapz_rulez

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    Vince Carter not getting enough R-E-S-P-E-C-T?

    I was reading this news article and it says that Vince Carter feels that he's not getting enough respect from the officials and that Jalen Rose agrees and feels that the whole team isn?t getting respect. The first thing that came to my mind when I read this article was why? Was it because Vince Carter had been injured a lot and the officials don?t believe he was as aggressive as before or because the officials just hate him, plain and simple. The weird thing was that this subject hasn't been brought up earlier from Vince Carter. Maybe Vince was just mad because he didn?t get the call in the Raptors vs. Lakers game? Also Kevin O?Neal claimed that one of the officials (no names) hates him and that?s why the Raptors didn?t get any calls. It makes me sick just thinking that an official can actually do this (which is have a list of players they dont like and thats why that player doesnt get any calls) [​IMG]
    If I get some information wrong I apologies
    (Oh and if you want to read the article,its: http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/S.../03/334149.html)
     
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    I do feel peoples reaction to "to raps" is just uh they stink, why do you like them? This is indeed onlu litle respect shown for raps. And even here people think Carter "simply" sucks. SOme people dont base their opinions on reasons you know.
     
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    vince and jalen need to shut up and play, simple like that. they may feel that they get screwed by the refs, but i bet they get more calls then rookies, or guys like carlos arroyo, or ira newble or, scott padget...etc
     
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    I think Carter needs to realize that guys like Kobe, T-mac, and Pierce get a lot of no calls when they get hacked too...the difference....they take it to the hole over and over again..

    What i'm trying to say is that those guys <u>make</u> the refs make calls, Carter drives into the lane hoping to get calls...you get what I'm saying?
     
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    I think its gonna happen for a while that Carter will still not get respect. Look at LeBron, he blows by someone, they touch him, he gets a whistle. With Carter he blows by someone, they Grab the hell outta him or shove him hard compared to anyone else, and no foul calls.. Hes gettin hit alot worst than other stars. But I think in time, if he remains aggressive and acts cool and dont always have that sad look on his face (which is his default look by the way), he will eventually get calls, even though as of now, it is quite unfair.
     
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    Now I definitely agree with Vince Carter! At first I thought he might just be mad because he didn?t get the call in the raptors vs. lakers game, but I now agree with him 100%!!!!!!!!! I saw the raptors @ sixers game and I noticed that every time Vince would scored allot, the referees would blow the whistle and then when he missed about twice, and someone hits him, but the officials didn?t call the foul, so maybe Vince does have a point, and big promps to Shaquille O'Neal who stood up to the Raptor fans and got suspended for it!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting rapz_rulez:</div><div class="quote_post">Now I definitely agree with Vince Carter! At first I though he might just be mad because he didn?t get the call in the raptors vs. lakers game, but I now agree with him 100%!!!!!!!!! I saw the raptors @ sixers game and I noticed that every time Vince would scored allot, the referees would blow the whistle and then when he missed about twice, and someone hits him, but the officials didn?t call the foul, so maybe Vince does have a point, and big promps to Shaquille O'Neal who stood up to the Raptor fans and got suspended for it!</div>

    How did he stand up against the raptor fans? He did get fouled alot, U mean he stood up against the REFs, the Raptor Fans dont make the calls on the plays. As for the Vince thing, he even said Vince did get fouled on that last possession.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting intrepid1983:</div><div class="quote_post">How did he stand up against the raptor fans? He did get fouled alot, U mean he stood up against the REFs, the Raptor Fans dont make the calls on the plays. As for the Vince thing, he even said Vince did get fouled on that last possession.</div>

    He did stand up to the Raptor Fans because he said how people pay good money to see good athletes play
     
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    carter needs to shut up and play. he's getting plenty of respect and if he stops being so verbal and starts letting his game do all of the talking, he'd start getting more.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting rapz_rulez:</div><div class="quote_post">He did stand up to the Raptor Fans because he said how people pay good money to see good athletes play</div>

    ? U mean, hes stickin up for the people and standing up to David Stern with that comment. He's stickin up for the people saying they pay good money to see athletes play, and that the refs shouldnt decide the game, just let them play, that is standing up to David Stern.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 3-pt.-gunner:</div><div class="quote_post">carter needs to shut up and play. he's getting plenty of respect and if he stops being so verbal and starts letting his game do all of the talking, he'd start getting more.</div>

    well to tell u the truth Carter rarely ever says anything. This is the first time he's ever said anything. He usually downplays stuff, u know who's verbal? Iverson is verbal, but u respect him rite? Cuz Iverson is verbal too, he gets some good foul calls, Kobe is also verbal
     
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    Vince is not getting the respect over the last couple of games. Although, it has only been the last 3 games where he has played at a level that deserves the Refs respect. If he keeps going to the lane hard, the whistles will start to blow. It's like notMuchgame said, Carter needs to make the Refs blow the whistle. Make the contact hard so there is no question he is getting fouled. Soft fouls will come if he can show that he is the aggressor and the defence is making contact to achieve an advantage on the offensive player. Refs are looking for advantage/disadvantage. If there is no advantage or disadvantage then it is a "No-Call".
     
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    Vince Carter is reaping what he sowed in the first few years of his career when he always went down like a tonne of bricks everytime anyone even blinked at him. Vince's reputation with the officials is that he's soft and because of that they don't give him calls

    On the flip side, if he continues to perservere against the various defences set to stop him with the same gusto that he's shown for a good part of this year and especially last night against the Sixers, it's possible for him to regain the respect he's lost with the refs and start to get the calls he's looking for

    He just needs to show that he wants it..............
     
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    sure vince carter is agreat player but he is sooo injury prone it isnt even funny... if he was healthy, ii'd actually like him more..
     
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    Ok, once again, Vince gets a non-call for his drive against Golden State, then they call both Claxton and R. Jefferson for their drives. In mind that both Claxton and R. Jefferson aren't even all-stars. There's the lack of respect again right there. Carter gets hit worst too, with others its a simple little tug or reach in. Yes you can keep saying that Carter was injured and once he proves he can keep driving, the refs will give it to him. But i bet by next year, the same thing will continue to happen, and ppl will still say the same thing. He's not gonna get the calls when it counts. Even if its Yogi Stewart defending him. And to tell you the truth, Carter wouldnt even get the calls that he got in this game if Shaq hadn't said something and got fined for it. He took one for the team.
     
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    AH Every Body gets hacked and fouled and don't get calls Quit Whining about it and just play the damn sport.. VC/AI/Kobe/Tmac/Pierce all don't get all the calls they want. But Shaq is the one who isn't getting his calls..... He gets fouled everytime he touches the ball or posts up...... and he doesn't whine about it... he plays the game and dunks on the player that are holding, grabbing on to him
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gotrunks226:</div><div class="quote_post">AH Every Body gets hacked and fouled and don't get calls Quit Whining about it and just play the damn sport.. VC/AI/Kobe/Tmac/Pierce all don't get all the calls they want. But Shaq is the one who isn't getting his calls..... He gets fouled everytime he touches the ball or posts up...... and he doesn't whine about it... he plays the game and dunks on the player that are holding, grabbing on to him</div>

    I meant on the final possessions. How come Claxton got the foul at the very end, and so did R. Jefferson, but not Carter. So they deserve to get foul calls more than Shaq and Carter? Im not talkin about the entire game, only the possessions that make or break the win
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting intrepid1983:</div><div class="quote_post">I meant on the final possessions. How come Claxton got the foul at the very end, and so did R. Jefferson, but not Carter. So they deserve to get foul calls more than Shaq and Carter? Im not talkin about the entire game, only the possessions that make or break the win</div>

    I think you mean Jason Richardson.

    VC is not consistent in driving to the basket and it showed last night. After getting the non-call he came back and shot a jumper. No consistency in driving=no consistency in getting calls
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">I think you mean Jason Richardson.

    VC is not consistent in driving to the basket and it showed last night. After getting the non-call he came back and shot a jumper. No consistency in driving=no consistency in getting calls</div>

    You are very correct in that case. Even Leo Rautins said so
     
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    Court Vision is correct.... he doesn't draw attention to the Ref's for getting those calls.. sure he holds the ball long enough but he's not doing anything else to draw fouls from previous plays/quarters etc. He needs to learn from Paul Pierce on how to draw fouls whenever you feel like shooting free throws.
     

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