Vince Carter not getting enough Respect?

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  1. Streetball2k5

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    its not important to the players. but if you want attraction and fan attention then you have to have vince out there. He ALWAYS pleases the crowd in the ASG lol, look at Kobe, laying it in on a clear break.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Streetball2k3:</div><div class="quote_post">its not important to the players. but if you want attraction and fan attention then you have to have vince out there. He ALWAYS pleases the crowd in the ASG lol, look at Kobe, laying it in on a clear break.</div>

    Kobe has a bum shoulder and just got stitches removed from his hand...last thing he needs is another trip to the injured list and a Vince Carter-esque injury reputation...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe has a bum shoulder and just got stitches removed from his hand...last thing he needs is another trip to the injured list and a Vince Carter-esque injury reputation...</div>

    Kobe already displayed a pretty decent dunk before that open trip so that cant be the reason.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting lunetik4raps:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe already displayed a pretty decent dunk before that open trip so that cant be the reason.</div>

    Nah man, that's definelty the reason...the Los Angeles Times even mentioned it in their article about ticket prices....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Nah man, that's definelty the reason...the Los Angeles Times even mentioned it in their article about ticket prices....</div>

    So why would he pass up a dunk on an open trip but perform a dunk earlier among players. :
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting lunetik4raps:</div><div class="quote_post">So why would he pass up a dunk on an open trip but perform a dunk earlier among players. :</div>

    Because you don't always think when you play, rather you react to what's natural...he saw the hoop and did what he has always done throughout his career without thinking twice....when he was on a breakaway by himself, that's when there's time twice about what' you're doing...

    Why am i even explaining this...it isn't relevant to anything [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Us fans were just frusterated that we coulden't see our only player repping Toronto for more than 16 minutes... He was starting Small Forward wasn't he? Look at the other East starters minutes.

    AI- 23 minutes
    T-Mac- 23 minutes
    Jermaine O'Neill- 28 minutes
    Ben Wallace- 23 minutes

    Bench
    K-Mart- 23 minutes
    Jason Kidd- 22 minutes..... you get the point.

    I woulden't be complaining if Vince played at least 23 minutes... Oh well, too late. Raptor fans just have to hope Rick Carlisle won't be Head Coach for the Eastern Conference next year.
     
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    Ya, I agree with you guys that vince should gotten more playing time in the all star game, but I think t-mac have a better clutch time than carter. The bottom line is that the Western conference won [​IMG].
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting intrepid1983:</div><div class="quote_post">3 Years ago Carter was the most spectacular player in the league, beating everyone. Now Vince is just as a regular player like Iverson and McGrady, so even though he's not way better than them, he's about equal.. i dont get it, im sure if Carter took the last shot and missed, it'd be all over the papers and everyone would bash carter. If McGrady misses, ppl would say "oh well". MJ was never consistent either, only when it counts he will be. Yes i do know what clutch means, makin the shot when it counts the most say in the last couple seconds before the game is over. Why would you want Tmac to take the shot at the end? He may be consistent but definitely not clutch. Clutch should account for a teams winning at least once in a while, but the Magic are plain awful.</div>

    Three years ago Vince didn't even make the all NBA First team, how would that make him close to the most spectacular player in the league? Iverson and McGrady aren't "regular" players, they're great players. Vince is not on there level and hasn't even been remotely close for three years. What he did in the past has no significance now at all, so you should leave that out of your argument. Why would I want Tmac to take the shot instead of Vince? Mainly because hes a better shooter, hes better at getting to the free throw line, and hes an overall better scorer.

    Clutch isn't exactly the last shot in the game, its stepping up when your team needs you, mainly in the fourth quarter. If you've watched every Raptor game this season you'd understand that Vince doesn't always do it, he constantly forces up shots, which is inexcusable for someone with his athleticism. He has totally whiped out his ability to get to the line; something he rarley does.

    This arguement started because Carlisle didn't put Vince in the game, well he did it for many reasons, one, hes not clutch, and two, he plays crappy defense. What good are clutch performances if you can't defend on the other end? For some reason you've got it stuck in your head that Vince is close to McGrady and Iverson's level, you and many others also claim that Carlisle is "stupid" and "doesn't know basketball", does it ever occur to you that an NBA coach knows a hell of a lot more than you do? Also you can't forget the job hes done with the Pacers so far this season, so for you to call him stupid is ridiculous, and biased.
     
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    It's simple! Carlisle wanted to win the game, and have the best team on the floor!!!(Carter is a SHOW player, not a win games player!!!) And the reserves , that you are claiming about, got more playing time, because in the last All-Star Game, the reserves Didn't get Any. [​IMG]

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting v_carter15:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow...i'm a little confused here. Wait, not confused....EXTREMELY PISSED that Vince hardly got any playing time in the all-star game. Why? Why did that happen? He had a spectacular first quarter, then from there on saw almost NO action for the rest of the game. He didn't look tired or hurt at all on the bench. So WHAT THE<font color="red">edit</font> was going through Carlisle's thick skull???? I as a Torontonian and dedicated Raptor fan was very concerned by this perdicament because the last time i checked...the leading vote getter for the past how many seasons and starter on the East team should be given MUCH more playing time than only 16 minutes. 4 reserves received more playing time than him and one received the same. By looking at the 1st quarter, i really thought he had a good shot at getting the MVP, but for some reason, he is completely shut out of having any hope to achieve that. [​IMG]

    Please feel free to share opinions.

    <font color="red">Never, ever come into my forum and post like this again. I suggest you read the guidelines, stop the profanity.</font></div>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting K-Nothin 2:</div><div class="quote_post">It's simple! Carlisle wanted to win the game, and have the best team on the floor!!!(Carter is a SHOW player, not a win games player!!!) And the reserves , that you are claiming about, got more playing time, because in the last All-Star Game, the reserves Didn't get Any. [​IMG]</div>

    Carter is a SHOW player? Not a win games player?

    I think he deserves a little more than just being labelled a show player...
     
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    You All Talk S**T!!!
    RESPECT THE GAME NOT THE FAME!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting K-Nothin 2:</div><div class="quote_post">It's simple! Carlisle wanted to win the game, and have the best team on the floor!!!(Carter is a SHOW player, not a win games player!!!) And the reserves , that you are claiming about, got more playing time, because in the last All-Star Game, the reserves Didn't get Any. [​IMG]</div>
    Carter is the raptors franchise! You cant call him not a win games player, He wins 50% of the raptors games!
     
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    I'm one of the few that think that Vince getting less playing time in the All-star game is a good thing. This will keep him motivated for the rest of the season, and everyone knows a Vince Carter on a mission is one hell of a dangerous VC. Screw Ron Artest, Let people think that he's the 2nd best SF in the NBA. Everyone knows that Vince 100 % healthy would own Artest 100 % healthy, any day of the week. Even if Vince is a soft mama's boy [​IMG]
     
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    But paul pierce suks n so does his team
     
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    ^ Riiiiiiiiite....... [​IMG]
    Paul Pierce is a much better player than Carter period
     

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