LOL, thanks for the PM. Nice to see someone loves to argue as much as I do <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Crossover:</div><div class="quote_post">More of those cuts come off of screens and relaxed defense, not the double teams.</div> Once again you are proving my point. It isn't relaxed defense, it is the fact that people are focusing on AI. It makes it a lot easier for guys like Snow and McKie to cut when there isn't anybody on them. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I do agree, he's still a point guard at heart, but yet, at the same time, he's not a point guard.</div> ? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And of course, it is funny to compare Iverson and Marbury as I did, but it really depends on which one shows up each night. </div> In multiple threads I have seen people say that Marbury has changed since being in NY. That is ridiculous. He has been a selfish player for hundreds of games, yet people are saying that he has changed based on 15 games in NY? Absurd.
Of course he hasn't changed, but I think he might be getting better. Very slowly, but surely. As for the point guard comment, I'm saying I agree that he's a point guard at heart, just not on paper. And back to Iverson and the 76ers... Snow isn't making his shots, anymore - even the easy ones. He wants out of Philadelphia, and has no motivation. McKie is rather inconsistent, as well. He hits sometimes, but... yeah... But yes, having a superstar to attract extra defenders does help. Of course, I'm mostly referring to an Iverson on the perimeter. When he's slashing, everyone is going to be there, but when he's on the arc throwing alleys to Dalembert, those aren't assists caused by doubles on him. That's just the other team's Center and Power Forward not paying any damn attention. And you're welcome for the PM. I forgot who it was, but someone told me you're also a "smartass black guy," so we had to argue.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And you're welcome for the PM. I forgot who it was, but someone told me you're also a "smartass black guy," so we had to argue.</div> LOL, that was my homie Purehoops. Honestly, this argument is starting to be more of a game than a real discussion. Let's wait for some other comments before we continue.
I agree with A.I. his team isnt playing up to their potential...he is having to try to do it all and one person cant win ball games! and for those of you who say he shoots too much i disagree....imean yeah he shoots a lot but when no one else on the team is scoring someone has to try to make something happen!
AI lost his heart? I can't even begin to respond to that, but I'll leave you with these facts: AI is the best passing SG in the league, averaging 6.2 per game. Out of all guards in the league, regardless of amount of games they have played, he ranks #9 overall. All guards ahead of him play the point, and he's ahead of many quality point guards such as Damon Stoudamire, Gary Payton, Steve Francis, Nick Van Exel, Jeff McInnis, Tony Parker and Mike Bibby. AI is currently #1 in steals this year averaging 2.5 per game. He's been a staple in the top 5 since the 97/98 season and has led the league in steals the last 3 yrs in a row. AI has also been one of the top scorers in the league for the past few years as well. He's won the scoring championship 3 of his 7 years in the league and is on his way to winning his 4th in this, his 8th year in the league. All this at 6ft 165lbs soaking wet. That's heart.
I don't think the Sixers are playing without "heart." They all have love for the game, but chemistry is what is killing us. We have had so many injuries with our players this season, from the likes of Amal McCaskill to Iverson, and we haven't played together as a team in a while. We are starting to get our guys back, and if we pull together, we can make the playoffs. Many of you guys are missing the point. The problem to Allen's low shooting percentage is that he takes low quality shots, because he is constantly double-teamed, and he plays the shooting guard position with the body of a point guard. Many shooting guards have an advantage over him, height wise. When's the last time you've seen him take a normal jump shot. I know I haven't, not in a long time, he is not a Kobe type player, that can just run down the court spot up and shoot. He has to create space for himself first, and many times he can't, thus is why his shooting percentage is bad.
Iverson shouldnt be complaining everyone knows that he is the leader of the Sixers, so a leader is someone who dont blames his team on losing, and takes loss as gracefully as winning a ball game
trailblazer,did you know that AI a sg averages more assist then the blazers pg "mightymouse" so that says something
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheHitman:</div><div class="quote_post">Iverson shouldnt be complaining everyone knows that he is the leader of the Sixers, so a leader is someone who dont blames his team on losing, and takes loss as gracefully as winning a ball game</div>a leader is also someone who see's when his guys are slipping and let's em know, speaks up and motivates them to do better. That's what he did and that's what they did. Mission accomplished.
<font face="arial"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheHitman:</div><div class="quote_post">Iverson shouldnt be complaining everyone knows that he is the leader of the Sixers, so a leader is someone who dont blames his team on losing, and takes loss as gracefully as winning a ball game</div> No, a leader does not take a loss as gracefully as winning a game. Look at MJ you think he went off court cheering and happly when he loss? HELL NAH. A Leader is someone who does everything he can to help the team. In this case Iverson is letting the team know that they aren't playing their hearts out. There are many things to prove this. A leader does not take a loss gracefully, I don't know how you can say that. Its like saying I'm happy to lose? No man, no one wants to lose or is happy that they lose. And especially where the Sixers are, I would be heated too. :biggrin2: <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIFan:</div><div class="quote_post">a leader is also someone who see's when his guys are slipping and let's em know, speaks up and motivates them to do better. That's what he did and that's what they did. Mission accomplished.</div> Mission accomplished? No nothing is accomplished. One game against the Lakers and we win is an accomplished mission? No. Our mission is to get into a great play-off spot right now and stack up as many wins as possible. Make some possible transactions to help the team. Not beat one team.</font>
I still cant believe people think AI is selfish. Looks he's averaging 28 points and MANAGES to dish out 6 assists. Yeah I know he getting doubled team and what not. But do you watch the games. Do you see when he on a fast break he always try to make the extra pass instead os scoring. If he wasnt averaging all those assists he would be easilt average like 32 points, which still wouldnt make a difference. As for the FG% issue. Simple he had no one to pass it too. So it was only normal if he jack up some shots. Then when Big Dogg came along, he will still struggling due to his injury. But in the last 5 games his FG% gone up a little. When he cam back from his injury his first 10 games FG% was about 33%. His season average was about 36%. But now he shooting about 40%. Simply he just got his shooting rythm back. For example: Look back at the LA and TWolves game. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">No, a leader does not take a loss as gracefully as winning a game. Look at MJ you think he went off court cheering and happly when he loss? HELL NAH. A Leader is someone who does everything he can to help the team. In this case Iverson is letting the team know that they aren't playing their hearts out. There are many things to prove this.</div> I agree. A leader can only do so much. When you have a leader dropping 30 points a night and dishing out passes and the other players can do anything. Its only right for the leader to speak up. In other words your basiaclly if AI drops 100 points every night and still losses, its his fault. Which makes no sense since the leader carries the offensive load, but not ALL of it, because the team has to step up and do their part.
