Bulls-Pistons Rumor

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  1. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    yeah, i just heard this... i do it.
     
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    I think the Pistons are stupid to do this...Williamson is better than Fizer and has a more stable career...sura is just as good and effective as Gill...what would be the point of this? you're trading a veteran post scorer who is effective off the bench and a young versatile guard for an unproven undersized forward and an aging veteran...doesnt make sense to me...
     
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    perhaps it doesnt make sence to you but it does to the Pistons. I would do it. Its a great trade for both teams
     
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    great trade? yeah, thanks for your supporting argument.

    it's a stupid trade. it'll be a trade just for the sake of trading. corliss williamson is more valuable to that team than sorry marcus fizer and kendall gill. a quality role player. i'd love to see him on the lakers.

    i don't have confidence this deal will get done. the pistons squad as it is should just stay in tact. they have everything they need. a quality pg, sg, big men, coach, defense, and a bench.
     
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    Well maybe because they wanted to free up some space. I'm not that much of a Detroit follower so I duno how much Corliss is worth. Maybe they feel he can be released since they have a young guy in Darko.
     
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    darko is worthless.


    Corliss Williamson has $4,500,000 six year contract which totals $31,500,000 that lasts through 2006-07.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting theclown1:</div><div class="quote_post">perhaps it doesnt make sence to you but it does to the Pistons. I would do it. Its a great trade for both teams</div>

    lol! nice post, great job in using substance to support your post.

    i dont see the point in this trade either...bobby and corliss doesnt clear up that much cap space, and they are definitely NOT comming out on top with this deal. fizer is essentially useless, and gill is older then old. i cant make sense of this trade. its harly a great trade for the pistons.
     
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    well, apparently pistons don't think Darko is worthless and are willing to trade for enabiling them to free up space to keep him... especially Sura's contract.
     
  11. Mez

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting BBall Guru:</div><div class="quote_post">well, apparently pistons don't think Darko is worthless and are willing to trade for enabiling them to free up space to keep him... especially Sura's contract.</div>

    No doubt on that. From day one they said that he won't be getting much time and they probably won't use him much. I personally never liked what they were doing in trying to "develop" a player who will possibly be a future great like Dirk, but why pass up on a sure thing like Carmelo? Even if Darko does turn out to be something special I'd question the move because by the time he gets himself where he is expected Carmelo will probably be a all-star starter.

    EDIT: Scratch the starter part, he'll be an All-Star reserve. Forgot that the west has Garnett and Duncan lol
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting BBall Guru:</div><div class="quote_post">well, apparently pistons don't think Darko is worthless and are willing to trade for enabiling them to free up space to keep him... especially Sura's contract.</div>

    the pistons are stupid. how could you not take carmelo anthony, who is proven, and the boy can play. we all are witnessing what he has been doing this season.

    they are the same retards who dumbed carlisle for some reason.. to pick up larry brown, who won't last too long w/ that franchise cause he rotates all the freaking time. i don't recall him winning a championship in my lifetime.

    so what? the piston's don't give two hoots about bobby sura. no team has.. giving up bobby sura is the least of worries for the pistons.

    granted.. w/ or w/o anthony.. the pistons are still a fine team.. but for a team that needs a bit more offense.. he would've fit in so well.. and everyone got so excited about tayshaun prince in last years playoffs and thought he'd be this great starter in the nba.. now.. prince has played good this season, but, imo, he's a fantastic role player.. but in comparison to carmelo, he's nothing.

    1- billups
    2- hamilton
    3- carmelo
    4- okur
    5- wallace

    not too shabby.
     
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    ^ Kinda repeated what I said, but yeah..lol.. That lineup with Carmelo made so much sense, I couldn't believe the Pistons wanted Darko so bad. Sure things ( to be a future all-star) > Projects ( players with potential to be a superstar ) any day in my mind.
     
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    Oh great not again, the "why didn't Pistons take Melo crap" put it this way, Pistons are in no rush to win championships, young team thats already contending for the eastern conference title. Carmelo has done very well in Denver but really as much as you think he is what Pistons need, he isn't.

    Put it this way, in this league you need a great post game to win a championship. Thats what Joe Dumars is depending on, you don't pass up a 7'1 big man with big time expected skills.

    If you people actually checked out the article you would know why the Pistons would consider doing this trade, to help clear cap room for Memo Okur who is an unrestricted free-agent at the end of the season. Everyone in Detroit is very high on him and can't afford to see him leave.

    both Fizer and Gill are FA's at the end of the season, which is why It would be a trade that help re-sign Okur.

    However Dumars said this trade will not happen.
     
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    what do you mean no rush? isn't everybody in a rush? doesn't everyone want to win a nba title asap? do you want the pistons to keep waiting for a nba title? no. they're making a move now, they've been making a move for the past some odd years.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting okaforever:</div><div class="quote_post">the pistons are stupid. how could you not take carmelo anthony, who is proven, and the boy can play. we all are witnessing what he has been doing this season.

    they are the same retards who dumbed carlisle for some reason.. to pick up larry brown, who won't last too long w/ that franchise cause he rotates all the freaking time. i don't recall him winning a championship in my lifetime.

    so what? the piston's don't give two hoots about bobby sura. no team has.. giving up bobby sura is the least of worries for the pistons.

    granted.. w/ or w/o anthony.. the pistons are still a fine team.. but for a team that needs a bit more offense.. he would've fit in so well.. and everyone got so excited about tayshaun prince in last years playoffs and thought he'd be this great starter in the nba.. now.. prince has played good this season, but, imo, he's a fantastic role player.. but in comparison to carmelo, he's nothing.

    1- billups
    2- hamilton
    3- carmelo
    4- okur
    5- wallace

    not too shabby.</div>

    right now thats a decent line up...but give darko a few years. remember everyone was saying jermaine who? in his first couple years in the league. now look at him, if the season ended today he'd prolly be the mvp. darko is a bit of a project, everyone has already given up on him halfway through his first season. joe has an eye for talent...give him a couple years before you give up
     
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    Fizer is a bust...Williamson is good...bad trade!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">right now thats a decent line up...but give darko a few years. remember everyone was saying jermaine who? in his first couple years in the league. now look at him, if the season ended today he'd prolly be the mvp. darko is a bit of a project, everyone has already given up on him halfway through his first season. joe has an eye for talent...give him a couple years before you give up</div>

    No one thinks hes a bust or has given up on him, we just think a project for the future wasn't worth it to pass up a sure thing and a future all-star. He's already made talk about himself making the team this year, and although he didn't many think he should have. I personally didnt, but I expect him there next season. Darko probably won't be ready until his 4th or 5th season to dominate, kind of like Dirk and O'neal did.
     
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    to be honest, i think he'll wind up being a bust. i wasn't on his side from the get go.
     
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    well i think the bulls need a trade... although im not entirely fond of letting gill and fizer go,i just like how great the bulls play after a trade... everyother game should be a trade and the bulls could be a .500 team... yup!
     

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