Rasheed Wallace Traded For Abdur-Rahim And Ratliff

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  1. Trail_Blazer76

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting twolvefan11:</div><div class="quote_post">I know, if I was a Blazers fan, I would be estatic!</div>
    Why? None of us are happy, have you read our comments?

    Now we will probably have to make Dale Davis a starter again. Sheed could guard all of the west's center but 1, and now he is gone. Our starting lineup was doing so well, and now we have to change it again.

    Besides, I am still trying to figure out why people are so impressed with 'Reef's stats. Who was he going up against? Worst case scenario it was JO, but can he put up 20-9 against western pfs? I doubt it, and I am still very skeptical about this trade.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Why? None of us are happy, have you read our comments?</div>

    I know that you guys aren't happy, but I'm saying I would be. I have already stated why in the post.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Now we will probably have to make Dale Davis a starter again. Sheed could guard all of the west's center but 1, and now he is gone. Our starting lineup was doing so well, and now we have to change it again.</div>

    Ratliff is very good at defense, I don't know why you think lowly of him. He is a great defensive threat, and he is a true center, something you needed.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Besides, I am still trying to figure out why people are so impressed with 'Reef's stats. Who was he going up against? Worst case scenario it was JO, but can he put up 20-9 against western pfs? I doubt it, and I am still very skeptical about this trade.</div>

    20 and 9 is good in any conference. And he doesn't have to score a lot now, with Randolph there. They should play good together, I just don't see why you don't like this trade.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting twolvefan11:</div><div class="quote_post">Ratliff is very good at defense, I don't know why you think lowly of him. He is a great defensive threat, and he is a true center, something you needed.</div>
    I don't think lowly of him, I didn't even mention his name. I just think higher of Sheed and he was gelling in the new lineup.

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    20 and 9 is good in any conference. And he doesn't have to score a lot now, with Randolph there. They should play good together, I just don't see why you don't like this trade.
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    I never said that those weren't good stats, but he won't be able to continue them in the west. We still need him to put up at least 17 ppg to make up for Sheed. If you think about it, he needs to do better than Sheed to prove that it was a good trade for us.
     
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    I think that DMiles will get delegated to the bench now. Three huge trades for Portland this season, and in all of them, the Blazers got the better end of the deal. Derek Anderson will probably get to shine for the rest of the season, but the enormous frontcourt will outshine him. Man.
     
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    Shareef puts up better stats against the big time players than he does in the east believe it or not. Has had big time double doubles against Duncan,Garnett and Dirk,Jamison,Walker e.t.c all in the past two weeks.

    There is no doubt he will continue to put up very good numbers. Dale Davis will not start, can't see your thinking behind that.

    Put it this way Blazer fans, you got way more than you should of got for Wallace.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Dale Davis will not start, can't see your thinking behind that.</div>
    Because I would never take a center straight out of the east and automatically start them on a western squad. You might be right though, but only because of the fact that Cheeks and Davis had a run-in earlier this year.
     
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    Dale Davis is getting worse, becoming a guy who can give a team just 10-15 minutes a game. Theo Ratliff will be your starting center and will not only give you more in terms of scoring and rebounding than DD would but will bring a shot blocker which is what you need considering Randolph's defensive skills.

    I honestly don't see a better deal for Portland that this, surely you would't of liked Kurt Thomas and Keith Van Horn instead?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">I honestly don't see a better deal for Portland that this, surely you would't of liked Kurt Thomas and Keith Van Horn instead?</div>
    Hell no. And I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't happy to have SAR. But I also would have like to see Sheed end up in a better place, as irrelevant as that might seem. I would have loved him in Philly, but I wouldn't really want big dog on the blazers. I would have also liked him on the Knicks, but you and I both know that KVH is a cancer.
     
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    KVH isn't a cancer...he's just not there in any shape or form.
     
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    I think Rasheed brought more than his stats really.. Thats why I am upset hes gone.. This is part of the business though.. Players get traded, and theres nothing you can do.. I'll still like Rasheed, but I won't like the Hawks.. Sure we are getting a HUGE advantage on this deal, considering that we are getting all the Hawks had.. Theo leads the league in Blocks, And he also pulls down a nice amount of rebounds.. SAR is nearing a Double Double in PPG and RPG.. That's amazing really.. Coming off the bench now for Randolph.. Like others said the front court is amazing.. Still the knowing of Rasheed being there is gone.. I hate to see him leave... Because he was my favorite player, and he is the reason I like the blazers.. Its going to be tough seeing him in a different Jersey.. But its going to happen.. Oh well..

    Still we DID get rob them Stat/Talent wise, considering SAR and Ratliff are better than Sheed put together.. Still there is no replacing Sheed in non-stat wise..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ANiMuS:</div><div class="quote_post">KVH isn't a cancer...he's just not there in any shape or form.</div>KVH's underacheiving spreads like a cancer, and his inability to show up for big games leaves his teammates irate (ask Kenyon).
     
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    oh man..there goes the blazers [​IMG] no more Sheed or Bonzi [​IMG] oh well...Damon Darius and Zach with the addition of SAR and Ratliff? obviously Blazers came up with the win...they could be some competition in the west now...maybe Sheed can end up in Memphis next season. [​IMG]
     
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    They have always been compition in the west lol how can you deny they never were?
     
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    heck no

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm speechless. Amazing trade by the Blazers acquiring a much needed shot blocker and getting Shareef to maintain the scoring Sheed brought to the Blazers. Trading one starter for two starters is a great trade off any day. The playoff picture just got a lot brighter for the Blazers, assuming 'Reef and Ratliff fit in.</div>
    that was so stupid of the blazers, i fill like shooting my self!
     
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    heck no

    <font color="Blue">undefined</font><div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm speechless. Amazing trade by the Blazers acquiring a much needed shot blocker and getting Shareef to maintain the scoring Sheed brought to the Blazers. Trading one starter for two starters is a great trade off any day. The playoff picture just got a lot brighter for the Blazers, assuming 'Reef and Ratliff fit in.</div>
    that was soooooo stupid of the blazers, i fill like shooting my self!!!
     
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    This is a chance to see what SAR can really do, and with Theo in the line up, Blazers might be better than before. Sheed is better than SAR one on one, but I think this was a deal to help the Blazers. Blazers now have a defensive monster and a top PF in the league. Did anyone know that SAR is one of the best FT shooters in the league? I'm surprised myself. He shoots 88%!!!
    Blazers now have a chance to work their way back into a play-off spot, SAR is a great addition. I guess my article a month ago wasn't that useless after all...

    Great trade for the Blazers...

    I agree with All Net, they got more than they should have.

    I hope the Sixers can somehow deal for Sheed...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">
    I'm am going to go and buy every color of Sheed Jersey tommorow.
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    I was in the mall today at this sports merchandise store called Sports Seasons and the manager was asking his employee about whether they had already dropped the price of the Rasheed Wallace jerseys.

    I got a current (no retro jerseys for me) Rasheed Wallace Nike Swingman road jersey for $34.99 ! [​IMG]

    I snagged it up and checked out, and it's perfect cause Sheed's number is 30 and I'll turn 30 on 2/14. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nikebasketball:</div><div class="quote_post">
    I was in the mall today at this sports merchandise store called Sports Seasons and the manager was asking his employee about whether they had already dropped the price of the Rasheed Wallace jerseys.

    I got a current (no retro jerseys for me) Rasheed Wallace Nike Swingman road jersey for $34.99 ! [​IMG]

    I snagged it up and checked out, and it's perfect cause Sheed's number is 30 and I'll turn 30 on 2/14. [​IMG]
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    Yeah I called just about every store in town today. I found the exact same jersey you are refering to for the same price. The guy said there are only 3 left so I will probably go and pick it up tommorow.
     
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    When does the site open?

    www.trailblazin.com

    If I can contribute to it in anyway let me know cause I'm still a big Blazers fan even though now I'm only only 3 hours away from seeing Sheed play.
     

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