<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Difference is bringing the guy up several times when he has nothing to do with the topic getting annoying from time to time, acting like he is some superstar gets annoying from time to time, but then again when you get started you won't be stopped.</div> all i ask is you point out the "several times" iv done this. i talk about him, in the context of the calibre of player he is. i dont say hes better then kidd, or tmac, or KG. YOU assume i think hes better then he is, thats your mistake. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">you guys really make posting on jbb a fun experience. all i was doing was conversing, i guess i havnt learned my lesson yet. </div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting lost_elephant:</div><div class="quote_post">great move for both teams. atlanta gets plenty of cap space at the end of the season, giving the new owners something to work with. </div> it will be interesting to see who will want to sign there. after so many experiments with so many different line ups, and throwing some fairly decent line ups on the floor as well...and still not being able to produce a half decent season...i wonder who's gonna want to play there
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">all i ask is you point out the "several times" iv done this. i talk about him, in the context of the calibre of player he is. i dont say hes better then kidd, or tmac, or KG. YOU assume i think hes better then he is, thats your mistake.</div> Wasn't directly talking about you when I made my post, but to get a reaction from me because of what I have said when mentioned Vince is injury prone was asking to start something here, which you did. It really isn't about who you say he is better than but the way you react when posters say something you don't agree with when talking about Vince. It's like an old age pensioner when you don't give her the right change at the corner shop, you seem to have a fit. Now thats sorted Care to keep this thread on topic?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Wasn't directly talking about you when I made my post, but to get a reaction from me because of what I have said when mentioned Vince is injury prone was asking to start something here, which you did. It really isn't about who you say he is better than but the way you react when posters say something you don't agree with when talking about Vince. It's like an old age pensioner when you don't give her the right change at the corner shop, you seem to have a fit. Now thats sorted Care to keep this thread on topic?</div> its funny...you always seem to see things in a confrontational way. i wasnt looking to get a "reaction" from you, i was just TRYING to talk ball...thats what i come here for. oddly enough, i come for the discussion, and end up defending myself, my knowledge on ball, and side-stepping surley remarks. to top it off...its 90% from moderators. again...you see me having fits? truth of the matter is i couldnt be any calmer...now or anytime, but for some reason you see it as some kind of a confrontation. is there something wrong with disagreeing with a mod? apparently so. i remind you of an old age pensioner getting screwed for change? how ironic, you remind me of an old man in the rocking chair that likes to sit back and complain.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">its funny...you always seem to see things in a confrontational way. i wasnt looking to get a "reaction" from you, i was just TRYING to talk ball...thats what i come here for. oddly enough, i come for the discussion, and end up defending myself, my knowledge on ball, and side-stepping surley remarks. to top it off...its 90% from moderators. </div> I think you will find ALOT of people come here for a discussion, wether they are sucessful at it is another story. You were trying to talk ball? good, keep doing that.Therefore people will keep responsing. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">again...you see me having fits? truth of the matter is i couldnt be any calmer...now or anytime, but for some reason you see it as some kind of a confrontation. is there something wrong with disagreeing with a mod? apparently so. i remind you of an old age pensioner getting screwed for change? how ironic, you remind me of an old man in the rocking chair that likes to sit back and complain.</div> You are clearly confused, there is a difference from complaining and being in a basketball debate daily. The last thing I ever do is moan and complain on this board, I like to screw with people's minds and basically out do them in terms of basketball talk. There is a big difference. Also I must add, don't take the "mod" label too seriously, if you are here to talk basketball and debate about any topic, bringing up your status is kind of pointless.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post"> You are clearly confused, there is a difference from complaining and being in a basketball debate daily. The last thing I ever do is moan and complain on this board, I like to screw with people's minds and basically out do them in terms of basketball talk. There is a big difference.</div> yea...im so confused, thats what happens with us pensioners. sorry sunny, your a little confused too, i dont have any fits. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Also I must add, don't take the "mod" label too seriously, if you are here to talk basketball and debate about any topic, bringing up your status is kind of pointless.</div> LOL!!! trust me, i dont take the mod label seriously at all. simple observation, is that when i disagree with anyone whos not a mod, it results in a simple conversation. when i disagree with certain mods, i get insulted. you'd think that mods would have the best interests of the board in mind, but i see it happening on a daily basis with other posters...not exactly helping the site id imagine.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">yea...im so confused, thats what happens with us pensioners. sorry sunny, your a little confused too, i dont have any fits.</div> You clearly are confused If you can't tell the difference between debating and complaining. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> LOL!!! trust me, i dont take the mod label seriously at all. simple observation, is that when i disagree with anyone whos not a mod, it results in a simple conversation. when i disagree with certain mods, i get insulted. you'd think that mods would have the best interests of the board in mind, but i see it happening on a daily basis with other posters...not exactly helping the site id imagine.</div> I don't see any mods insulting you here, if It was bad enough there would of been something said. Banter and insults along with stating facts are all different.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">You clearly are confused If you can't tell the difference between debating and complaining.</div> same way you apparently cant see the difference between debating and having a fit <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> I don't see any mods insulting you here, if It was bad enough there would of been something said. Banter and insults along with stating facts are all different.</div> well, i wasnt referring to this thread in particular with the insults...but being compared to an old lady isnt exactly flattering or complimentary now is it? either way, its always condescending tone with you towards me...never simple conversation. it really hurts my feelings
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> same way you apparently cant see the difference between debating and having a fit </div> Nah not really, my comment was to basically try and compare the situation and get a laugh in at the same time. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> well, i wasnt referring to this thread in particular with the insults...but being compared to an old lady isnt exactly flattering or complimentary now is it? either way, its always condescending tone with you towards me...never simple conversation. it really hurts my feelings </div> It wasn't meant to be taken seriously nor was it an insult, more of a laugh to go with the points we were each making. The tone between you and me is no different to anyone else. I try and get my points across in a serious by at the same time a humous manor. You should know that by now No disrespect is ever intended. I'm done with this Here are some quotes from the Hawks on the trade <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">?(Involving) Shareef is such a tough deal because he?s such a good guy, he is everything you want in a player,? said Knight. ?Unfortunately in the situation we?re in, we are financially strapped. This provides us some immediate flexibility at the end of the season, so what we?ve done is accelerate our rebuilding process. ?We haven?t won the games we should have and when you couple that with the high payroll we would have had next season, it (the deal) gives us the ability to begin our rebuilding process. I can?t emphasize enough how tough this trade was for me personally, especially with Shareef. ?It?s a tough situation, he?s the player making the most money and he?s the player everybody wants. He?s our best player and I have to do what?s best for the organization, and that supercedes what?s best for me.? </div> More Details
wow wow i like the hawks move, basically they're getting sheed to let him go this summer... letting him go will generate big cap room that may land Kobe, after all the hawks fans are not like the sixers, they're fond of Kobe... his last visit to the Phillips Arena last season, after he drained a three pointer, the fans were chanting his name for the season MVP and every one of the fans seemed to cheer for him... now, that's sth that Kobe has gotta consider in the summer.....
I was quite happy for the Blazers for this trade, it'll really get you on your feet. SAR is a hard working scorer and awesome boarder, Ratliff, well he doesn't lead in Blocks for nothing. It's always nice to get a great deal for both good offense and defense in the same deal. I'm sad to see Sheed go though, he began to change, like KJ said though, he won't be a Hawk for long.
Wow I woke up and heard this on ESPN. I wasn't really suprised but it wasn't the first thing I thought I'd hear in the morning, lol.
Great deal by both team. I really like Shreef, he is one of the most underrated players. He never complains, just goes to work and gets a good 18 10 every night. That's why I like it for Portland. I almost forgot to mention a great shot blocking center in Theo. I like if from Atlanta, because they clear $23 million of salary cap room. They can get some good players. This season is obviously a waste, so they are going to let the younger guys get more minutes now. Now if only they got a pick in return also. Great deal. btw, whoever said about dealing with the Twolves, Juwan is packing his bags right now for you.
Very nice trade for the Blazers! They get someone who can play both F positions and they get a legit Center who can block those shots. A frontline with Zach, Reef and Ratliff is scary even in the West.
The Blazers did very well in this deal, I'm somewhat surprised that the Hawks moved good character guys like Abdur-Rahim and Ratliff for a guy like Wallace. Assuming they don't resign him, this deal will help them out a lot with their cap, but I still don't like it for Atlanta. The Blazers did a tremendous job in landing Rahim and Ratliff, and I believe have put themselves right back in the mix in the western conference. Great deal for the Blazers.
I don't like this trade for Portland. I understand Atlanta's move because they want to get rid of cap space but Portland has not really addressed any issues with their team. To make a trade after a team was finding their niche is just going to mix things up again for Maurice Cheeks. The Blazers acquired Abdur rahim but Randolph plays that position. They picked up Ratliff who dominated the EASTERN CONFERENCE in blocks but they have a reliable Dale Davis in the middle. Now they have Darius Miles at 2? Sorry but I thought 2 guards are supposed to be able to shoot. Are they just trying to overcrowd their roster with talent again? I wonder how Zach Randolph feels about this trade? Time will tell, but as of right now this trade looks pretty bad.
Whoa, this trade was huge. I guess nobody had predicted that Atlanta will be the ones to get Rasheed huh? Seems like they've given up all their hope for this season. Rasheed will probably never get used to the losing and leave this offseason, so expect ATL to be major players in the free agent market in the offseason. Who's going next? Jason Terry? From the Blazers point of view, I think they brought in SAR and Ratliff to get back into the playoff picture. This trade was very similar to the New York/Phoenix one. One team gets to clear a bunch of cap room and the other gets the quality players to get back to playoff contention. What a new look Blazers it is. Who'll go next, Mighty Mouse?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't like this trade for Portland. I understand Atlanta's move because they want to get rid of cap space but Portland has not really addressed any issues with their team. To make a trade after a team was finding their niche is just going to mix things up again for Maurice Cheeks. The Blazers acquired Abdur rahim but Randolph plays that position. They picked up Ratliff who dominated the EASTERN CONFERENCE in blocks but they have a reliable Dale Davis in the middle. Now they have Darius Miles at 2? Sorry but I thought 2 guards are supposed to be able to shoot. Are they just trying to overcrowd their roster with talent again? I wonder how Zach Randolph feels about this trade? Time will tell, but as of right now this trade looks pretty bad.</div> I think Reef will be able to move to the three like Wallace had, it's not his natural position, but he's a good enough athlete that I think it could work. D Miles is now the sixth man, make no mistake about that, Derek Anderson will be the starting SG. I like this lineup for Portland, with Stoudamire and Anderson in the backcourt, and Abdur-Rahim, Randolph and Ratliff up front. They also now have more depth with Davis and Miles coming off the bench.
From the Hakws' point of view, this makes sense as well. This trade will work for them IF they let Wallace and Person leave after the season. That will clear up a lot of space and they can go after someone like Kobe. Although they did lose their Center but playoffs are out of reach anyway. As for the Blazers, Shareef will compensate Zach. He can play the SF position like Sheed.
