The Fizer deal is a ripoff.. But it gets lue off our hands.. I hope the Snow deal goes through.. I like it just for that reason, and we rid Howard off.. I dont like loosing hunter though..
lol this is b/s ...we traded Hunter instead of Declerq?????????????? lmao...I dont care if Lue is gone..I love him and he is better than Rod(cuz of age) and Gaines..but oh well..I would love Rod to leave instead of him...but since we get snow is alright..this sux just look at this... AltorSupport: AT ALL Yming2k4: whats the bad thing? Yming2k4: its just a trade that isnt gonig to help Magic Yming2k4: ohhh Yming2k4: yea, you a Magic fan lol that should say it all. EDIT: Here is a link...it says T-Lue and Giricek for fizer...and also mentions Utah Giricek for Arroyo or Collins... here is the link I hope we could get arroyo..and also why 2 players for fizer? I dont know im so confused and is late lol ill think more tomorrow...
Grant, no way. He'd provide you with size and defense that TMac already offers. He can't even do it properly because of age. They'd never trade anyone else they have but if you try to do so, go for Eddie Jones or Caron Butler. They are awesome on defense, stealing naturally.
I think ive got the trade now. <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1"><font color="#000000">Marcus Fizer</font></font></font> <div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1"><font color="#000000">$3,726,994</font></font></font></div> <div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1"><font color="#009900">$4,915,905</font></font></font></div> Hes getting Three Million.. and next year he will make 4, close to 5.. I guess this was the best player that they had that his contract is up soon with.. <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1"><font color="#000000">Tyronn Lue</font></font></font> <div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1">$1,500,000</font></font></div> <div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1">$1,650,000</font></font></div> Lues making.. 1.5 and 1.65 this year and next year.. And then his contract is up... <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1"><font color="#000000">Gordan Giricek</font></font></font> <div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1">$1,540,000</font></font></div> Giriceks contract is up after this year which hes getting 1.5. For one I dont understand WHY the magic would do this trade if they are rebuilding.. Keep Gordan.. and let him walk after the season.. Deal Lue and Howard for Fizer and Gill.. This way.. We get rid of Howards long and crazy contract.. and only take on the two year 4 mill contract of Fizers.. and we get some cap space by getting a guy thats done after this year..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting franchise3:</div><div class="quote_post">Both these trades will go down? The Fizer one doesnt' sound good, but the Snow one can help the Magic big time.</div> Definitely, him or Mobley would add so much defense to your team. I think you should go after Caron Butler if you can. He provides excellent defense as well a big man presence.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Str8 Ballin Boy:</div><div class="quote_post">A quote from a Realgm poster: "The so-called deal between Orlando and Chicago has gone down, but won't be officially announced till either Monday or Tuesday. The reason is a deal can't officially be announced over the weekend. This was heard by me while driving home on ESPN radio by a report from Chicago. It has the Bulls sending Fizer to Orlando, and the Magic sending Giricek,Ty Lue and Shammond Williams to the Bulls. The supposedly a deal with the Sixers would send Juwan Howard and Steven Hunter to Philly for Eric Snow,John Salmons AND McCaskill. No Rod Strickland in this deal according to the radio. It also said that a draft pick might be involved in going to Philly. But they didn't specify. Didn't we get a 2nd rounder from them recently in the Monty Williams deal ? Maybe this deal..( If you believe the report )..will clarify that pick we received from them, who knows." What do you think? Snow/Strickland/Gaines T-Mac/Bogans/Salmons Bogans/Fizer Gooden/Fizer Pachulia/McCaskill/DeClercq</div> Wow, the Magic must REALLY want to dump Giricek badly, I think that's a hasty decision on their part. Anyway, WTH is Philly doing? I can't believe they're going to trade two of their top three backcourt players for another PF. Has Kenny Thomas fallen out of favor in Sixer-ville? These deals all sound kind of far-fetched, but I guess time will tell. If both of these deals go through the Magic end up losing Howard, Lue, Williams, Hunter and Giricek and getting Fizer, Snow, Salmons, McCaskill. Doesn't sound too bad for O-town.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting OgShowtime:</div><div class="quote_post">If both of these deals go through the Magic end up losing Howard, Lue, Williams, Hunter and Giricek and getting Fizer, Snow, Salmons, McCaskill. Doesn't sound too bad for O-town.</div> It sounds terrible..Talent wise its ok like you said.. .. But this isnt good for our cap.. We are getting so many more players with high prices and more years.. This isnt what we have to do... Snow's contract is huge.. Fizer gets near 5 million next year... Salmons has a decently big contract.. and Both Williams, and Giricek are up after this season.. not to mention Lues isnt even half of Fizers next year..
I'd do both those trades A.S.A.P S.Hunter is a bust, T.Lue's 15 min fame was his "shutdown" game against A.I in the Finals(hated when they signed him), S.Williams has been on 5 teams in 8 years(There's a reason for that). I say get rid of some or all of the aquistions the moron, John Gabriel, has made. Last good thing he did was steal K.Bogans. But I have a feeling he lucked into that deal. Build a team around T-Mac,Bogans,G.Hill(Hopefully), Gooden, Zaza, and Garrity. Add the #1 pick(Okafor), a veteran PG, some more size, actually WAIT(something J.Gabriel refuses to do) for the young players to develop(Gooden,Zaza,Bogans) and we'll have a contending team within 1-2 years.
I'm almost positive that Fizers deal is a team/player option. Either way Fizer won't want to play with the Tragic and the Magic won't want to keep him if we get Okafor in the draft. Snow's deal is very similar to Howard's, so we don't lose much there. Snow would be very good for the Magic. It also gets rid of alot of our pg's so that Gaines will get more playing time. I'm pissed off about the whole dealing Hunter instead of Declerq.
