Yao got hit by Shaq. was it flagrant?

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  1. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    You see that slap to Yao's head by Shaq? Shaq was nowhere near trying to block that ball when his hand struck Yao's head. Ouch! Was that frustration? Bad sportsmanship? Or an accident? All I know is Shaq sure didn't seem apologetic.

    What do you think? Not worth talking about or a sign that Shaq is frustrated by his injuries/age and that the fans/commentators are not as excited about the big diesel anymore?
     
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    Shaq wants payback for the loss of his starting berth in the ASG I guess. What he did was a bad display of sportsmanship and I think he should be banned even. He also said that he could kill Yao 1-on-1, is that bragging or what.
     
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    When I say it I was like Yao is about to swing but he kept his cool and took his frustartions out on the rim. It was a harsh foul IMO. But it's in the past so there's nothing anyone can do about it now.
     
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    First, shaq was going for the the ball. Second, did you expect him to apologize? That just makes you soft and causes you to get abused. If you show weakness, you might as well forfeit. When you knock somebody down, you walk away. That is how real men play basketball.
    Personally I hate how people get fouls just because they are big. I had a guy on my team who was bigger than everyone on the floor and he picked up fouls faster than Jerome James. That's not fun.
    All I am saying is that if George had done the same thing it would have been just a personal foul.
     
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    I didn't see the play however rest assured that the league will take action if they believe Shaq did that "intentionally". They have really cracked down on the cheap shots lately so if the NBA office thinks that Shaq was wrong in doing it, he will be fined and/or suspended.
     
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    I think he should be given a suspension. What he did wasn't acceptable.
     
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    I think the big moron is just mad that there is someone who can finally own his ass in the paint, just like "The Dream" used to.
     
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    We don't know if he did it intentionally.So it now fair that we say that he needs to get suspended.And i don't think Shaq would do anything like that.I think it was just an accident.But if he did it intentionally,he should definetly get supended for that.
     
  9. Custodianrules2

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    I was pretty shocked when I saw it but wasn't sure it was flagrant because the refs sort of let it go (Possibly because they wanted to keep interest level in the game high). In light of all this, I think Yao's a good sport because of how he handles the pressure and competition from the league's most dominant player. He'll be a future champ with the right pieces around him if he can stay healthy and have a free offseason to gain more strength. I do think he has a lot of hype on him at times but that is only because they are making the wrong comparrisons for marketing reasons. He's not a Shaq, but he's guy that can do things a man his size can't do which change the game on a different level. Plus his turn-around fade-away and perimeter range is impossible to defend. The rockets just need to give him the ball more because he makes everyone around him better in my opinion. He is also a good defensive presence. All in all he has a very likeable, quiet, professional image alomst like a Tim Duncan (very pleasant likeable athlete). Probably why Yao did better than Shaq on paper balloting in the country. You can't say it was all Chinese or American Asians voting.
     
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    There is no question that Shaq is bitter. He didn't like all the hype Yao was getting when he was first drafted and then made some idiotic comments regarding Asians. He is mad that Yao is starting over him, again, in the all star game. He is mad because he got dominanted and his team lost to Yao and the Rockets. Pull over Diesel, you're out of gas!
     
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    Well that took place in the first quarter (I think) and Shaq wasn't exactly get owned yet. I think he was trying to take a swipe at the ball but got worked by Yao's pivot and got him on the head instead. A guy like Shaq (there's not many of them) can't control his momentum.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dexter:</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't see the play however rest assured that the league will take action if they believe Shaq did that "intentionally". They have really cracked down on the cheap shots lately so if the NBA office thinks that Shaq was wrong in doing it, he will be fined and/or suspended.</div>


    I saw the play. I think Shaq was trying to block the ball, but accidently hit Yao hard,real hard.
     
  13. Custodianrules2

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    I think Shaq needs to take out his frustration in a positive way. Like punishing the dome of the guy who composed the Yao Ming theme song. Talk about irritating. I still can't get that damn song out of my head. Every so often out of randomness its Yao Ming, Yao Ming, Yao Ming, Yaoooh Miiiiiiing Yaoh Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing. Anyone else get the shivers listening to it?
     
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    Well they just ripped that off the ubiquitous European soccer chant. Can't really blame the Yao Ming theme song "composer" for its annoying rhythm and repetition.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ANiMuS:</div><div class="quote_post">A guy like Shaq (there's not many of them) can't control his momentum.</div>
    That is the most irrelevant comment that I have read in a while. If some guard like Kittles, or Nash is on a fast break they can't control their momentum either. But if they run into a planted player outside of the restricted area it will still be a charge. Refs don't care about control of movement, a foul is a foul.
     
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    Did I argue that it wasn't a foul? <strike>Crack is whack, TB...</strike>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ming637:</div><div class="quote_post">I saw the play. I think Shaq was trying to block the ball, but accidently hit Yao hard,real hard.</div>
    Yeah Ming369, you saw the play, Shaq was trying to block the ball 5 inches away from his reach and accidentally hit Yao's head instead cuz that was the only thing he could reach...the bottom line is that Shaq is a sore loser, you know how an old hag is past his prime and when things don't go their way, they become sore
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ANiMuS:</div><div class="quote_post">Did I argue that it wasn't a foul? Crack is whack, TB...</div>
    LOL, you are trying to justify Shaq's fouls on his size, which is silly. Does Yao foul people like that? Shawn Bradely? Ok that's a bad example, but you get the idea. Just because the media has fabricated a rivalry, and you have lost your normal starting ASG spot is not reason to act that way. If Shaq wanted to avoid a hard foul he could have, but he was sending a message to the Rockets.

    Ironically, the message that he sent didn't result in a W. [​IMG]
     
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    I did not try to justify the foul itself (and I'm not sure how you construed that I brought up his size as an excuse). I argued that he did not commit the foul on purpose, because by the time his hand came down the ball was no longer there. He was clearly going for the ball at first but he obviously can't stop his hand from striking its targeted location once it's already on the way down (especially considering that all this took place within half a second). He could've avoided a hard foul on that play? How often do you seen Shaq try to block a shot softly anyway?
     
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    You pointed out the fact that Shaq is a rarity, and he is, because of his size. So yes, your statement implies that it is because of his size that the foul was committed.
     

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