Pierce to demand trade????

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  1. Vyper

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Celtic slide: Will the Celtics trade Pierce? That's the question in Boston these days as general manager Danny Ainge has blown up the team and a coaching staff that had the Celtics in the conference finals in 2002. Pierce has remained quiet, but insiders say he's seething and could demand a trade if fortunes continue to wane. There would be plenty of takers. The Celtics are here to play the Bulls on Thursday, and that marks the end of the team's waiting period on Vin Baker. If he isn't cleared to play by then--and his agent claims he's ready--the Celtics would be in position to void the last two years of his contract at approximately $30 million.</div>

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  2. Rave

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    I personally would like Pierce to move, he's virtually in the same boat as SAR and TMac are in, well were for SAR. Maybe someone should trade for Ricky in him as they are very good offensively. Pierce would be a great addition, he's a workhorse, I bet any team would be happy to get him.
     
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    I feel bad for Boston fans. That whole team is gone and without Pierce, in my opinion, they're nothing.
     
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    He may be the "Celtic" but he'll never get anywhere if he stays. It depends on whether you want the team to succeed which is very unlikely unless they get some good trades in or for "The Truth" to finally come out.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Celtic slide: Will the Celtics trade Pierce? That's the question in Boston these days as general manager Danny Ainge has blown up the team and a coaching staff that had the Celtics in the conference finals in 2002</div>

    Okay...with all the moves that Danny Jackass has made, this is one trade that even he is not stupid enough to make (or maybe he is). Getting rid of the franchise? Even if he is quietly seething(?) I wouldn't trade this guy. I don't understand why the Celts just don't fire this idiot with a lack of bball knowledge and an ego to boot.
     
  6. BigMemo

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    Well, if they trade Pierce, they can get someone good to build up the team next year. Also, without Baker's contract, they could sign Kobe. I know it probably won't happen, but this team could improve so much. I'm tired of having subpar seasons like these, I'm up for a big change.
     
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    wow I was about to say that...Pierce could end up in L.A aswell...and Kobe could end up in Boston..thatll be awesome...but Boston is a better team than Orlando so Kobe will go far there aswell so there will be no excuse against T-Mac [​IMG] they wont recognize he is in a worst team.
     
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    I could see a Pierce trade happening. How does this trade sound

    Chicago trades: SG Jamal Crawford (17.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 34.9 minutes)
    PF Marcus Fizer (6.4 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 13.9 minutes)
    PF Tyson Chandler (10.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.9 minutes)
    Chicago receives: SG Paul Pierce (23.4 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 5.3 apg in 38.5 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -10.3 ppg, -8.9 rpg, and -1.9 apg.

    Boston trades: SG Paul Pierce (23.4 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 5.3 apg in 38.5 minutes)
    Boston receives: SG Jamal Crawford (17.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 49 games)
    PF Marcus Fizer (6.4 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30 games)
    PF Tyson Chandler (10.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 0.9 apg in 14 games)
    Change in team outlook: +10.3 ppg, +8.9 rpg, and +1.9 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Chicago needs a star and Boston needs to rebuild, this gives htem 3 young players and then with two first rounders this year, they could rebuild quickly. I don't know if Chicago would accept, but its worth a shot if Ainge could pull it off.
     
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    I cannot picture Paul Pierce in a Bulls jersey. If we trade Pierce then we have no leader, Boston needs a team leader and thats Pierce. All thoughs other guys aren't really star status but they do have potential, Tyson Chandler would be a great addition though, I think we could trade someone for him. The most important move the Celtics have to make is getting Kobe, and thats if Vin is out (which I hope so). Maybe this line-up could happen next season..

    2004-2005 starting line-up

    C Tyson Chandler
    G Paul Pierce
    G Kobe Bryant
    F Jiri Welsh
    F Brandon Hunter

    Thats how I would like it to be...There are a lot of other free agents this coming year that the Celtics can try for also though...Kenyon Martin isnt a bad thought.
     
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    If I was paul pierce I would want to be traded that team is not goin any where
     
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    It may be a good idea for Pierce to be traded, but he has had a good carer in Boston. If Boston would change there lineup like the wolves did for KG Pierce could pull the team back together.
     
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    That would be horrible to see Pierce moved. I think Boston can still save their season, and be a solid playoff contender if they get a big man to bang inside. Maybe someone like a Juwan Howard, IMO re-building isn't neccessary, they still have a huge season ahead of them, if they can make a move, they can be a good team again.
     
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    Pierce to be traded?

    Kobe doesn't care about pissing off the Lakers, he just wants to go somewhere else. Sorry, I just don't think that place would be Boston. It makes absolutely no sense at all to have two backcourt players like Kobe and Paul on the same team, just like it made absolutely no sense to acquire Ricky Davis. The Celtics need a big man, they havn't had a legitimate presence since the days of McHale and Parrish.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting OgShowtime:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe doesn't care about pissing off the Lakers, he just wants to go somewhere else. Sorry, I just don't think that place would be Boston. It makes absolutely no sense at all to have two backcourt players like Kobe and Paul on the same team, just like it made absolutely no sense to acquire Ricky Davis. The Celtics need a big man, they havn't had a legitimate presence since the days of McHale and Parrish.</div>
    As long as Danny Ainge is president this team will do a lot of things that don't make sense, so I have a feeling we'll just have to get used to it.

    The Celtics would have to trade Pierce if they got Kobe because right now it's Pierce's team, and Kobe wants to go somewhere that's his team, and his alone. They can trade Pierce for a big man.
     
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    Why not just keep Pierce and sign a free agent big man? I know Boston would love to have Kobe, but the numbers that he puts up will be comparable to Pierce's. Paul is having an off year and his numbers are still pretty good.


    Just saw this on sportscenter: Player's union will file expedited grievance on Baker's behalf...
     
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    I too feel horrible for Celtics fans...Ainge is completely ruining that team, and if Pierce jets, u can believe they'll be the same mediocre team they were in the mid-late 90s...
     
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    So...who's done a bigger job of turning a franchise around this season: Isaiah Thomas, or Danny Ainge? Note that I said "bigger", not "better", as in, who's had the bigger overall impact.
     
  18. Vyper

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    well lets see here..thats an interesting question...lets take a look at the last 3 years...


    <u>2001/2002 All Star Break:</u>

    <ul>
    [*]Boston - 28/21 w/overall record of 49/33
    [*]New York - 19/28 w/overall record of 30/52
    [/list]


    <u>2002/2003 All Star Break:</u>

    <ul>
    [*]Boston - 27/22 w/overall record of 44/38
    [*]New York - 21/27 w/overall record of 37/45
    [/list]


    <u>Current Season All Star Break(03/04):</u>

    <ul>
    [*]Boston - 23/31 w/current streak of 2-8
    [*]New York - 25/29 w/current streak of 6-4
    [/list]


    Now lets say that each team keeps up with their current trends of,New York winning 6 of 10 and Boston winning 2 of 10. That would give the Boston Celtics a final season record of 29/53 and it would give the New York Knicks a final record of 43/39.

    Compare that to last year and its a swing of +6 games for the Knicks and its a swing of -15 for the Celtics.


    So I guess my answer would be Danny Ainge. He has made the biggest 'impact' ,and thats not saying it was to the good side of things,with a swing of 15 games to the negative side. That's also a -17.5 slide compared the previous 2 seasons compared to the Knicks +10.5 swing when compared to the previous 2 seasons.


    So the question needs to be asked.....Danny Ainge,what the hell are you doing?????? [​IMG]
     
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    The thing about what Ainge is doing, is his moves aren't even cap related. For example trading Walker for LaFrentz(spelling might be wrong) didn't help their cap at all. They got lucky on getting rid of Vin, but all his moves seem like bone-headed mistakes to me. I did like him bringing in Ricky, but it seems like they've gotten even worse since that trade... wow good job Ainge, you really screwed this one up!!
     
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    It's a shame how a team can go from top contenders in the East, to a possible lottery team, just like that. Celts were definetley one of the more fun teams to watch in the playoffs, I hope Ainge makes up for this and makes a move by the trade deadline to acquire a big man, without trading Pierce.
     

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