When I heard the Chandler for Brand trade, I thought it was the stupidest thing. Why did the bulls trade elton, still one of the best power forwards in the game, and he's young. Tyson has potential, but elton is playing great right now and will still be playing good in the years to come. I don't care if Curry and Brand have similar games <-- most ppl's arguments. Hmm...imagine having Brand with the bulls now, i think we might have made the playoffs... What about the Artest, Mercer, Miller 4 Rose, Best trade..i don't know how the contracts would work out, but let's ignore that 4 now. Artest was my favorite player when he was w/ the bulls, a hell of a defender and not bad at shooting now, miller is just unbelievable over at sacramento. Rose wasn't that bad as a bulls player, but obviously wasn't good enough and the bulls managment had 2 trade him.. Imagine our lineups if the above trades didn't happen... PG Jamal Crawford SG Kirk Hinrich SF Ron Artest PF Elton Brand C Brad Miller 6th man of the year Eddy Curry maybe a little stretch on curry winning hte 6th man of the year IGNORE CONTRACTS, i don't really care if we would be over the contract limit or crap like that, i'm not in the stupid business, i'm just a fan dreaming of what could have been a playoff contendor team... Props 2 obiecent 4 the pippen avatar
Jerry Krause made a lot of those mistakes....I mean trades He also made every coach that came after Phil Jackson run the triangle offensive even though the Bulls didn't have the personal to be effective with that offensive set. Thus hiding the talent that a lot of those guys obviously had, but be honest you didn't think the Jalen Rose trade was a good one at the time?
i liked jalen rose at the time no doubt, i was a pacers fan thanks to "miller time", but i liked ron artest; he wasn't that great at the time tho..and i wasn't that fond of brad miller as well. the rose trade i thought we were giving up 2 many guys for rose, but at the end of the day i thought it would work out for both teams..but alas i was wrong.. fine put jc at sg and kirk pg, i really don't care.
Alot of that roster you posted probably wouldnt have happened because while keeping Brand we would have most likely had a better record meaning lower draft position therefore not being able to draft Hinrich or Curry! But it is a good thought!
Brand probably wouldn't have improved the way he has, had he stayed. I'm glad he left, it gave him a chance to bloom. Tough luck for you guys though losing such a overly great player. It was as bad as losing Big Ben and Shaq for the Magic. Hard to believe you could've had Brad Miller. Seems much like the Magic and Mavericks you keep losing anyone who has size, strength and the ability to kill on defense. Artest....what a loss.
Brand would have blossomed even more in Chicago as he would be the GO TO guys I think! in fact his number sin Chicago are just slightly worse than they are now anyway so he hasnt improved that much!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Poor Start:</div><div class="quote_post">Alot of that roster you posted probably wouldnt have happened because while keeping Brand we would have most likely had a better record meaning lower draft position therefore not being able to draft Hinrich or Curry! But it is a good thought!</div> They could have gotten Curry without trading Brand to the Clippers because they had the fourth pick in the draft that year, but they wouldn't have gotten Tyson Chandler and your right they probably wouldn't have gotten Hinrich, But a front line of Brand and Curry would have been awsome. and if Jay Williams doesn't get hurt they don't need Hinrich.
i think we still could have got hinrich even if we had a later draft pick, a lot of ppl were surprised at the drafting of hinrich at 7th pick (?) hinrich might have been the steal of the draft...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting gubagangsta:</div><div class="quote_post">They could have gotten Curry without trading Brand to the Clippers because they had the fourth pick in the draft that year, but they wouldn't have gotten Tyson Chandler and your right they probably wouldn't have gotten Hinrich, But a front line of Brand and Curry would have been awsome. and if Jay Williams doesn't get hurt they don't need Hinrich.</div> We would not have been able to get Curry. With Brand there the year before our record woul dhave been way better and therefor dropping us out of the top 10 probably. There is just noway. I aint trying to argue over what COULDA happened so your opinion is your opinion but mine is mine. Its a good thought though.......the original post! Also, we picked J. Will with the number 1 pick, (without Yao) we would of never had the #1 to even think of selecting Jay Will.
the bulls should never trade their stars again... it makes me mad to see how good brand, artest and brad milelr got after they were traded... lets not take that chance ever... haha.... maybe with hte old guys like davis.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Magic Johnson:</div><div class="quote_post">Brand probably wouldn't have improved the way he has, had he stayed. I'm glad he left, it gave him a chance to bloom</div> The man keeps his rep livin' large
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Poor Start:</div><div class="quote_post">We would not have been able to get Curry. With Brand there the year before our record woul dhave been way better and therefor dropping us out of the top 10 probably. There is just noway. I aint trying to argue over what COULDA happened so your opinion is your opinion but mine is mine. Its a good thought though.......the original post! Also, we picked J. Will with the number 1 pick, (without Yao) we would of never had the #1 to even think of selecting Jay Will.</div> WE STILL WOULD HAVE HAD CURRY, curry was the second pick that year and chandler was the fourth pick, chandler was traded 4 brand, jay williams we probably would have not gotten, but it's not like he's doing anything right now 4 us (no offense jay <--going 2 be an all star b4 career is over), we might have ended up w/ someone else..
everyone said that the bulls- raptors trade benefitted the raptors, but the past two games between the bulls and the raptors, the raptors just cant seem to keep up. Or maybe it is only because the bulls are playing at home. Well we'll see on their next game that will be in Toronto. I guess I've learned to accept the trade, even though Jalen Rose and Donyell Marshall WERE fun to watch. I guess JYD and Davis are okay too.
i thought the bulls benefited from the trade, i like rose and marshall, but jyd brings effort, davis is just okay, overall i think the trade was done to get rid of rose cuz of his contract and he jacks a lot of shots (<--how else are you suppose to score?)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting holyace2k2:</div><div class="quote_post">WE STILL WOULD HAVE HAD CURRY, curry was the second pick that year and chandler was the fourth pick, chandler was traded 4 brand, jay williams we probably would have not gotten, but it's not like he's doing anything right now 4 us (no offense jay <--going 2 be an all star b4 career is over), we might have ended up w/ someone else..</div> Thanks for correcting that poorstart guy!!!!! I'm a Heat fan and I knew that :thumbsup:
If those players weren't traded, everything would have been different. You probably would have had a better record and lower pick, which means you might have not selected Kirk... I've said this before but anyone drafted after a trade probably wouldn't have been there if the trade had not happened.
yeah i guess the trade benefitted bot the raptors and the bulls... the bulls needed the defense- hence, JYD and Davis, while the raptors needed the offense- Rose and Marshall.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">If those players weren't traded, everything would have been different. You probably would have had a better record and lower pick, which means you might have not selected Kirk... I've said this before but anyone drafted after a trade probably wouldn't have been there if the trade had not happened.</div> I've said this before as well a lot of ppl were suprised we picked hinrich so far up (i think mainly cuz' he was from illinois) we still probably would have drafted him later, but of course we will never know..
Yeah, but Kirk was expected to be drafted at a later pick (already said, I think) and we wouldnt have drafted him anyway if Jay Williams didnt have that accident... Oh well, I'm happy with who the Bulls have even though they are losing. The bulls are entertaining to watch and they seem like good people <-- irrelevant
