I'm not sure on this, so now i'm asking you guys for your support. An assist is a pass to a scored basket... i'm told you get two steps? If the person you pass too scores within' two steps, you get the assist? This is prolly wrong... And whats the rule on the jump steps? You come up one foot, down two and up those two feet then you must release the ball. Correct? Instead of up one foot, and up another then releasing the ball.
An assist is a pass that leads to a basket...it doesn't neccesarily matter how many steps is taken...for example, if i get a steal and throw it up court to a player with a free path...he could take 2 or 3 dribbles and 4 or 5 steps and I would still get an assist... As for the jump steps...by rule, you are allowed two steps...it doesn't matter how many feet you take off, but you land with two feet (obviously), therefore it counts as two steps...a jump step is like two steps that's simultaneuos... When a guy takes one step, then hops, that's three steps and a travel (altho u kno them NBA refs don't always call it)..or when a guy hops, then takes another step (like shaq often does), thats also a travel... I hope this made sense...
Thanks for the info. I was going to ask the same thing. In Holland most of the time we dont get the NBA rules. Too many but this is a great way to tell it. Nice info
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">An assist is a pass that leads to a basket...it doesn't neccesarily matter how many steps is taken...for example, if i get a steal and throw it up court to a player with a free path...he could take 2 or 3 dribbles and 4 or 5 steps and I would still get an assist... As for the jump steps...by rule, you are allowed two steps...it doesn't matter how many feet you take off, but you land with two feet (obviously), therefore it counts as two steps...a jump step is like two steps that's simultaneuos... When a guy takes one step, then hops, that's three steps and a travel (altho u kno them NBA refs don't always call it)..or when a guy hops, then takes another step (like shaq often does), thats also a travel... I hope this made sense...</div> Thanks bro.
@Shard07 Let me explain something about my nickname and avatar. As a young boy when i first started to play basketball I always wanna have fun on the court. So I like to "clown" alot. Doing stuff that is funny. Its hard to explain. My english isnt that good. Also when its gametime I take it seriously. I dont show that alot but on the inside I know and it shows when I play but if that scares you, shouldnt play against me cause when i get on the court im even more scary than that. HAHAHAHA aren you scared yet?? You shouldnt! Im just kidding
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting theclown1:</div><div class="quote_post">@Shard07 Let me explain something about my nickname and avatar. As a young boy when i first started to play basketball I always wanna have fun on the court. So I like to "clown" alot. Doing stuff that is funny. Its hard to explain. My english isnt that good. Also when its gametime I take it seriously. I dont show that alot but on the inside I know and it shows when I play but if that scares you, shouldnt play against me cause when i get on the court im even more scary than that. HAHAHAHA aren you scared yet?? You shouldnt! Im just kidding</div> Har, good attitude. Edit: Only reason I don't have a portrait(Avatar) is cuz of the file size limit. ;P
The movie IT is the only movie that really scared me, so thats why I said it...that clown still makes me cringe.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Shard07:</div><div class="quote_post">The movie IT is the only movie that really scared me, so thats why I said it...that clown still makes me cringe.</div> Likewise, and I haven't even seen the movie. Just the cover on the book is enough to frighten me.
The NBA should also have like half asst and blocks or rebounds... Like 1/2 a sack in the NFL... If you give the ball...... Well here's an example...: GP is on the fastbreak with Kobe on the side running a 2 on 1... GP gives it to Kobe and he goes up for the dunk... Kobe instead of making it and giving GP an ASST gets fouled and shoots FT's... If he makes one... GP should get 1/2 an ASST. If he makes both, he should get 1 ASST... If it is a three-pointer and he makes all three then it would be 1 ASST, makes two 1/2 ASST, makes one 1/3 ASST. I think this is a very reasonable idea... Half rebounds can come when two players get a rebound at the same time which happens a lot... ~Out, Prime
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PrimeTime:</div><div class="quote_post">The NBA should also have like half asst and blocks or rebounds... Like 1/2 a sack in the NFL... If you give the ball...... Well here's an example...: GP is on the fastbreak with Kobe on the side running a 2 on 1... GP gives it to Kobe and he goes up for the dunk... Kobe instead of making it and giving GP an ASST gets fouled and shoots FT's... If he makes one... GP should get 1/2 an ASST. If he makes both, he should get 1 ASST... If it is a three-pointer and he makes all three then it would be 1 ASST, makes two 1/2 ASST, makes one 1/3 ASST. I think this is a very reasonable idea... Half rebounds can come when two players get a rebound at the same time which happens a lot... ~Out, Prime</div> I've always thought that too...but the problem is that they would have to go back and fix the record books...more guys will be averaging like 10 assist....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe Krazy:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not sure on this, so now i'm asking you guys for your support. An assist is a pass to a scored basket... i'm told you get two steps? If the person you pass too scores within' two steps, you get the assist? This is prolly wrong... And whats the rule on the jump steps? You come up one foot, down two and up those two feet then you must release the ball. Correct? Instead of up one foot, and up another then releasing the ball.</div> to sum it up.. an assist is a pass made to another player, and they score directly off of that pass, w/o dribbling. they can hold the ball for 20 seconds then shoot it, or take a few steps right after receiving it.. that's how i always looked at it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting okaforever:</div><div class="quote_post">to sum it up.. an assist is a pass made to another player, and they score directly off of that pass, w/o dribbling. they can hold the ball for 20 seconds then shoot it, or take a few steps right after receiving it.. that's how i always looked at it.</div> Nah man...they can dribble it...officially, as long as the pass leads directly to a score, its an assist, dribble or no dribble.....
nba definition: "Assist: A pass that leads directly to a basket." i dont know.. to me if you put the ball on the floor, it's not "directly" to the basket.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">I've always thought that too...but the problem is that they would have to go back and fix the record books...more guys will be averaging like 10 assist....</div> They wouldn't go back and adjust the record books, they would just make sure to begin keeping those certain records from hereon out. For example, the NBA used to not keep track of blocks in games back when Wilt Chaimberlain was in the league, and even though we don't have the stats to back it up, it's pretty much common knowledge that he is one of the most prolific blockers to ever play the game. He would have most likely held numerous blocking records that would still be standing strong to this very day if the NBA kept track of them, but they didn't.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting okaforever:</div><div class="quote_post">nba definition: "Assist: A pass that leads directly to a basket." i dont know.. to me if you put the ball on the floor, it's not "directly" to the basket.</div> Consider this...If I get a steal and throw the ball down court to a wide open player who was "cherry picking"....He's all by himself without a defender in sight and he catches the pass at his own three pt line...he takes a few dribbles to get to the basket for an uncontested layup.....would that still be considered it assist? According to NBA rules, it would because that pass led directly to a basket... I hope that made sense
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Accord:</div><div class="quote_post">They wouldn't go back and adjust the record books, they would just make sure to begin keeping those certain records from hereon out. For example, the NBA used to not keep track of blocks in games back when Wilt Chaimberlain was in the league, and even though we don't have the stats to back it up, it's pretty much common knowledge that he is one of the most prolific blockers to ever play the game. He would have most likely held numerous blocking records that would still be standing strong to this very day if the NBA kept track of them, but they didn't.</div> Well, there is a difference between adjusting a category and creating a whole new one... My problem is what if say a guy like Jason Kidd breaks John Stocktons assist record with the new rules....how would we really know if he really did...we would have to put an asterik next to the record... I agree that having half an assist is better...but I think it should've been done that way from the beginning...right now, it would be too much trouble to change the rules...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Consider this...If I get a steal and throw the ball down court to a wide open player who was "cherry picking"....He's all by himself without a defender in sight and he catches the pass at his own three pt line...he takes a few dribbles to get to the basket for an uncontested layup.....would that still be considered it assist? According to NBA rules, it would because that pass led directly to a basket... I hope that made sense </div> yeah it makes sense. i'm not saying you're wrong, or i'm right, i just view it differently. and you shouldn't be cherry picking in the first place. i honestly wouldn't give that an assist.. cherry picking is bitch ball. when we cherry pick around here.. we have to here it forever and ever. a lack of defense on one teams part shouldn't be rewarded on the other end.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, there is a difference between adjusting a category and creating a whole new one... My problem is what if say a guy like Jason Kidd breaks John Stocktons assist record with the new rules....how would we really know if he really did...we would have to put an asterik next to the record... I agree that having half an assist is better...but I think it should've been done that way from the beginning...right now, it would be too much trouble to change the rules...</div> It wouldn't be too much trouble to change the rules and it would have no effect whatsoever on any current assist records. Secondary assists would not be in the same category as regular assists, or primary assists. If Jason Kidd had a game where he had 10 regular assists and 5 secondary assists, he would not get 15 assists, he would get 10 regular assists and 5 secondary assists. Primary and secondary assists would be seperate categories just like blocks and steals are two completely different categories. Having "half assists" would not be better because it would then have a huge impact on regular assist statistics. This is why the NHL has a seperate category for secondary assists instead of just making them "half assists." You can't compare it to "half sacks" like in the NFL because they are two completely different things. The only thing this would have an effect on is triple doubles and double doubles, it would make it much much much easier for a guy like KG that is capable of getting a triple double on any given to get a quadruple double, but you have to remember that the NBA faced the exact same dilema when they began recording blocks and they would be able to easily deal with it. Perhaps they would make it so secondary assists couldn't count towards a double double, triple double, etc. on grounds that secondary assists aren't significant enough to count towards such a feat.
