Amare Stoudemire

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  1. Buckets

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    Amare Stoudemire is remarkable, this guy is really something. 10 blocks in a game [​IMG] thats like a league record, in my days of watching NBA games thats the most ive ever seen, and seven swats at the half????? [​IMG] . Not just he defense is good, his offense too pumping out 20 points as well, and this guy came from high school. Imagine if he went to college, this guy is the most deserving allstar snub this year, and yes more than Elton Brand IMO, what do you guys think he'll be 3 or 4 years down the road???
     
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    His defense can still be better and he was no all-star snub, especially considering how much he DIDN'T play in the first half of the season. Three or four years down the road he'll be the post guy the Suns need, actually he is that right now, but it will be all for naught if the Suns don't figure out what direction they want to take the team.
     
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    10 isn't the block record it's 17 by Elmore Smith and even Mt. Mutumbo had 10 earlier in the season.But Amare did have a great game but he still can improve his game.
    He wasn't a all-star Snub because he was injured alot and didn't have time to prove anything yet.

    Amare is the post player that the Suns need.They lost alot of games when he was injured.He is very important part of the Suns success and Future.I think the Suns are rebuilding and want a young team.I hope the Suns can keep Amare because he can be a great player to build around.He has talent and potential.
     
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    To tell you the truth I wasn't even that impressed with the 10 blocks... then I heard it tied a Suns record, I was shocked nobody has blocked more than 10 shots in a game for the Suns, then I heard the NBA record is 17, again I'm surprised it's not higher. I understand 10 blocks is difficult and whatnot, and 17 is amazing... but I just assumed if a player can get 100 points, or 30 assists, or 55 rebounds, why not like 20-25 blocks?

    Anyway I now realize that was a pretty big feat. But he'll have to keep it up...

    All-Star snub? I agree he's not, in-fact if the NBA did with the MLB does (at least 1 player per team must go to the all-star game) it STILL wouldn't have been Amare, it would be Shawn. He's got better numbers, Amare is impressive when you watch him, but compare his numbers to other PFs in the league and it's not too impressive. Dirk, Randolph, 'Melo, Maggette, and maybe even Rashard Lewis deserved a spot before Amare.

    Amare will definately be a top 10 player very soon... he's got the agressiveness and nastiness he needs to play PF, he's got some good moves, and with his much improved shooting (not sure if anybody outside of Phoenix has noticed, but Amare has improved his 15 footer, and has been great from the mid-range, most of his defenders dare him to shoot, this year he improved so he has been shooting and doing very well). If he can learn to play without fouling out, and hit a few more free throws (he shoots pretty well for a big guy, but seeing as he's about the only Sun who gets to the line, it'd be nice if he made more) he'll be in the Duncan, Garnett, Brand status.

    As long as the Suns want him, he'll be here... the year before his contract expires the Suns will do what they did with Marion and sign him to a long contract of a lot of money -- he'll obviously take it and will be a Sun for as long as the Suns want him... but with Jerry and Bryan who knows who'll they'll trade next -- how about Amare and 3 first rounders for the Denver Nuggets' beer guy :P
     
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    Sorry, i didnt take everything into mind when i started this thread that he was injured, but i dont think Melo deserved the spot more than him, Melos good dont get me wrong but hes got all the hype with him, while Amare is only known from being rookie of the year and the rookie vs sophomore game MVP.
     
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    And tv commercials...
     
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    He'll be a future All-Star, but he didn't deserve it more than Brand, if you're an All-Star your team shouldn't lose (unless you're voted by the fans), but the coaches don't pick players from the bottom of the league unless their stats are fenominal.

    Not a snub at all though.

    I'll also agree that in addition to Brand, Randolph, Rashard, Melo and Maggette deserved it more than him.
     
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    Holy shit, 33 pts, 17 rebs against the Kings! This is guy is a future all star.
     
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    Amare is going to be a top Power Forward in the Futur.He is young,talented and has potential.He has a bright futur and he is still improving his game everyday.He is going to be one of the best players in the league in the near futur.
     
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    He has the power and the finesse at the post. How great is that?
     
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    His jumpshot is also becoming more consitent, everyone should be scared of the Suns and Amare, Marion, Johnson, Barbosa and Carbakapa in the future. Beware!!!
     
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    Wow I didn't know he got 10 swats this season. The most I've ever seen while watching a game was with Keon Clark that had 12, when he still was with Toronto. Anyways, no doubt he'll be an allstart a later down the line, a MVP. No doubt. But he was a old highschool drafte. He turned 20 in the same year he got drafted. I still like to know what happened with that, cause he should have graduated in 2000 like me or 2001. Oh well.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 30 standing ver:</div><div class="quote_post">He turned 20 in the same year he got drafted. I still like to know what happened with that, cause he should have graduated in 2000 like me or 2001. Oh well.</div>
    He was born exactly 5 months after me (Nov. 16th 1982) so he wasn't eligible to go to kindergarden until the following year because of his November B-Day, meaning I'd graduate at 17 in 2000 while he graduated at 18 in 2001... so somewhere before his Junior year (because I hear a lot of places that as an 18 year old Junior he would have been a top pick in the draft) he must have failed a grade.

    On "Real Sports" with Bryant Gumbel, I saw a piece on Amare before he was in the draft, and it was horrible the way people used him... it shined a light on the greed even at the high school level. His mom is always in and out of jail, Amare went to like 7 different high schools, his pastor/friend is serving jail time, and he lost his college eligibility early in his high school days. That's why he dropped down to the 9th pick in the draft, and I was sure he would drop past the Suns... but luckily Bryan Colangelo made one of his better moves.

    Anyway so as you see, he's had a messed up life, failing a grade somewhere down the line isn't too far-fetched given what he's been around. Of course it couldn't have been in jr high or high school, I'm sure his basketball talent was enough to get him passing grades [​IMG] (freakin' corrupt sports!)
     
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    What about Lebron, I know he's born in December, but how come he's the same age as Melo and Bosh, yet they were born the same year. (all 1984)

    Bosh in March, Melo in May and Lebron in December.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">What about Lebron, I know he's born in December, but how come he's the same age as Melo and Bosh, yet they were born the same year. (all 1984)

    Bosh in March, Melo in May and Lebron in December.</div>
    Well the reason LeBron is the same age is BECAUSE they were all born in 1984... in March, Bosh will be 20, in May Melo will be 20 and in December LeBron will be 20. The reason LeBron was in high school while the others were in college, was because LeBron had to wait a year to start kindergarden, he would have been 4 when school started, you gotta be 5 by a certain date (I think it's in September).

    It's kind of a funny question, "Why are the same the age if they were born in the same year" isn't that how it's supposed to work?
     
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    Amare is good and has the potential to be great. He needs to pass more often though, he may need that skill in the future.....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting scorbutic:</div><div class="quote_post">Well the reason LeBron is the same age is BECAUSE they were all born in 1984... in March, Bosh will be 20, in May Melo will be 20 and in December LeBron will be 20. The reason LeBron was in high school while the others were in college, was because LeBron had to wait a year to start kindergarden, he would have been 4 when school started, you gotta be 5 by a certain date (I think it's in September).

    It's kind of a funny question, "Why are the same the age if they were born in the same year" isn't that how it's supposed to work?</div>

    Oh alright, I wasn't sure why, that sucks for him though, cause he could have gotten one year of college, and it would probably give him better fundamentals and he would be even better.

    Man I didn't even word the question right, wow

    I meant to say What about Lebron, I know he was born is December, but how come he's the same age as Melo and Bosh but never went to college and was still in highschool, yet they were born in the same year.

    Thanks though.
     
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    ^ I've noticed people born late in the year started school with others who were born a year after. But I do know a girl who was born in late Dec. of 82, and graduated with me in 2k. And I knew another girl who was born on the new year's eve of 83 and graduated in 2k1. It's just funny how that u have to be that age before a certain month doesn't apply to everyone. Garnett was 19 before the new year started too in his rookie year. Darko is the only 1 who was born in 85. It's been awhile since HS drafts didn't turn 19 before the new year. Kobe and Jermain are the only other 2 HS drafte's that I can remember being 18 through the next year.

    As for Amare, I did hear about that. Forgot about that, he did have a hard life. That does explain everything.
     
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    Amare's life would make a great Inside the Game episode.
     

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