OFFICIAL Game Thread: Kings @ Lakers(TNT)

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  1. Purple N Gold

    Purple N Gold JBB JustBBall Member

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    Well looks like this one is going down to the wire guys. 81-80 Lakers heading into the 4th, I expect a takeover and a big quarter from Kobe. Lakers also have to get the ball in to Shaq more early in the quarter, because late in the game Sac-Town will start to foul, and make the Big Fella head to the line. It is important to try and get something going with Shaq early in the quarter, and we also need some defensive stops. We can't keep letting Peja bury those threes right in our face, we need a hand on him. Still way too many holes in the defense, we will not win this game if we don't step up our defensive efforts, period.

    What the hell is going on? Lakers are giving the Kings everything, easy layups, turnovers, bad shot selection, etc...Get Shaq back in the game! Kobe needs to get back to where he's most comfortable with, he's missed numerous risky bank shots and left handed layups right in the lane. I wanna see more explosiveness, not that dribble stop, shot bullsht. And for the last time....play some DEFENSE! Do the Lakers know what that is? Their giving Peja way too many open looks. I'm suprised myself, of course we all know he's a great shooter, but DAMN!
     
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    I don't care what Kobe's stats are tonight, he's playing horrible. Making some bad passes and turning it over like crazy. He's really got to pass it a little more tonight, taking way too many shots. We need to get Gary involved, and Shaq is dropping everything that's being passed to him.. good game but nothings going right for L.A.
     
  3. Purple N Gold

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't care what Kobe's stats are tonight, he's playing horrible. Making some bad passes and turning it over like crazy. He's really got to pass it a little more tonight, taking way too many shots. We need to get Gary involved, and Shaq is dropping everything that's being passed to him.. good game but nothings going right for L.A.</div>

    I agree, he's turning over the ball way too much. Also, when the lane is open, he pulls up for a jumper, when he has an open shot he takes it in and turns it over. Hopefully this lineup we have in now will work, Rush will give us some nice offensive shooting efforts. Feed it to Shaq.

    Wow, we cannot buy a basket. 4-2 break, and Walton ends up at the line. [​IMG] . Then again, I guess it's just another one of them Laker 4th quarters....

    I'll say it again....GET THE DAMN BALL TO SHAQ! Is it that hard? Kobe is trying to do too much right now, either give it to him in the post, or throw it in to the Big Fella. I can't stand guys like Fisher and George forcing shots either. LA needs to get this game under control.

    Thank you for getting it to Shaq, it's about damn time. Just key in on Shaq, he's in front of Divac right under the basket every time down the floor. This should be a Shaq-show down low for the next 4-5 minutes.

    WOW....Gary Payton is embarassing himself out there, he can't even come close to hanging with Bibby. He's getting burnt every time and that Divac pick has been unstoppable throughout the game, and Peja or Mike can't miss.
     
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    I didn't see the game, but I heard it on the radio....Mychael Thompson and the play-by-play guy said Christie slapped Kobe across the face when he was shooting the buzzer beater....lol, are they for real, or are they just crazy biased Laker announcers.....
     
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    Damnit, we had our chance, thought Kobe was going to get that one. Damn, this is a tough loss to take.....still can't believe it, that we actually had our chance to win the game. Got a good look, but came up short.

    Too many breakdowns by the Lakers, they'd get on a run, then let up on defense. Also, they were avoiding Shaq almost the whole 4th quarter, although I can't blame them for not giving him the ball in the last few minutes. Also, turnovers and forced shots killed us in this game. Like I said, too many killers for LA to win this one. The Kings got off to a run, and the Lakers were never able to regroup from it. Great game played by Bibby, Peja. But they were left open a whole lot, Lakers had the advantage inside, but Sac-Town countered with 3 point buckets. See ya in the playoffs, we'll get em next time. [​IMG]

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't see the game, but I heard it on the radio....Mychael Thompson and the play-by-play guy said Christie slapped Kobe across the face when he was shooting the buzzer beater....lol, are they for real, or are they just crazy biased Laker announcers.....</div>

    Nah, he may have tapped him on the elbow but that's about it. Came no where close to slapping him in the face, LOL. Disgusting loss tonight. I'm going to sleep on this loss, I can't take it.
     
  6. Kobe Krazy

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    The Lakers need to get basic junior-high Basketball defense fundamentals down.

    No -filtered-ing shit Peja is gonna make 7-10 three pointers when he's wide -filtered-ing open every damn shot? Not to mention how many easy lay ups, etc they got.

    And Kobe running in the lane and losing the ball as he swings his arms wildly in the air then yells at the refs for not calling the foul. Smart, Kobe. You barely got away with one, when Divac knocked the ball clean from your hands but somehow a foul was called. [​IMG]
    (God I hate it how he constantly does that.)

    I'm dissapointed. Maybe I expect too much. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Nah, he may have tapped him on the elbow but that's about it. Came no where close to slapping him in the face, LOL. Disgusting loss tonight.</div>

    Yea, I figured that...lol, I can't imagine a player slapping another player across the face and the refs letting it slide....Joe Meyers and Mychael Thompson are bias as hell everytime I hear them...unlike Sunderland and Stu Lantz who are more objective...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe Krazy:</div><div class="quote_post">The Lakers need to get basic junior-high Basketball defense fundamentals down.

    No -filtered-ing shit Peja is gonna make 7-10 three pointers when he's wife -filtered-ing open every damn shot? Not to mention how many easy lay ups, etc they got.

    And Kobe running in the lane and losing the ball as he swings his arms wildly in the air then yells at the refs for not calling the foul. Smart, Kobe. You barely got away with one, when Divac knocked the ball clean from your hands but somehow a foul was called.

    I'm dissapointed. Maybe I expect too much. [​IMG]</div>

    Nah, we don't expect too much. This was a horrible game played by the Lakers, just disgusting. There's no way in the world we should have lossed this one. Way too many mistakes on the offensive, and of course the defensive side.
     
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    Kobe what a ballhog

    You have a 300 pound monster inside, use him. You only have to look at the shot difference between him and Shaq, Kings only have Divac inside, go to Shaq every play not play one on one basketball all night like it is the all-star game.

    Bibby was clutch, him and Peja are so fun to watch.
     
  10. Kobe Krazy

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">Nah, we don't expect too much. This was a horrible game played by the Lakers, just disgusting. There's no way in the world we should have lossed this one. Way too many mistakes on the offensive, and of course the defensive side.</div>

    It was defenitly disturbing, that would have been a good night to be a Bibby/Stoyakovic fan. Damn they were brilliant. [​IMG] Kobe would have been too, except for how many ugly missed shots he took. At least he was killer at the free-throw, as usual.
     
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    Did anyone notice that Divac was moving when he was trying to set the pick, he should be called on both occasions
     
  12. Purple N Gold

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe what a ballhog

    You have a 300 pound monster inside, use him. You only have to look at the shot difference between him and Shaq, Kings only have Divac inside, go to Shaq every play not play one on one basketball all night like it is the all-star game.

    Bibby was clutch, him and Peja are so fun to watch.</div>

    I wouldn't really say "Kobe is a ballhog". He forced more shots earlier in the game that killed us more than the 2nd half. It was horrible ball movement throughout that whole 4th quarter. We also missed a bunch of layups, and as expected Shaq choked in the clutch on his FT's. "I hit them when we need them the most."

    This was one of the most worst games played by the Lakers this season. And like I said earlier in the thread, Shaq did not get enough touches. Too much dribbling and forced shots being thrown up. It should have been a Shaq-show through the end of the 3rd, and the whole 4th. Not to mention Divac ended up with 5 fouls. We could have put Shaq to work all night, and easily could have won this. It was clear he couldn't be stopped, sitting right under the basket every possession, yet the Lakers rather shoot up 3's. Poor execution, Kings caught a run at the end of the 3rd and the begenning of the 4th, it was a choke by LA tonight. And man, if Kobe would have made that.....damn.

    Anybody watching the press conference on Bibby on TNT? "Chris Webber is the best Foward in the game." What a biased comment, get off the air.
     
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    Lakers just don't defend the screen and roll very well...It's been a problem since the days of Del Harris...I was thinking this was the year they would finally correct it with the additions of GP and Malone, but nah....

    Defensively, the Lakers just aren't championship caliber so far...They have plenty of great individual defenders, but their team D is just sad....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Defensively, the Lakers just aren't championship caliber so far...They have plenty of great individual defenders, but their team D is just sad....</div>

    Agreed, that's why we need Malone back. He will add a spice back to the offense, which will help us pull out these close games. Felt GP shouldn't have been on Bibby on those last couple possessions, I would have rather took my chances with George or Kobe, and if he tried to attack the basket, have help with Shaq, since Divac couldn't hit a jumper to save his life.
     
  15. Mez

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldn't really say "Kobe is a ballhog". He forced more shots earlier in the game that killed us more than the 2nd half. It was horrible ball movement throughout that whole 4th quarter. We also missed a bunch of layups, and as expected Shaq choked in the clutch on his FT's. "I hit them when we need them the most."
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    Actually in tonight's case, I agree with AllNet that Kobe was a ballhog. I wouldn't have thrown it into Shaq given the fact that he can't make freethrows at all lately, but we still do have Gary. This isn't like the past where it was only Shaq and Kobe, with all Kobe in the end. Gary should have been a part of those final minutes, but it was all Kobe again. Even if that last shot did go in I didn't like the play, Kobe had an unbelievably ugly game. Definitely the ugliest game he's played in a long, long, long time.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually in tonight's case, I agree with AllNet that Kobe was a ballhog. I wouldn't have thrown it into Shaq given the fact that he can't make freethrows at all lately, but we still do have Gary. This isn't like the past where it was only Shaq and Kobe, with all Kobe in the end. Gary should have been a part of those final minutes, but it was all Kobe again. Even if that last shot did go in I didn't like the play, Kobe had an unbelievably ugly game. Definitely the ugliest game he's played in a long, long, long time.</div>

    Actually, Gary was a big part in the final minutes of the game. We don't need him to score, we needed him to make plays which he did successfully. He didn't even deserve to be in the damn game after his horrible defensive efforts tonight. You could just see him pulling on Bibby's jersey, he would make one move and GP is shook. Some help D could have been better.

    Again, you can't call Kobe a "ballhog". If your going to call him that at all, I hope your talking about the 1st half. He had the open looks, but couldn't finish. In the 2nd half he took a few bad shots, but I can't blame him. The point was that it was horrible ball movement in the 4th quarter, period. It shouldn't have even came to the point where Kobe needed to hit that 3, and then attempt the other one that he missed. I can't even count how many mistakes were made on the Lakers part. When you have a 7'2 300 pound Center on Vlade Divac, you may want to use him. I wouldn't have thrown it to Shaq either in the final minutes, but he wasn't even noticed on the floor as the 3rd quarter ended, and throughout most of the 4th. It's not the point that we lost, it's the fact that poor execution blew us this game.
     
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    Bibby said that for HIM Chris Webber was the best PF..
     
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    I'm not talking about any half or quarter, overall he was looking to shoot almost the whole game. I don't like him taking all the shots even if they're all falling. First off it gets your teammates out of the game offensively, and once you do start missing the team usually has offensive struggles. He's been great with the left hand and the bank shots, but he really relied on it way too much tonight, and it wasn't falling. I would definitely agree that I wouldn't want the ball in Shaq's hands in the final seconds because of freethrows, but we needed to get Gary involved offensively too. This guy was a big time clutch scorer for years and did average 20ppg until this year ya know.. He also wasn't playing much defense in my opinion. He was a real non factor in the game, and I was also very disappointed in not seeing Cook after he was taken out in the 3rd. He's been playing well for us, and I'd rather see him getting time in the 4th than Slava. George didn't shoot the ball perticularly well, but he was effective for us. I can't wait until we get Karl back... its like we were a whole other team when we had him. This game entertained me, but I didn't like a lot of it. I was disappointed Phil didn't call that timeout with 9 seconds to go in the game also.. If we have two full time outs left just draw something up, I hate that "let the players work it out" bullshit. Get up and do some coaching.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mazzystar:</div><div class="quote_post">Bibby said that for HIM Chris Webber was the best PF..</div>

    That surprises you? Webber is a great PF to have along side a PG who can score. He can get you the ball and also do damage on the boards and scoring. I'm looking forward to our next matchup, hopefully both teams have a full lineup without any injuries.. for the first time this season.
     
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    PNG it was the 1st half where he was making over half his shots. In the second half he started bricking forced shots left and right (1-10 at some point). Kobe needs to not try to ride the momentum when there's nothing to ride.
     

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