If there was no salary cap...

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  1. Accord

    Accord JBB JustBBall Member

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    What do you think the current state of the NBA would be like if there was no salary cap and things worked similar to MLB?

    This should stir up some interesting discussion [​IMG].
     
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    kobe, shaq and garnett on the lakers vs. duncan, jason kidd and tmac on the knicks for one thing.

    i think it would be bad for the league. big markets would be able to outspend small markets and it would be a lot less competitive than it's now. you can argue than in baseball it doesn't matter because of the angels and the marlins winning with small payrolls, but in baseball individual players don't have as much effect on games (excluding pitchers). in basketball you get a superteam and it's pretty much guaranteed you'll go long, barring injuries. small market teams would be constantly on the verge of elimination, just like in baseball -on the other hand, this may not be a bad thing.

    the current lakers don't count because of injuries and because it was put together against market rules -payton and malone both took less money than they are worth.

    i honestly like the nfl system the best. there's parity, there's competitiviness. you never know who's going to win it all.
     
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    No one would play for Atlanta that's for sure. That's the only thing they have right now, lots of cap space.

    Oh and Cuban will hire all the max players he can get his hands on.
     
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    I think that it would be a lot like the MLB if there were no salary cap. For one, there would probably be a luxury tax once you hit around the $150mil mark. But, small market teams like the Hawks and others would have to find ways to succeed much like the Twins in the MLB. And, I would kinda go on a limb here and say that the NBDL talent would be a lot more important for developing players much like the farm systems of AA and AAA in baseball. But, yea, it would definitely change the face of the game in a big way.
     
  5. WhiteManCanJump

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    I am guessing that the mavericks and cuban would be the equivalent of the yankees and steinbrenner... they practically already are.
     
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    The league would be messed up. If ther was no cap, than Atlanta would fold, and what would bhe the chances for any expansion team?

    CUban would most def. have the fattest pyaorll in the league. He iwa sone of the most enthusiastic owners who deosn't seem to be letting down. He thinks of it as a game to win more than he does as a business.


    Could somebody clarify the NFL system for me? I know that all profits get evenly divided between all teams int he league, but is that it?
     
  7. Accord

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nkwu:</div><div class="quote_post">I know that all profits get evenly divided between all teams int he league, but is that it?</div>

    So it's like communism :P.
     
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    Blazers would be the team to beat. Paul Allen is the 5th richest man in the world I think he shouldn't have a money with contracts.
     
  9. Accord

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    Shaq would be the first professional athlete to sign a billion dollar contract, LMAO.
     
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    Hrm... I know what a salary cap is...

    But uhm... don't flame me... how exactly does it work?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Accord:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq would be the first professional athlete to sign a billion dollar contract, LMAO.</div>

    Lol.. hahah, yeah. I want a billion dollar contract. [​IMG]
     
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    Oh man, I wouldn't even watch NBA if they had no salary cap.

    There would be a hell of a lot more playing for the Lakers right now, than just GP and Malone, if that were the case. No other team would compete. [​IMG]
     
  13. Accord

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh man, I wouldn't even watch NBA if they had no salary cap.

    There would be a hell of a lot more playing for the Lakers right now, than just GP and Malone, if that were the case. No other team would compete. [​IMG]</div>

    So true, people would only watch the eastern conference finals and not the western or actual NBA finals :P.
     
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    Someone answer my question. ;.;
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe Krazy:</div><div class="quote_post">Hrm... I know what a salary cap is...

    But uhm... don't flame me... how exactly does it work?</div>

    This is a fantastic website which explains in great detail every financial aspect of the NBA: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/

    Here's what they have on salary caps which should answer your question:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">A salary cap is a limit on the amount teams can spend on player contracts, which helps to maintain competitive balance in the league. Without a salary cap, teams with deeper pockets can simply outspend the remaining teams for the better free agents. The basic idea is that a team can only sign a free agent if the total payroll for the team will not exceed the salary cap. So a team with deep pockets is playing on a level playing field with every other team.

    The evidence bears this out: For the 01-02 NBA season, the correlation between team payroll and regular season wins was about 0.13. In other words, there as nearly no correlation between salary and wins. By comparison, MLB (with no salary cap) had a much stronger correlation of 0.43 for its 2002 season.</div>
     
  16. Kobe Krazy

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Accord:</div><div class="quote_post">This is a fantastic website which explains in great detail every financial aspect of the NBA: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/

    Here's what they have on salary caps which should answer your question:</div>

    Thanks, I knew that a salary cap was a limit to how much a team can spend on ones contract.

    I just wasn't sure how it worked, like, some teams could go higher then others for certains reasons or what not? etc, I just wanted the details. [​IMG]

    Thanks again.
     
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    If there was no salary cap, the NBA will fast become the WNBA. Small markets wouldn't stand too long and they'd fold. Big markets or spending-spree owners would still try to make the L look interesting, All Star players are playign for the same team, superstars are in the line-up with stars cashing their checks on the bench. With few teams than ever, a team could make a Boston-like 8 championships in a row run... it's both lame and interesting. In the end, I'd say don't get rid of the cap because I just bought that Cleveland road jersey.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nkwu:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Could somebody clarify the NFL system for me? I know that all profits get evenly divided between all teams int he league, but is that it?</div>

    THe NFL's salary cap is a "hard" cap meaning by no means can they exceed it...while the NBA has a "soft" cap. NBA teams can exceed the cap when signing their own players and signing players to the minimum...that's why they have a luxury tax to discourage going too far over the cap...while there isn't any "going over" in football...once u hit that number, u gotta stop or start cutting players (that's one reason why dynasties are short in football)

    Negoiations are also conducted differently in the NFL (i.e. franchise tag, holdouts etc etc)...but theres no need to get into that stuff becasue its a bit off-topic...
     

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