What to do at small forward?

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  1. aaronr

    aaronr JBB JustBBall Member

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    I'm starting to worry about the combo of Williams and Newble at small forward, so I'm wondering if James ought to move to small forward. That takes care of that problem, but now what about shooting guard? I guess one option would be to split those minutes between Wagner and Brown. I like this option because it gives the two youngsters a chance to demonstrate that they belong in the bigs, but I worry that this might jeopardize the playoffs. I guess this is another way of saying that as little confidence as I have in Williams and Newble, they may be better right now that Wagner and Brown.

    I think I've convinced myself that James should stay at shooting guard.
     
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    mustafa_shakur JBB JustBBall Member

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    Brown can play SF also, and personally I think he would be better suited for that position than SG. If James would move to SF then the only SG we would really have would wagner... not a position I would want to be in.

    I think Kapono still needs more time at SF, and Brown should get a chance.
    Plus, sooner or later Eric Williams has to come out of his doldrums.
     
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    DajuanWagner#2 JBB JustBBall Member

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    yeah, Brown is better suited to play SF than SG, but I don't think he plays none of those positions well though.
     
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    mustafa_shakur JBB JustBBall Member

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    He plays good D and can cash the three... that's something.
     
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    DajuanWagner#2 JBB JustBBall Member

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    His D is ok/good, but I don't think he shoots to well at the threepoint line though, but I havn't seen to much of his threepoint shooting so I'm not the right person to say it's bad, but I think he shoots to much threepointers, and miss to many of em.
     
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    The problem with Brown is that's all he can do. I remember when we got him in the deal, some Boston fans alluded to the fact that unless its a dunk, he can't finish on the fast break at all. I didn't weant to believe that someone with such athletic ability and hops couldn't finish, but I can remember many instances on the fast break where he just couldn't get a simple layup or fingerroll to drop. He just has no touch in close. And I think that was one of the things that Silas wouldn't tolerate. You just can't blow simple baskets, points are far to valuable for this team with are streaky outside shooting.
     
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    If we indeed make the playoffs, Williams will be our starter. He is just in a little slump. He will soon break out of it, he is due.
     
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    It might be a little late in the season to experiment with Brown, also taking Williams out of the starting line-up would be taking mins away from a vet that we need in the line-up. I think we'll have to wait till next year to get a good scoring SF.
     
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    CBBI JBB JustBBall Member

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    Where is this "good scoring SF" going to come from?

    McInnis and Boozer both have options that are going to be picked up.... EWill is a free agent....

    Is some good scoring SF going to take the MLE to play for us?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CBBI:</div><div class="quote_post">Where is this "good scoring SF" going to come from?

    McInnis and Boozer both have options that are going to be picked up.... EWill is a free agent....

    Is some good scoring SF going to take the MLE to play for us?</div>

    Here's my take.

    This year we make the playoffs and Toronto miss them.

    That means no 1st round draft pick!

    Which then means no guarenteed money to a rookie (roughly 3.5 million)

    In my plan I allow Eric Williams to walk. I like his game, but at 30 odd, he's on his decline particulary after an injury plagued career early on.

    So that frees up some money to spend on a free agent!!!

    Stephon Jackson!!!

    Can shoot the 3 ball. Can play defense. Good interior passer. Can be a role player or a 15-18ppg player! This could be our man!
     
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    jbbKing James JBB Banned Member

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    ^ SJAX is going to get paid a lot more money than we could offer him.
     
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    Amherstcavsfan JBB JustBBall Member

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    Not even a good SF, we could even get a good scoring SG *which is alot easier* and then move LeBron over to the SF, giving us a better line-up, their is a number of things we could do. Not having a Draft Pick would be great for this year, then we wouldn't really have to draft a guy who will want alot of money. BTW we still would have a 2nd rounder, and we could take someone who can score *Luke Jackson anyone?*
     
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    Who's Luke Jackson? [​IMG]
     
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    We owe Toronto a second rounder I think from the Lamond Murray trade! Think they may take it this year???
     
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    mustafa_shakur JBB JustBBall Member

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    I really like Luke Jackson, and as much as I would like him as a second round pick...
    we owe toronto our second rounder.
     
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    Luke Jackson is predicted to go in the mid 20s anyway, and the Cavs at this point would be drafting 39th. Of course, if we make the playoffs, it'll be lower than that. If the Cavs don't end up with a pick this year, it won't bother me too much. This isn't as deep a draft as last year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting redscoon:</div><div class="quote_post">Luke Jackson is predicted to go in the mid 20s anyway, and the Cavs at this point would be drafting 39th. Of course, if we make the playoffs, it'll be lower than that. If the Cavs don't end up with a pick this year, it won't bother me too much. This isn't as deep a draft as last year.</div>

    Good point. I was thinking the same thing after I made the post. Doesn't matter either way if don't get a pick though. Not a deep draft either, in that you are correct.
     
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    jbbKing James JBB Banned Member

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    LeBron is who I want at the SF, he is not a shooting guard yet, we need a shooter playing shooting guard (duh)

    I see LeBron as a better Scottie Pippen, and that says a lot, scary actually.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">^ SJAX is going to get paid a lot more money than we could offer him.</div>

    I know he may demand some money, but if we have no first rounder (roughly 3mill saved) and let Williams walk (4mill saved) we have some spare cash to make a stab at him anyway!
     
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    aaronr JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KarmaCav:</div><div class="quote_post">I know he may demand some money, but if we have no first rounder (roughly 3mill saved) and let Williams walk (4mill saved) we have some spare cash to make a stab at him anyway!</div>

    Karma,

    I must admit to not having kept up with Steven Jackson since he left the Nets a few years back, but my recollection is that he was a bit of a head case then and I think I remember that he got benched earlier this season in Atlanta for "conduct detremental to the team" or something like that. That concern aside, I never think of him as a particularly good shooter, though anything is better than Williams and Newble. I have an open mind on the proposition though if, as you say, he's a good defensive player. Aren't you worried that he might not be quite the right chemical agent? Where did you get the info that he can play defense and has a decent floor game? Interested but still skeptical.
     

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