Why Doesn't Shaq Dominate The League In Rebounds?

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    why doesnt shaq dominate the league in rebounds?

    seriously...the guy is a monster, hes the biggest guy in the game, hes very athletic, incredibly atheltic for a guy his size, he spends all his time around the basket...the other night against phoenix, who has nobody who can match him on the glass, he had only 5 rbs?!?! then the next night, he had 8, and against washington, who is even weaker on the inside, he only had 2 REBOUNDS!!! i cant get my mind around that

    how is it possible, that shaq is only averaging 10 boards a game? if ben wallace can average 13-15 a game, cant the daddy average 20?
     
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    I've questioned it myself, and not until I watched Shaq live did I see how little intensity he plays with throughout a game. He doesn't go after any rebounds the way Ben Wallace and some of the smaller bigs in the league do. He's more interested in letting another Laker grab the board, while he sprints down to set up for offense. Also, Shaq likes going for blocks and gets out of position to rebound when he does. He's more than capable of getting 20/20 a night, but he just doesn't have the defensive intensity to dominate the glass.
     
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    Exactly , the main reason for that is getting down the court to contribute in the offensive end. Intensity? maybe , but you will see a lot of effort when he has the opportunity to grab an offensive rebound.
     
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    shaq can bully his way into position anytime he wants...id say making sure his team secures the rebound is more important then getting down court.

    just imo though
     
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    It's simple. He's not as aggressive to the ball as he used to be. He'll grab the ball if it's right in front of him, but he won't got out of his way for a rebound. I'd say at least 3 or 4 a game probably come offensivley, off his own put backs or missed shots. Also, of course players like Ben Wallace who are monsters on the board, are more athletic, younger, and like I said earlier, more aggressive to the ball. Shaq can't move around like he used to, so I don't expect him to dominate the boards.
     
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    Shaq and Yao should be leading the league in rebounds per game. Like Shapecity said though, they don't go after rebounds with any intensity. Yes Shaq should be getting many more rebounds a game, and probably should be leading the league in rebounds considering how much time he spends in the paint.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">It's simple. He's not as aggressive to the ball as he used to be. He'll grab the ball if it's right in front of him, but he won't got out of his way for a rebound. I'd say at least 3 or 4 a game probably come offensivley, off his own put backs or missed shots. Also, of course players like Ben Wallace who are monsters on the board, are more athletic, younger, and like I said earlier, more aggressive to the ball. Shaq can't move around like he used to, so I don't expect him to dominate the boards.</div>

    what? i dont buy that...shaq is still in GREAT game shape, and can move around excellently. id go as far as to say, he hasnt even lost a step...he runs the floor better then most big men, and hes still VERY athletic and pretty darn young too hes only 31.

    sorry man, those sound like excuses to me, i think it boils down to intensity and effort. in the playoffs, i bet his rebounds will go up
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">what? i dont buy that...shaq is still in GREAT game shape, and can move around excellently. id go as far as to say, he hasnt even lost a step...he runs the floor better then most big men, and hes still VERY athletic and pretty darn young too hes only 31.

    sorry man, those sound like excuses to me, i think it boils down to intensity and effort. in the playoffs, i bet his rebounds will go up</div>

    Shaq is not in GREAT shape at all. He does not move around excellently either. Both of those are wrong. Shaq is lazy, most of the time he'll bairly get off the ground to get a rebound. He hasn't lost a step? Are you kidding me? I don't like to say it in terms of "lost a step" but he hasn't been the more dominating player that he used to be. Yes, Shaq runs the floor I will have to agree with that, but he is not as athletic as he used to be, nor as aggressive to the ball as he used to be, as I stated in the first post. Just reading the leading rebounders, it should come to no suprise...KG, Duncan, Big Ben in the top 3. All hard working players, all younger than Shaq, and can move around and run the floor better.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq is not in GREAT shape at all. He does not move around excellently either. Both of those are wrong. Shaq is lazy, most of the time he'll bairly get off the ground to get a rebound. He hasn't lost a step? Are you kidding me? I don't like to say it in terms of "lost a step" but he hasn't been the more dominating player that he used to be. Yes, Shaq runs the floor I will have to agree with that, but he is not as athletic as he used to be, nor as aggressive to the ball as he used to be, as I stated in the first post. Just reading the leading rebounders, it should come to no suprise...KG, Duncan, Big Ben in the top 3. All hard working players, all younger than Shaq, and can move around and run the floor better.</div>

    i agree that shaq isnt as dominant anymore, but you've pretty much just said it yourself, that its just due to lazyness. i guess i dont see enough lakers games to have as good an opinion as you do on shaq's play, but from what iv seen and heard, hes still as atheltic as he was 2 yrs ago when they won a championship, and he was finals mvp. if hes lost a step..how big of a step could he have lost in only 2 seasons??

    i guess my point originally was that shaq is being lazy...no excuse for that
     
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    Yeah. Alot of it has to do with shaq simply being lazy. I recall many times where the ball bounces off the rim and is only about 4 feet away from him but he doesnt even attempt to go after it. If you are 7 feet and 300 something pounds, you should be leading the league in rebounds. He just doesnt have the drive for it.
     
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    Even when he was younger, announcers said he's not a great position rebounder. His rookie year was the highest with 13.9, he just relied on his athletisim and size. If he did have that intensity, he would be a 20+ rebounder like Chamberlain and Russel.
     
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    he doesn't dominate the boards cause he doesn't have to. the Lakers rely on pionts to win games. sure defense wins games and defensive rebounds will win games too. but all shaq does is wait in the paint for the ball to come to him. Dunks and put-backs are the only thing that he can do. the nba should make a new award called the paint-guard award shaq will take it. cause all his points are in the paint. noooe can stop him causehes so big and fat that they cant move him. so shaq is the most dominant center in the nba*** Asterisks=in the paint.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting worldchamps9903:</div><div class="quote_post">the Lakers rely on pionts to win games. </div>

    LOL, I love when I see your name for the last post, you always come in here making no sense. Who doesn't rely on "pionts" [​IMG] to win games?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">but all shaq does is wait in the paint for the ball to come to him. Dunks and put-backs are the only thing that he can do. the nba should make a new award called the paint-guard award shaq will take it. cause all his points are in the paint.</div>

    So what is Shaq supposed to do? Take 20 ft jumpers? Are you trying to discredit him because all of his points are in the paint? There's a reason that their called BIG MEN.
     
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    ahahaha paint-guard award wtf..
     

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