If I could have any five players in the league as my starting five, it would be this: PG - Jason Kidd SG - Ray Allen SF - Peja Stojakavic PF - Kevin Garnett C - Tim Duncan I think these guys would complement eachother the best. I know Tim Duncan doesn't play center for the Spurs, but he has a center's game (strong post game, blocks shots, rebounds). His ability to hit the midrange shot and superior passing and ball-handling puts him ahead of Shaq for me. While Kobe or T-Mac are dominant players, they control the ball to much and would take away too much from the other's guys game. Anyone think they have a better starting five?
Honestly....there should only be two types of lineups. Which is.... PG- Kidd SG- Kobe SF - KG PF- Duncan C- Shaq The second lineup would be possibly putting Baron at the point or T-Mac in Kobe's place, and that's about it.
PG: Jason Kidd SG: Ron Artest SF: Kevin Garnett PF: Ben Wallace C: Shaquille O'Neal I primarily picked this starting five because they'd be so dominate defensively that they'd only have to put up 80 on the scoreboard. Could you imagine that? Jason Kidd and Ron Artest would be the best possible backcourt defensive duo, and Ben, Shaq, and Garnett sending back every shot from the front court? Imagine if they ran a 2-3 zone, Kidd and Artest up top with those three bigmen in post? This would be the greatest defensive team in the history of western civilization as Bill Walton would say.
PG-Allen Iverson SG-kobe bryant SF-vince carter PF-kevin garnett C-shaquille o'neal all offensive team
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">PG-Allen Iverson SG-kobe bryant SF-vince carter PF-kevin garnett C-shaquille o'neal</div> PERFECT. Thats basically my starting 5. I'd put AI over Kidd, because AI can be just as good of a PG as Kidd...Well not really as good as Kidd PG wise, but he's basically the best passing SG in the league right now, if he had better players around him he'd probably be averaging 10 assists, and on top of that he's a MUCH MUCH better scorer that JKidd. I couldnt put anyone over Kobe. Maybe Tmac, but he more of a one on one player. So I put Kobe by default. And on top of that Kobe play's DEFENSE. Carter over McGrady/Pierce. Simple VC loves to pass the ball and he can create for himself and others, plus he play's much more calm and stabled than Tmac and Pierce. TMAC and Pierce often play like there only 1 sec left on the clock. KG over Duncan. I personally think KG is a better player than Duncan. KG is a better all around player than TD. TD is more dominant in the paint, but KG is more athletic and he can hit the perimeter shot. He simply got a better all around game that TD. Shaq...Who else....Bradely?
PG-Kidd-He makes plays, he makes everyone around him better SG-Kobe-He is clutch, hard worker, plays both O and D. SF-KG-3 letters...MVP PF-Duncan-KNows what it takes to win the MVP and Championship awards. C-Shaq-Most Dominant PLayer in the Game
Starting 5- Ever since this year I've been able to become a real fan of Kobe and TMac. As much as I like VC, they seem better at the overall game, including boards and not turning it over. As much as I like Kobe, I'm being bias as I'm a big fan when I say I want Redd as my starting SG. So here it is. PG- J-Kidd, undoubtly one of the best the game has ever had. He can make plays for virtually anybody. Unselfish and the best at what he does. SG- Michael Redd, one of my favorite players, a natural born scorer. I wouldn't mind having Kobe here either, he steals very well and has some real awesome offense to boot. SF- TMac, rebounds very well, has a size advantage over Carter, not injury prone, might need some attitude adjustments but it's understanding. Another natural born scorer, paired with defense, he even responds to zone well enough now. He might hog the ball occasionally though, being the only superstar of his team. PF- KG, my favorite player of all time apart from Magic and Bird, no question. One of the best the game has ever produced, the pinnacle of being versatile. C- TD, very good attitude and very capable of playing this position. I'd have him over Shaq any day, unless Shaq ended up acting like Duncan in the personality sense. TD wasn't MVP back to back for nothing.
PG- Allen Iverson - Better scorer than Kidd, a great passer, but still has the ability to hit the shots he needs to. SG- Tracy McGrady - I picked T-Mac over Kobe because I believe that he is better all-around player; a better scorer, a better rebounder, (maybe) a better passer.. all he has to work on is being a better team player. SF- Andrei Kirilenko - Most of you will be dumbfounded by this choice, but his "do-everything" ability would make him a perfect fit for the small forward on this team - tall, long, and quick enough to guard smaller players and get steals, but big enough to guard the post and play great help side D when needed. He has also improved his range, and can put 20 on the board any given night. PF- Kevin Garnett - Isn't it obvious? AT LEAST 20/10/5 every night, can play all kinds of D and is working on his leadership. C- Tim Duncan - A proven winner and more than big enough to play center, can play d and his midrange shot is deadly. Another 20/10/5 threat on every night, would be the perfect compliment to this already great team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WhiteManCanJump:</div><div class="quote_post">PG- Allen Iverson - Better scorer than Kidd, a great passer, but still has the ability to hit the shots he needs to. SG- Tracy McGrady - I picked T-Mac over Kobe because I believe that he is better all-around player; a better scorer, a better rebounder, (maybe) a better passer.. all he has to work on is being a better team player. SF- Andrei Kirilenko - Most of you will be dumbfounded by this choice, but his "do-everything" ability would make him a perfect fit for the small forward on this team - tall, long, and quick enough to guard smaller players and get steals, but big enough to guard the post and play great help side D when needed. He has also improved his range, and can put 20 on the board any given night. PF- Kevin Garnett - Isn't it obvious? AT LEAST 20/10/5 every night, can play all kinds of D and is working on his leadership. C- Tim Duncan - A proven winner and more than big enough to play center, can play d and his midrange shot is deadly. Another 20/10/5 threat on every night, would be the perfect compliment to this already great team.</div> first of all, tmac is NOT a better all around player than kobe. Kobe is a better passer,defender and possibly scorer if he gets his own team. second i woul put Kg at small forward and timmy at PF while shaq is at center, and take a risk at Allen Iverson at PG
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BlueByU:</div><div class="quote_post">first of all, tmac is NOT a better all around player than kobe. Kobe is a better passer,defender and possibly scorer if he gets his own team. </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">SG- Tracy McGrady - I picked T-Mac over Kobe because <font size="7">I believe </font> that he is better all-around player; a better scorer, a better rebounder, (maybe) a better passer.. </div> My opinion buddy, we are all entitled to it
All good lineups. I think mine (Kidd, Ray, Peja, KG, TD) would have the best perimeter game by far. The biggest weakness would be lack of a real defensive stopper on the perimeter. All these guys are unselfish, and no how to play within a team-concept (though Peja may not rack up assists in Sacramento, he knows how to get his points without dominating the ball). I say, offensively, they'd be the best lineup. They could have some problems playing against a Kobe or T-Mac on defense, but I'd take my chances.
PG: LeBron James - He's much younger than JKidd for one. He's also a better shooter and he's a great passer also. Not too mention he can create for himself and than he can draw more double teams and than get it out to the open people. Plus, overall, he is a better player than both Kidd and AI I think because he can do it all. Iverson is more of a scorer and Kidd can do a little of everything, but, he can rebound, score, and pass. That's why I take him. SG: Kobe Bryant - Probably the best all around player at his position in the NBA. He's got the uncanny ability to just take the game over all by himself. He also can create shots by himself and he hits shots that, for anyone else, would be next to impossible. Plus, at the end of the game, there isn't anyone in the NBA right now who I would rather have. He has became the best clutch player in the league today. Plus, if his offensive ability isn't good enough for you, 2 time First Team Defense in the NBA is another damn good reason for him. SF: Tracy McGrady - I would take him for basically the same reasons as Kobe. Great shooter, can create for himself, pretty good in the clutch, good passer, etc., etc. Only thing about him is that he is nowhere near as good on "d" as Kobe is. PF: Kevin Garnett - Almost impossible for other PFs to guard due to his quickness and athleticism. He is a tenacious rebounder and has great range for a person his size. Not too mention he can create shots for himself due to his height and where he releases the ball. Yea, those are about the reasons. C: Shaquille O' Neal - Most dominant player in the game today. That's about all that needs to be said. You have to change the way you play defense just to guard him and than he changes the way you have to play offense when he is in the post. He is impossible for anyone to guard due to his size and strength. But, it all goes back to my first statement. That's really the only reason I need to take him. Honorable Mentions: Jason Kidd (PG), Tim Duncan (PF/C), Baron Davis (PG), Allen Iverson (G), Yao Ming ©, Peja Stojakavic (SF), Chris Webber (PF)
Jason Kidd Tracy McGrady Andrei Kirilenko Kevin Garnett Shaquille O'Neal All are good passers for their positions, capable scorers and good defensive players(T-Mac is debateable).
PG: J-Kidd Because you need an unselfish player on a stacked team like this. SG: Kobe because he is a better defender than t-mac. SF: Vince Carter because he has great passing ability and can create for himself very well at times. PF: Kg.... ... ... ... MVP C: Shaq... Unstoppable.
pg- JKidd- You have to have the best passer in the game to deliver the ball to all of these talented players. JKidd is a pass first point, which is what this team would need. sg- Kobe (without the shoulder problem)- I still think Kobe is still slightly better than TMac. Even more is the fact that he is first and foremost a winner. sf- Ron Artest- This guy is the best on the ball defender in the NBA. He will take all of the franchise players everywhere and impose his will upon them any place anytime anywhere. pf- Kevin Garnett- MVP this year, can't say anymore than that. c- Shaquille O'neal- Tough choice between him and Duncan but Shaq is still dominant and other teams just can't match up on him. This team leaves a lot in terms of shooting but the defence and all around offensive game will kill everyone.
Only way you guys are saying Kobe is a better defender than T-Mac is that obviously you guys have seen Kobe play more than T-Mac (obviously during playoff series and finals.) I myself , I beleive T-Mac is a better player/defender than Kobe because I see them play both every game. T-Mac is taller. That's the only difference between Kobe and T-Mac that makes T-Mac better than Kobe , however I will have both on my starting 5: PG - Jason Kidd/AI I don't know yet between those 2 , AI can really pass the ball well and is obviously a better shooter. SG - Tracy Mcgrady SF - Kobe Bryant PF - Kevin Garnett C - Shaq who can win against them? lol
PG- Steve Nash SG- Bruce Bowen SF- Ron Artest PF- Tim Duncan C- Yao Ming This lineup may not be the best compilation of talent, but I think its the perfect fit of great defensive players(Duncan,Bowen, Artest), outside shooters (Nash, Bowen), and post players(Ming and Duncan). It also has two great passers with Ming and Nash. I think this team could beat just about any team anyone else makes.
Everyone is saying Allen Iverson is a better shoot than jkidd (e.g)<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">AI can really pass the ball well and is obviously a better shooter.</div> Umm... AI scores more, if thats what you mean. He doesn't exactly have a great shooting percentage, as a matter of fact 39% would designate him a pretty bad shooter. Also Jason Kidd has gotten a lot better at shooting over the years, anyhow heres my five. PG-Jason Kidd-stats are filled SG-Kobe Bryant-more stats and passing and D and ..... SF-Ron Artest-you need a perimeter defender, andhe can also score PF-Kevin Garnett-The best not 20-10-5, more like 25-15-5, best all around... MVP C-Shaq-dominates anyone, unless you foul him. Or I could pick Yao Ming, he seems to be coming into himself, he's not exactly dominated shaq this year, but hes put up better numberss than him when they play eachother, but only by a slim margin.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Umm... AI scores more, if thats what you mean. He doesn't exactly have a great shooting percentage, as a matter of fact 39% would designate him a pretty bad shooter. Also Jason Kidd has gotten a lot better at shooting over the years, anyhow heres my five.</div> Jason Kidd FG% isnt so hot either. But this is a pure FACT, Jason Kidd DOES NOT have a better jumpshot than Allen Iverson. Im not saying Iverson jumper is WAY better than kid, cause he himself isnt a great shooter, but his shot is better than Kidd. BTW do you see the type of jumpers that AI has to take, most of Jason Kidd jumpers are semi-open, they'ren not contested the way Iverson jumpers are contested. If Jason Kidd had to take the type of shots AI has to take he would be shooting like 34-35%. AI is known for for his scoring than passing, so the D is always pressuring him. Unlike JKidd who is more of a passer the D can only play man to man defense with him knowing that he can dish it out in a split second, unlike AI who constantly getting double teamed and rarely has enough daylight to take a clear shot.
