1st or 2nd Year Players as the next KG/TMac

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  1. jbbKing James

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Accord:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah... if they trade Boozer and Z.</div>

    Well, you displayed your NBA knowledge well with that statement.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Lamar Odom is going to be the next KG.</div>

    That is just being too biased, Odom is not a KG, will never be a KG, and no one will ever be a KG. Garnett is a once and a lifetime player.

    Odom has been an injured pot smoking head case. Sure he has had a nice season, but he has to play like this longer before he earns respect from me and many others.

    Clippers wanted to send Odom to the Cavs, but we rejected and asked for Miles.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dre:</div><div class="quote_post">as far as being an all-around cat like KG,I would nominate Chris Bosh. this dude is a stud and in a couple years he's gonna be kickin' the NBA's ass.

    Bosh has the skills to be an all-around,impact player,like the Big Ticket.</div>

    I agree, Bosh has the best chance of being the next KG...Their rookie numbers are also amazingly similar

    Their stats as 19 year-old rookies:

    Garnett:..10.4 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.8 apg, 1.6 bpg, 1.1 spg, 1.4 tpg
    Bosh:......11.2 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 1.0 apg, 1.4 bpg, 0.7 spg, 1.4 tpg


    I also think Wade is the next T-mac but to a smaller scale...
     
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    I don't think there are any players out there with the KG mold right now. How many seven footers do you know can guard the 5-4-3-2-1 spot? Chris Bosh? He's good but in my opinion, will never be as versatile as KG. When you're comparing rookie numbers keep in mind Bosh had some collegiate experience coming in while KG didn't. To me players who have the potential of ascending to KG or Tmac status in the own way are Lebron and Amare.
     
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    what about kobe?

    oh wait, hes on a different level then ANY of those players you people mentioned
     
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    what about kobe? dude...

    i think chris bosh the next KG, and Wade and LeBron next T-Mac / or Kobe ( for you krazygreen!! [​IMG])
     
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    Kobe's up there, but nobody's having a better season than KG. His 62 point break out notwithstanding, TMac's performance has actually dropped from last year. Sometimes I think he lacks the motivation or leadership to put a team behind his back and carry them. I mean losing games is one thing, but losing however many straight while playing in the "Leastern" conference is another.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TracyMcWizzle:</div><div class="quote_post">what about kobe? dude...

    i think chris bosh the next KG, and Wade and LeBron next T-Mac / or Kobe ( for you krazygreen!! [​IMG])</div>



    haha its ok dude, kobe scratches the haters off with his greatness =)

    im willing to admit tmac is awesome, while tmac fans will never say the same about kobe.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DonJuan:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe's up there, but nobody's having a better season than KG. His 62 point break out notwithstanding, TMac's performance has actually dropped from last year. Sometimes I think he lacks the motivation or leadership to put a team behind his back and carry them. I mean losing games is one thing, but losing however many straight while playing in the "Leastern" conference is another.</div>


    you mean tmac had 62 points, not kg

    and how does that reflect anything? last season when kobe's lakers went 3-9, the whole world was calling kobe a fluke, not a team leader, etc. etc....well hell, going 1-19, thats pretty damn horrible to me, especially in an eastern conference, so tmac could score 60, 70, 80, 100 for all i care, but his team record proves that he cant lead a team for jack....individually AWESOME player, but thats where it stops. he doesnt have the heart, the motivation, he laughs during losses with his teammates on the bench, he makes jokes, he doesnt take it seriously. if he had taken 15 games as seriious as he should of this season without giving a green light to coaches about "I HATE THE ZONE", then his effort would have MAYBE taken him and his team to the playoffs.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DonJuan:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think there are any players out there with the KG mold right now. How many seven footers do you know can guard the 5-4-3-2-1 spot? Chris Bosh? He's good but in my opinion, will never be as versatile as KG. When you're comparing rookie numbers keep in mind Bosh had some collegiate experience coming in while KG didn't. To me players who have the potential of ascending to KG or Tmac status in the own way are Lebron and Amare.</div>

    I'm not saying Bosh is going to be the next KG, I said out of all the young players, he has "the best chance."

    No too players are completely alike, and I doubt Bosh will ever be as versitlie as KG, but you can't knock Bosh for not being able to do something at 19 that KG can do at 25...KG couldn't guard positions 1-5 when he was 19 years old either...


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Krazygreen:</div><div class="quote_post">you mean tmac had 62 points, not kg

    and how does that reflect anything? last season when kobe's lakers went 3-9, the whole world was calling kobe a fluke, not a team leader, etc. etc....well hell, going 1-19, thats pretty damn horrible to me, especially in an eastern conference, so tmac could score 60, 70, 80, 100 for all i care, but his team record proves that he cant lead a team for jack....individually AWESOME player, but thats where it stops. he doesnt have the heart, the motivation, he laughs during losses with his teammates on the bench, he makes jokes, he doesnt take it seriously. if he had taken 15 games as seriious as he should of this season without giving a green light to coaches about "I HATE THE ZONE", then his effort would have MAYBE taken him and his team to the playoffs.</div>
    ^ ummm..I think u misunderstood him...read again [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Krazygreen:</div><div class="quote_post">you mean tmac had 62 points, not kg

    and how does that reflect anything? last season when kobe's lakers went 3-9, the whole world was calling kobe a fluke, not a team leader, etc. etc....well hell, going 1-19, thats pretty damn horrible to me, especially in an eastern conference, so tmac could score 60, 70, 80, 100 for all i care, but his team record proves that he cant lead a team for jack....individually AWESOME player, but thats where it stops. he doesnt have the heart, the motivation, he laughs during losses with his teammates on the bench, he makes jokes, he doesnt take it seriously. if he had taken 15 games as seriious as he should of this season without giving a green light to coaches about "I HATE THE ZONE", then his effort would have MAYBE taken him and his team to the playoffs.</div>

    Okay, you just regurgiated my point. Yes, I meant TMac not KG, if you read my post again you can see a comma right before I said "Tmac".....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Krazygreen:</div><div class="quote_post">you mean tmac had 62 points, not kg

    and how does that reflect anything? last season when kobe's lakers went 3-9, the whole world was calling kobe a fluke, not a team leader.</div>


    The reason Kobe went 3-9 is because the Lakers were built around Shaq not Kobe.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"I HATE THE ZONE"</div>

    I do too


    Tmac has a horrible team, If you were to put a leader like Vince on the Magic I don't think he would do good either. If Vince and Tmac were to switch teams for a season Tmac would have the better record because at least he has some decent players. Even if you were to put KG on the magic and compare to T-Mac with Raptors T-Mac would have the better record.


    Oh, by the way....

    Mello- Next T-Mac
    Bosh- Next KG
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not saying Bosh is going to be the next KG, I said out of all the young players, he has "the best chance."

    No too players are completely alike, and I doubt Bosh will ever be as versitlie as KG, but you can't knock Bosh for not being able to do something at 19 that KG can do at 25...KG couldn't guard positions 1-5 when he was 19 years old either...



    ^ ummm..I think u misunderstood him...read again [​IMG]</div>

    didnt misunderstand, just agreeing with what he partially said and stating my opinion.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AirJordan:</div><div class="quote_post">The reason Kobe went 3-9 is because the Lakers were built around Shaq not Kobe.



    I do too


    Tmac has a horrible team, If you were to put a leader like Vince on the Magic I don't think he would do good either. If Vince and Tmac were to switch teams for a season Tmac would have the better record because at least he has some decent players. Even if you were to put KG on the magic and compare to T-Mac with Raptors T-Mac would have the better record.


    Oh, by the way....

    Mello- Next T-Mac
    Bosh- Next KG</div>


    the lakers were built around shaq...AND KOBE, get your facts straight, dont make me spit out stats, if your an educated basketball fan, you shouldnt even question this.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Krazygreen:</div><div class="quote_post">the lakers were built around shaq...AND KOBE, get your facts straight, dont make me spit out stats, if your an educated basketball fan, you shouldnt even question this.</div>

    tough crowd [​IMG]
     
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    Its easy to jump on the bandwagon of lebron james and carmelo anthony, even kevin garnett because hes having a good season...

    its anothing thing being a loyal fan and sticking through the turmoil kobe and the lakers have through this season and supporting them....

    honestly, people dont talk about tmac until he has a 62 point game? your kidding me right? where were you when he was struggling to win 1 game...of course, people forgot about tmac, but 62 points, brings fans attention back....with me its different, i will never jump on the lebron or carmelo wagon, even if they win rings, scoring titles, mvps, they could always kiss my ass.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AirJordan:</div><div class="quote_post">The reason Kobe went 3-9 is because the Lakers were built around Shaq not Kobe.



    I do too


    Tmac has a horrible team, If you were to put a leader like Vince on the Magic I don't think he would do good either. If Vince and Tmac were to switch teams for a season Tmac would have the better record because at least he has some decent players. Even if you were to put KG on the magic and compare to T-Mac with Raptors T-Mac would have the better record.


    Oh, by the way....

    Mello- Next T-Mac
    Bosh- Next KG</div>

    I think Vince would do a little better with the current Magic team that Tmac has, look at the Raptors lineup in the beginning of the season, Milt playing most of the mins at the point, Jerome, AD and Curry starting, and Carter and Bosh the only players in double firgures, yet the Raptors were a .500 team.

    Tmac with AD, Jerome, Milt and Curry probably would'nt win as much as VC did in the beginning of the season b/c Lue, Giricek, Juwan and Gooden (he was starting then) aren't really less talented and are all better scorers.

    I think Tmac laughing on the bench and all that now is because they all know its over, maybe in the beginning of the season you could say he isn't taking it serious, but right now who cares really. Even the management is talking about Okafor, and they're all looking at the draft.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Krazygreen:</div><div class="quote_post">Its easy to jump on the bandwagon of lebron james and carmelo anthony, even kevin garnett because hes having a good season...

    its anothing thing being a loyal fan and sticking through the turmoil kobe and the lakers have through this season and supporting them....

    honestly, people dont talk about tmac until he has a 62 point game? your kidding me right? where were you when he was struggling to win 1 game...of course, people forgot about tmac, but 62 points, brings fans attention back....with me its different, i will never jump on the lebron or carmelo wagon, even if they win rings, scoring titles, mvps, they could always kiss my ass.</div>

    Just because you give someone props doesn't maen you're jumping on their bandwagon... of course if Carmelo or Lebron win rings, they will get more attention...If you shun them forever and ignore their accomplishments, you are being narrow-minded...
     
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    Kwame is in his third year, and I thnk a lot of people think he is a bust...but I watch him night in and night out...he has developed a little 15 foot Jumper, a turn around jumper from the post...he has blazing quickness for a big man, the only thing that I think hurts him is his hand size, they are pretty small so he cant handle some passes..He is averaging 10.5 ppg and 7.1 rebounds...He only gets like 7 shots a game, Next year he should average about 15-17 ppg being the second option on the Wizards.
     
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    I don't see why everyone wants to and compares all these young phenoms to NBA stars. I guarentee you Lebron and Carmelo don't want to be known as the next T-Mac or the next KG. These players want to go out and make their own names for themselves. I mean these guys can have the same skills or the same style of play that NBA stars have however there is no way they will be the next T-Mac or whoever you want to say.

    I think the question should be who are NBA youngsters who have the potential to become NBA Stars in the future instead of who will be the next T-Mac or KG. Here are a few off of my head:

    1. Yao Ming - He has the size and the skills to be a dominant center in this league for many years.
    2. Lebron James - Probably the most hyped up player ever coming into the NBA however he has backed it up by his play on the court.
    3. Carmelo Anthony - He is a fundamentally sound player who is leading his team into a playoff race as a rookie. I can expect Carmelo and Lebron to be a rivalry that will last their entire careers.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Just because you give someone props doesn't maen you're jumping on their bandwagon... of course if Carmelo or Lebron win rings, they will get more attention...If you shun them forever and ignore their accomplishments, you are being narrow-minded...</div>


    its one thing to give props, its another to forget that the league already has established stars, and try to make these guys the focal point of the league, when u have players who have busted their ass for many years to get to where they are, and have these two guys get a free pass to superstardom, thats ridiculous to me.....jerseys sell well because if one person has one, everyone has to have one. merchendise, endorsements, i mean, this guy is just nothing more then a MARKETED athlete

    he plays 40 minutes a game, how do his stats reflect through those 40 minutes, low fg shooting, 20 points, 5 boards and assists, come on man, RONALD FLIP MURRAY was throwing better numbers up playing 40 minutes in the start of the season for the sonics. give me 40 minutes to be the facilitator, pg, sg, and sf of a team, shoot as many times as i want, and ill make 40% of my shots and distribute 5 assists. ridiculous hype....kobe and tmac played 15 minutes a game as a rookie, their stats are low because of that.
     

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