I thought at the beginning too that KO is overrated, but who really cares? And as to KJ and CourtVision's little "debate" ... There are fans that dont really know the game and expect too much but we shouldnt blame them, these are probably beginners, I dont believe any of you were as good as in bball skills as youare know. We should accept everybody, cause we're a big team man. and yeah i wouldnt call any bro dumb either even if he says "vince is the best", we know that there's no "best" like that so its just an emotional statement rather than objective. We should take it easy rather than overreacting causing little fights between us.
Hey eginobili I hear ya. We're not starting fights, we're simply stating what we actually see when we watch games, and no RipHamFan, I do not see even minimal set plays from KO's system with or without new players, find a way it kinda looks like pass the ball to Vince on every possession with everybody standing around waiting for Vince to throw the ball out so they can make a shot. This my friend is not offense. Oh, and there is also no defense that I hear about as well. We expected defense with KO am I right? With the trade the sent AD and JYD over to Bull land I was expecting the defense to be the same since KO IS A DEFENSE COACH. Whatever. It's no wonder Vince is in the game and looks like he doesn't care, nobody gets into his face. KO is hardnosed without the guts to insult his stars and challenge them. We expect this and that from them rookie or not (and you know what, assistant coach for other teams will not make you a rookie head coach, you can't use that excuse when New Jersey had won so many games in a row with their new head rookie coach). You know what, let's also blame Tony Brown. Yes, you all heard me, isn't he our assistant coach too? Where is the O from his coaching. Something smells in Toronto and it's our crap coaches. I for one am waiting for the firing of O'Neill. I'll hail it. O'Neill sucks, O'Neill sucks, O'Neill sucks. Oh sorry, Tony Brown sucks, Tony Brown sucks, Tony Brown sucks. Bring it on.
Actually if there is one thing that I am happy with the Raptors is their defence. Even though KO is waaay too stubborn to use any kind of zone, the Raptors defence has been the factor that keeps them in games. If anything its the offence that needs a huge makeover. No need to get angry but everyone (except for the fans of course) is to blame for the Raptors losses. From the GM down to the 12th man everyone is responsible.
Hollagr8, it?s a wonder why I?m taking anything seriously from you seeing how you created such an ignorant and thought-less thread. If you want me to blame someone, then I blame myself for trying to engage in a discussion with you in the first place. Anyways, it seems as though we?ve already said everything we wanted to about the whole KO issue. There?s no point continuing this discussion when both sides seem to be restating arguments. I will leave by saying one last statement about the whole issue: I do not think K O?Neill is flaw-less nor is he the best coach around. I just feel the need to stick up for the guy against the haters who unfairly criticize and blame our problems on him. Instead of focusing your attention on the faults of our coach, take a step back and look at the bigger picture. We have way more important issues to deal with and pinning the blame on certain people will only distract us from finding a real solution.
Hey RipHamFan, I only started the thread to invoke some emotion from some people, not get all ignorant, which I can because I care for our team immensely and have been a rap fan since the day Stoudamire was crying after being selected since we missed out on Ed O'Bannon. Anyways, I got emotion from you all so that was key and cool. I don't want people to say that we are losing because of the way things are. I think that in itself doesn't require much thinking and that we are giving up. Thank you all for sharing emotion into this thread though, you are some caring fans
^ So I?m guessing you don?t want people to ?blame? you for creating this thread because you care so much for the team. All too ironic don?t you think? Okay, I?m sorry. I know this thread should be ending soon so I?ll be on my way.
Can we close this thread? Somehow its getting a bit of an emotional thread with people defending their opinions about blaming people .... only a suggestion
