Cavs May Target Stephen Jackson

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  1. mike18946

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">According to reports out of Cleveland, the Cavaliers may target ex-Spur Stephen Jackson who now plays for the Atlanta Hawks.

    Jackson, who scored 42 points in Atlanta's win Friday and 30 against the Cavaliers last week.

    Jackson, a 6-foot-8 swingman who won a ring last season with the Spurs, is expected to opt out of his $1 million per season deal this summer in order to test free-agency.
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    If he doesn't end up in San Antonio, I would love to see him in Cleveland. He would be the prefect player for your team.
     
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    Lots of fans seem to think this is a great move too.

    I like him because hisnshot is not bad from deep, he runs the floor, but more important attacks the basket and knows how to finish.

    McInnis, James, Jackson, Boozer, and Ilgauskas

    I must admit, seems VERY interesting.
     
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    What you'd want from Jackson is his knack for hitting big time shots. For a young team like the Cavs, he can be solid.
     
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    Sounds like this will be a good signing, he has 3pt range, and played with Duncan so he knows how to dump it into the post. Whenever Ilgauskas cant get good post position, he can dish it to SJax for the open 3.
     
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    I should be the Cavaliers GM. I've been saying this for ages. Perfect foil for James and Z. I watched him numerously for San Antonio, and he is soooo good at interior passing and shooting off the ball swinging the court and off kick backs. His overall game may have improved in Atlanta as he has been forced to take a more active role in the offense. Good handler, post passer and shooter. What more could Cleveland want at small forward?
     
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    plus he's a hothead that can back it up with game. we have players, and we have hotheads, but we don't have anyone yet with the game to back up the talk like jackson can. i like this move, he could be the 3 for our championship run next year!
     
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    Can Boozer and him Co-Exist??

    They almost got in to it in Atlanta...
     
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    haha they really did, but I think that was just a heat-of-the-moment thing, boozer was just sticking up for his teammate, which is a GREAT thing and shows our team is finally becoming a TEAM (I mean even ira got into it). I think jackson is a great hard competitor and can bring a whole new level of energy to our team so he could be great. I liked how after that little altercation with james/boozer in the cavs-hawks game, jackson didn't back down but actually stepped it up a few notches and took over the game and nearly handed the cavs a loss. That sort of fire could be a great addition to our team.

    If we do get jackson, we'll have newble, nailon, and jackson, all on the hawks in the past year or so
     
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    16.3 points, 4.4 rebounds, 3 assists, 1.58 steals, 103 3PT makes

    Looks like the all around game that I enjoy to watch.
     
  10. mike18946

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    He is also a clutch player, mainly in the playoffs. Him and Steve Kerr basically killed Dallas's chances from forcing a game 7 in the western conference finals last year.

    His nick name is Buckets for a reason.
     
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    Another plus to going after Jackson is that he shouldn't cost as much as other FA's to fill that role for the Cavs.
    I think Jackson's career is still on the rise. He made a bad mistake by coming straight out of HS but has worked hard and paid his dues in the minor leagues and bouncing around early in his career to become a major factor in the NBA. He does have some versatility and his outside shot would be a huge addition. I also like the fact that he played with a disciplined championship team in the Spurs which could only have helped him.

    This signing could be a definite possibility unless he or his agent expects an outrageous contract.
     
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    I don't know about how much Jackson may want, he has been very, very good this year so he is on the verge from roll player, to starter or even simi-star. I would love to get him though.
     
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    You called it Karm, good job. Theres nothing I can say about SJax that hasn't already been said except that we desperatly need a player like him on our squad.
     
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    Can anybody put their finger on why this guy has bounced around so much??

    He was picked in the second round, 43rd overall, by the Suns in he 1997 Draft. Since then he's been to the CBA twice with Lacross and Ft Wayne, with the Marinos in the Venezuelan League, the Nets, Spurs, and Hawks in that order.

    The Spurs think they did right by letting him walk. Spurs fans had him tagged as "Me" oriented. I've heard it said he ran hot and cold. He'd make a few good plays then dribble off his own foot, or make a pass that only a fan in the third row could catch! He turned down 10 million over 3 yrs from the defending champs and eventually signed for 2yrs and 2.1 mil with a lottery team???
    I'll admitt I don't know much about this guy, but I'm beginning to think his "Head" makes me a little nervous. Above all we don't need another Ricky D.

    One more thing and I'll quit. Looks to me like he needs a lot of shots to be effective! Hell, the last game against us he jacked up 30. Where's he gonna get em??

    Karma!!.....Where are ya!... Feed us some info on your guy!

    Just the way I see it........Tank
     
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    Yeh Bron and Jackson almost got in a fight along wit Booz this sounds like a good mix for the Cavs,but I don't know why Jackson left the Spurs espically to ATL.
     
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    OK here is my take on Jackson. I have followed his progress since he was drafted in the second round by Seattle. Why you ask? Well Seattle didn't sign him, and he ended up down in Australia playing for the Sydney Kings! I watched him in a trial game, and the boy could fill it up from everywhere. I know it was only in Australia, but damn, he could shoot. Not bad for a high school kid. Anyhow, he ruptured his achilles and didn't play the season.

    He floated about a bit till he landed a role with New Jersey. He didn't do a great deal till he landed a roster spot at San Antonio. Slowly he worked his way into the rotation and by last season was a starter. What I was impressed by is how he worked well in the system. Here was this hot headed kid, who obviously had some bad advise, and being head strong decided to come straight from high school. He has had some issues, but he is passionate, and none of it has been overly destructive. He has matured.

    As I was saying, he played his role at San Antonio to a tee. He knew he wasn't the star or go to guy, and played accordingly. He was an exceptional post passer. He seemed to feed Duncan and Robinson more times than Parker. Then he would work off the ball to open spaces for a kickback pass from that duo. He worked his offense off other players. He didn't demand shots, as he knew there were better options. He took his open looks, and nailed some tough clutch buckets over the year, and in the playoffs.

    Those above reasons give me the solid impression that he would be a perfect fit here. I dont see us needing another "star" alongside LeBron. LeBron's scoring will improve over the years, and with Z and Boozer along for the ride, there is no point chasing a big time scorer. We need a complimentary scorer between James and Z. Someone who can step up and score, but will also fill the role of 3rd or 4th scorer. He works off the ball giving McInnis and James options off the penetration, and Z would finally have a shooter worth kicking out to.

    So there we have it. A guy who can step up and score, if our guns are struggling. And a player who shouldn't demand the ball too much to cause disruptions. Jackson can play the team game as he showed in San Antonio, and can be a leading man, as he is beginning to prove in Atlanta. A mix of those two is required in Cleveland, and to me he is the man for the job!
     
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    Well Tank I think It's best If I answer your questions about Jackson

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Can anybody put their finger on why this guy has bounced around so much??

    He was picked in the second round, 43rd overall, by the Suns in he 1997 Draft. Since then he's been to the CBA twice with Lacross and Ft Wayne, with the Marinos in the Venezuelan League, the Nets, Spurs, and Hawks in that order.
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    He has made a few mistakes over the course of his basketball career, fact is he never found a home for basketball mainly because they were never guys who could teach him how the game should really be played. Going to San Antonio was the best fit for him, coach Pop is the best motivator I have ever seen to be quite honest. He has always been able to get the best out of his players and motivate them to play hard and teach them on other areas of their game. Jackson always had the abilty but never played to that abilty til he was given a chance by the Spurs. He took it and continued to improve under great coaching, leadership and the vets such as David Robinson, Steve Smith and Steve Kerr. Those guys were a big reason why he has started to become a successful player.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Spurs think they did right by letting him walk. Spurs fans had him tagged as "Me" oriented. I've heard it said he ran hot and cold. He'd make a few good plays then dribble off his own foot, or make a pass that only a fan in the third row could catch! He turned down 10 million over 3 yrs from the defending champs and eventually signed for 2yrs and 2.1 mil with a lottery team???
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    I could go into long detail about why he is not on the Spurs roster right now, alot of it had to do with a poor decision making but trust me it was his agent who messed up the deal with the Spurs. Jackson was happy to return to San Antonio but his agent tried to get too much and overvalued his guy. Now this not only cost the Spurs from getting Jackson because of the contract situation, the Spurs lost the chance to trade for Latrell Sprewell. Spurs were not very happy about that at all. But trust me on this one, the Spurs did not want Jackson to leave. It was just an unfortune situation that went down the round way for both parties.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'll admitt I don't know much about this guy, but I'm beginning to think his "Head" makes me a little nervous. Above all we don't need another Ricky D.

    One more thing and I'll quit. Looks to me like he needs a lot of shots to be effective! Hell, the last game against us he jacked up 30. Where's he gonna get em??
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    Stephen is nothing like Ricky Davis, he is a hard worker for one thing. Certainly not something I would say about Ricky. He gets emotional at times but that all comes with the passion to win basketball games, you won't find him mouthing off about the fans or the franchise he used to play for.

    As for the shots, he doesn't need many shots to be effective. While It's true he has taken ALOT of shots in Atlanta this year to get his points, thats the price for really only being one of the less options on his team, he gets alot more defensive pressure than he has ever done in his career, he can still score and help his team even when taking 7-9 shots a game like he did in San Antonio.

    He is a clutch player and has the balls to step up when the season is on the line, not many of those guys are in this league anymore.
     
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    i know this season is great, but I can't wait till the Offseason... I mean I can't wait for the playoffs but there is so many Free Agents its crazy..

    This is gonna be a great offseason not to metion playoff... can anyone else wait?
     
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    It will be interesting as we will be building from a playoff team to a title contender. No draft picks though which puts a dampener on that night, but it will be intruiging as to what Paxson can come up with. Signing Jackson would be a great start.
     
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    AllNet..........I'm gratefull for the time you took to assuage my fears about this guy. Maybe I better pay closer attention to him for the rest of the year. Always two sides to the story.........Tank
     

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