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  1. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Those are stats from Dunleavy mostly playing against point guards who are 7 or more inches shorter than him, that doesn't really count because its not his true position. And of course he's going to get solid numbers because of it! Besides, who cares about stats you can just watch the team from when Claxton/NVE were still healthy and on the floor with Dunleavy at SF. Dunleavy doesn't change the game like Claxton and Pietrus do. It's about scoring runs and defensive stops. I never see Dunleavy play aggressively enough to make up for his slow speed and he doesn't really play with heart on the defensive end.

    If the warriors management finally chooses a direction they want to go to assemble a team built around someone, they'll have to choose between Jrich or Dunleavy. Because last year's draft doesn't make sense with picking Pietrus if we've got Jrich. Pietrus is an exact clone of Jrich with better defense and more deserving of minutes in the starting rotation as a team player than Dunleavy. However, with Chris Mullin and St. Jean kissing Dunleavy's ass, I can pretty much see Jrich suffering a Mitch Richmond type fate with Pietrus taking over his spot in the future. If that ever does happen I think that's when I've finally lost my patience with management.
     
  2. Rudeezy

    Rudeezy JBB Senior *********

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Those are stats from Dunleavy mostly playing against point guards who are 7 or more inches shorter than him, that doesn't really count because its not his true position. </div>But is it fair to fault the guy for producing where the coach has placed him? He is doing his job yet its not good enough because its not his true position?
     
  3. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">But is it fair to fault the guy for producing where the coach has placed him? He is doing his job yet its not good enough because its not his true position?</div>

    I'm saying they he wouldn't have those stats consistently if he was back in his SF position.
     
  4. kobeonfire

    kobeonfire JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Those are stats from Dunleavy mostly playing against point guards who are 7 or more inches shorter than him, that doesn't really count because its not his true position. And of course he's going to get solid numbers because of it! Besides, who cares about stats you can just watch the team from when Claxton/NVE were still healthy and on the floor with Dunleavy at SF. Dunleavy doesn't change the game like Claxton and Pietrus do. It's about scoring runs and defensive stops. I never see Dunleavy play aggressively enough to make up for his slow speed and he doesn't really play with heart on the defensive end.

    If the warriors management finally chooses a direction they want to go to assemble a team built around someone, they'll have to choose between Jrich or Dunleavy. Because last year's draft doesn't make sense with picking Pietrus if we've got Jrich. Pietrus is an exact clone of Jrich with better defense and more deserving of minutes in the starting rotation as a team player than Dunleavy. However, with Chris Mullin and St. Jean kissing Dunleavy's ass, I can pretty much see Jrich suffering a Mitch Richmond type fate with Pietrus taking over his spot in the future. If that ever does happen I think that's when I've finally lost my patience with management.</div>
    I see what you mean. I'd get rid of Dunleavy and keep Pietrus and J-rich, but that's just me.
     
  5. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobeonfire:</div><div class="quote_post">I see what you mean. I'd get rid of Dunleavy and keep Pietrus and J-rich, but that's just me.</div>

    Either that or keep him as a sharpshooter off the bench when you have Cliff Robinson and Foyle in the game with Pietrus and Claxton or somebody as the backcourt.

    BTW you know, Chris Mullin, even though he was slow, would at least use his quick hands, strong body, and footwork to play defense. And he'd poke away at the ball for an occasional steal. I don't see Dunleavy having that quickness that Mullin had with his hands and feet and Mullin was much stronger than Dunleavy too. I mean you can be slow in terms of footspeed but quick in terms of hands and reaction time and Dunleavy has neither. He needs to take lessons from Brian Cardinal and Mullin in pressuring the ball with his long arms and using his size to create an obstacle. I never see him do this.
     
  6. Rudeezy

    Rudeezy JBB Senior *********

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm saying they he wouldn't have those stats consistently if he was back in his SF position.</div>I just don't see the point of ripping the guy when he is doing a good job. He has a good night and then I see "well its only because he is playing the point". Does that make sense?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Golden State rookie Pietrus apologizes to team
    Associated Press - 15th March, 2004 11:02 PM

    OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) Golden State rookie Mickael Pietrus apologized Monday for criticizing his teammates and saying he wants out of his contract with the Warriors.

    "If that hurt some people, I just want to excuse myself and I would enjoy if I would stay here,'' Pietrus said before the Warriors played San Antonio. "At least I got a chance to play in the NBA. I had a chance to get drafted by the Warriors. Sometimes some players get upset by the way they lost. That was my case and I'm very sorry about that.''
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    If you seriously think he sucks then you must not have watched him play yet.
    Even yesterday he was impressive, beating his man (whoever it was) constantly and making nice passes, he also played great D and never seemed to be a step back on D.



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Mickael Pietrus, who played a season-high 34 minutes, hit a 3-pointer with 21/2 minutes remaining that put the Warriors (26-40) up 88-76 and pretty much took any remaining doubt away.

    Without Duncan, the Spurs went in plenty of different directions offensively, all without success. Parker, who had 13 points and 12 assists against the Warriors on Friday, wasn't nearly the bother he was the other night -- at least early. Parker had 11 points at halftime but was only 2-of-6 from the field.


    A lot of that had to do with Pietrus, who guarded him for long stretches in the first half. In the second half, Parker was in full-on aggressive mode and managed to make some things happen. </div>

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  8. Rudeezy

    Rudeezy JBB Senior *********

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If you seriously think he sucks then you must not have watched him play yet.
    Even yesterday he was impressive, beating his man (whoever it was) constantly and making nice passes, he also played great D and never seemed to be a step back on D.</div>I don't think anyone thinks he sucks.

    BTW- Thanks for the article.[​IMG]
     

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