it does. i don't know why espn picked him. he does not deserve it. okafor should have won, hands down. 1st in the nation in blocks, blocks per game 2nd in the nation in total rebounds 60% from the field, 18+ ppg, 11+ rpg, they actually won the big east tournament topping pitt, again jameer nelson has 20 ppg, 48% fg, 79% ft, 39% 3 pt, 5.5 assists, 4.8 rebs, 3.0 steals, and THREE POINT ZERO TO's per game.. c'mon! those stats aren't BAD by all means.. but he shouldn't have won it. it's not like delonte west didn't do anything, who.. if played more minutes that stupid jameer nelson would've crushed his little ass anyway. 1.2 less ppg, higher fg %, higher ft %, higher 3 pt %, more rebs per game, less than 1.0 assist lower per game, nearly 2 steals per game, and a asst/to ratio of 2/1. he outshined jameer nelson.. IN MY EYES at least. he's the best st. joes has, not nelson! heck, ben gordon's numbers aren't THAT far off from nelson's. you know.. clearly okafor is my biased pick, but a deserving pick.. but okafor didn't win.. i just would rather see someone else than jameer nelson win it. not even being the best player on your own team and winning it is just stupid.
Nelson had a great year, but I agree with u, I don't think he shoud win player of the year (did they announce it already??) ... I would have to go with okafor myself... I will say that altho West is a great player, Nelson is the heart and soul of that squad...I'm not going to say either way who's the better individual player, but Nelson is clearly the more "valuable" player...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting okaforever:</div><div class="quote_post">it does. i don't know why espn picked him. he does not deserve it. okafor should have won, hands down. 1st in the nation in blocks, blocks per game 2nd in the nation in total rebounds 60% from the field, 18+ ppg, 11+ rpg, they actually won the big east tournament topping pitt, again jameer nelson has 20 ppg, 48% fg, 79% ft, 39% 3 pt, 5.5 assists, 4.8 rebs, 3.0 steals, and THREE POINT ZERO TO's per game.. c'mon! those stats aren't BAD by all means.. but he shouldn't have won it. it's not like delonte west didn't do anything, who.. if played more minutes that stupid jameer nelson would've crushed his little ass anyway. 1.2 less ppg, higher fg %, higher ft %, higher 3 pt %, more rebs per game, less than 1.0 assist lower per game, nearly 2 steals per game, and a asst/to ratio of 2/1. he outshined jameer nelson.. IN MY EYES at least. he's the best st. joes has, not nelson! heck, ben gordon's numbers aren't THAT far off from nelson's. you know.. clearly okafor is my biased pick, but a deserving pick.. but okafor didn't win.. i just would rather see someone else than jameer nelson win it. not even being the best player on your own team and winning it is just stupid.</div> That statment right their killed all of your previous points imo. Yes, Nelson has had alot a great player playing alongside him in Delonte West. But Okafor is playing with scrubs himself. Uconn has some of the best balance between interior & perimeter players. When you look at Uconn you got Ben Gordon on the Perimeter, Talik Brown's senior floor leadership at the point. You have Charlie Villanueva who can come off the bench.And play alongside AQmeka on that frontline, which helps to relieve some of the low post pressure on both ends of the court. Rashard Anderson, the list goes on. Okafor has more than his fair share of help. Now lets look at what Jameer Nelson is working with. A extremely weak inside. ST.Joe's lacks balance, they are strickly a perimeter team. They have Jameer Nelson, Delonte West & Pat Carroll all perimeter players. Some night's most of ST.Joe's points in the paint come off guard penetration. Nelson has to be ST.Joe's main scoring option, Floor leader.And the guy that creates easy shot opportunity for the Hawks 2nd & 3rd scoring options. Perimeter shooters like Carroll & west need Nelson to help make them better. had the pressure of carrying an undefeated team(until A-10 tournament) all season long,& he has handled that challenge very well. The race is extremely close but I think Nelson has had to deal with a little bit more pressure that puts him over the edge imo. The whole world was watching ST.Joe's waiting for them to fail.And they didnt until the loss Xavier. And the 3 turnover a game point is kinda weak too. Teams have thrown some many different zones & presses at ST.Joe's to limit their backcourt, mainly beacuse off their lack of an inside, that 3 turnovers a game isnt all that much.
oh don't give me that crap. you need help in the big east, a real conference, with real contenders. you need a freaking team to survive the big east, not one individual player. you don't need any of that crap in the sorry ass atlantic 10. the big east, alongside the acc, are the top two conferences in college basketball. the a10 absolutely blows. st. blows is so over-rated. SOMEHOW they get stuck in the easiest freaking bracket of recent memory. clearly those bracketology idiots want them to go somewhere. even with an easy bracket, they'll get shutdown. sweet 16 or before, they are out. on the OTHER hand.. the only reason i'd like to see them make it any further, is so they get to have the opportunity to play a real team, and get embarassed worse than what Xavier put on them.
Dude, why do you hate St. Joes so much? Give em props, they freakin went 29-1 this year. They freakin deserve a #1 seed. But, yea, beyond that. Jameer Nelson does deserve to be player of the year. He has continually led that team to win after win all season. He's doing it with basically Delonte West and that's all. And, the fact that they have no prescence on the inside, I think makes it even more impressive. When you can win what, 29 straight games, somethin like that, without an inside prescence, that's amazing. Even though they may not be in the most difficult conference in all of the world, it's still good. So, dude, just shut up, Delonte West is not better than Jameer Nelson, and grow up. Okafor is a great player but he had a lot more help around him and therefore does not deserve. Plus, his team was the preseason favorite to win it all. St. Joes wasn't even mentioned than. The fact that he led his team from practically nowhere to a #1 seed deserves player of the year. EDIT: Just one last thing. Dude, look at your name. Okaforever. Yea, that says it all. For all we know, the only reason you want him to win it is because of the fact that he's your favorite player. So, yea, your name doesn't help your case. So, I just thought I'd throw that out there.
It definitely should be Okafor, unless you want to penalize him for being injured for a few games. Jameer Nelson was the political pick, it's like that loser Jason White winning the Heismann.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Dude, why do you hate St. Joes so much? Give em props, they freakin went 29-1 this year. They freakin deserve a #1 seed. But, yea, beyond that. Jameer Nelson does deserve to be player of the year. He has continually led that team to win after win all season. He's doing it with basically Delonte West and that's all. And, the fact that they have no prescence on the inside, I think makes it even more impressive. When you can win what, 29 straight games, somethin like that, without an inside prescence, that's amazing. Even though they may not be in the most difficult conference in all of the world, it's still good. So, dude, just shut up, Delonte West is not better than Jameer Nelson, and grow up. Okafor is a great player but he had a lot more help around him and therefore does not deserve. Plus, his team was the preseason favorite to win it all. St. Joes wasn't even mentioned than. The fact that he led his team from practically nowhere to a #1 seed deserves player of the year. EDIT: Just one last thing. Dude, look at your name. Okaforever. Yea, that says it all. For all we know, the only reason you want him to win it is because of the fact that he's your favorite player. So, yea, your name doesn't help your case. So, I just thought I'd throw that out there.</div> don't go analyzing crap that you have no idea about, ok. first off, okaforever is the name i have on the big east board, as well as my espn.com name, and it's the name i use when i'm in a college basketball related area, such as these forums. second. i'm a uconn fan. third. okaforever.. i had to try to think of some 'clingy' nickname to go by, so i found a little cleverness in that.. okafor-forever=okaforever. he's a great player, that i, or any other uconn fan will never forget. got it? and ps - i like ben gordon more. it doesn't matter what my message board name is to plead a case.. so basically by your standards it's foolish of me to even be here and to talk anything of emeka okafor or uconn basketball based upon my message board name, no? and what did you not get about my post? i think i made it clear why st. blows is over-rated and jameer nelson should not be the player of the year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Fast Luck:</div><div class="quote_post">It definitely should be Okafor, unless you want to penalize him for being injured for a few games. Jameer Nelson was the political pick, it's like that loser Jason White winning the Heismann.</div> even with injuries, uconn played more games than st. joes anyhow.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kvh4fan:</div><div class="quote_post">Nelson is the reason why St. Joe's is where they are. Nuff said.</div> you could go through every team in the nation with a statement like that, erin.
Well I also agree that Okafur should have been player of the eyar.He ahd a onster eyar.Especially on the defensive end.And he could be a franchise player in the NBA
Nice Spelling I think the player of the Year should of been Emeka Okafor or Josh Childress but Nelson did have a great year and they did beat my fav College team Gonzaga but I just think that Okafor had a better year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Fast Luck:</div><div class="quote_post">wow why is he banned now</div> Probably because all his posts are a diss at another member or something else negative or him griping about how UConn is better than any other team.
Who cares if all his posts are from a UConn point of view, and he's sometimes a little curt? He didn't burst into profanity laced tirades or anything. Anyhow, any team would much rather have Okafor than Nelson. Okafor should be player of the year. Nelson is great though, but okaforever had an okay point when he said not to forget about West. West is 95% as good as Nelson and yet Nelson gets nearly all the talk. I'm not at all surprised that Nelson wins, his team had a spectacular year and UConn did less than people expected. But "player of the year" just doesn't mean best player in the league.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-MAC:</div><div class="quote_post">Nice Spelling I think the player of the Year should of been Emeka Okafor or Josh Childress but Nelson did have a great year and they did beat my fav College team Gonzaga but I just think that Okafor had a better year.</div> Childress was great, but I don't know about player of the year. If I'm not mistaken, he did miss some of the season. Okafor in my opinion should have won this. He is so dominate and played in a much tougher conference. His numbers are oustanding.
well...honestly i think it's fine that he made player of the year... for real, the only person rivaling him was emeka...and i mean, i think pg's got it a lot more rough Jameer is clutch, he's 5'10, and he can always create his own shots he scored near as much as emeka, and had assists to rival rebounds so with all respect to Emeka and whoever else was up there, i still like Jameer
Seriously, to tell you the truth I kinda think they wanted to give it to the little guy from the little school. Because it seems every year they give it to the big name player from the big name school in the big name conference.
Okafor definately Deserved it more. Look at the stats. They just thought that picking jameer Nelson woudl be better for College Basketball... Boy, were they wrong.
