What Player Lost His Stock This Season? Who Has Improved The Most?

as in what player or players took a step back in their career this years? (not talking about OFF the court, strictly on the court)

tmac, allen iverson, and vince carter come in mind.


yao ming has improved tremendously, manu ginobili, rasheed wallace got some respect back, and erik dampier

 

Zach Randolph made big improvements too.

 

I don't know if Vince has lost his stock, because compared to the last 2 seasons this is a pretty good season health wise. His dimes have also gone up and he still has the 40% 3PT shooting he had in his 2 glory years. (will go down to 39. somehting % after 1-3 today though).

Iverson is getting older thats basically why, with injuries stepping in and with him being set to lose his quickness and speed he can't play on the ame level anymore.

Webber has definately being set back, the doctors said he might not be abloe to do what he was again.

Jamal Mashburn.



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Randolph and Redd didn't neccesarily improve as much as they got more minutes.

Dampier improved, but people shouldn't go out and give him a big contract because on a contract year and with him being 30 years old, that isn't that safest thing. I don't think he should get more than the 8 million he wouldn've made this year, but people will probably give him more, ah well.

Yao, yes, he's o more confidence in his game.

Amare has also improved even while being plagued with injuries.

Kwame Brown has also improved, and Hughes is showing why he shouldn't be played as a PG.

 

Raja Bell has also risen his stock tremendously, and same goes for Stephen Jackson. Pargo recently has also shown a little of what he is capable of, but I think the biggest stock raiser has to be Ronald Murray. The Sonics weren't even sure about resigning him during and after summer training camp I heard, and turned out to be one of the surprises this year. A lot of teams will be looking to get him in a trade this summer, and I think he's risen his stock most.

 

Well, you can't really fault Vince Carter and say that he's taken a step back- it's just due to injuries... same with AI. Erick Dampier- just playing better cuz its his contract year. I'd say Redd is the MIP.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Krazygreen:</div><div class="quote_post">(not talking about OFF the court, strictly on the court)</div>
haha, i like how you put that in just so no one mentions Kobe.

anyways, i think AI's stock has fallen due to his injuries. he used to regarded as one of the toughest guys on the court, but now people might be hesitant to trade for him due to his injuries. (not to mention his off the court theatrics).

michael redd might win most improved player of the year, so i think his stock has definitely risen.

 

As a Raptors fan I can't believe we let go of Carlos Arroyo. This has been a huge season for him and if the Raptors had hung onto him we'd have another huge hole filled. Anyways, in my mind some of the players who have improved their value the most are Flip Murray, Zach Randolph, Michael Redd, Carlos Arroyo, Stephen Jackson and to an extent Andrei Kirilenko (he's had some solid years but he's starting to show how dominant of a defensive player he can be on top of some solid offensive stats).

A lot of guys lost stock but one of the biggest has to be Iverson. Im thinking teams will still want him because of the fans he can draw in and because he has a lot of heart, but because of the way he plays hes starting to break down and age quicker. Also hes gonna slow down and his game is based on his speed...so Im not sure if were gonna see the same Iverson ever again. Plus the other baggage that comes with him (not practicing, coach problems, etc.)

 

As a Raptors fan I also can't believe will let got of Brian Skinner, Janero Pargo (instead of Milt), Lonny Baxter and Micheal Bradley (instead of Archibald), in addition to Arroyo. The queston is would Arroyo be how he is now without being behind Stockton? He is an FA after the season though, people will be looking.

Ronald Murray definately.

I'm a huge Redd fan, but he shouldn't be MIP, Dampier should be. The thing is that Redd and Randolph could do this last year and just needed more minutes to show it. Dampier is playing about the same minutes as last year, but his play has improved drastically, thas why I think he is the guy that actually improved not just statistically.

 

didn't the raptors let go of Raefer Alston too?

 

Oh yes can't forget about Alston, that was all the President Richard "the retard" Peddie's fault I heard. I remember in a Raptors on call thing, him and Grunwald were on and someone asked GG if he was thinking of re-signing Rafer. Glen stated that he had not had any formal talks with him as of yet. Richard then jumped in stating ?Why would we want to keep a player because the fans like him when all he does it turn the ball over the fans want to see wins and not players?. I knew right then that Richard had more of a say in things then most thought.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting iamme:</div><div class="quote_post">haha, i like how you put that in just so no one mentions Kobe.

anyways, i think AI's stock has fallen due to his injuries. he used to regarded as one of the toughest guys on the court, but now people might be hesitant to trade for him due to his injuries. (not to mention his off the court theatrics).

michael redd might win most improved player of the year, so i think his stock has definitely risen.</div>

lol cheers for noticing that! (can't help it man, my favorite player, you know how it goes =

 

Kobe HAS declined a bit on the court. He's not as good right now as he was last year. He's added the left hand to his offense, but other elements that he already had aren't as strong.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ANiMuS:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe HAS declined a bit on the court. He's not as good right now as he was last year. He's added the left hand to his offense, but other elements that he already had aren't as strong.</div>


but for a guy whos practically playing with at 50% (his right shoulder is messed up, his shooting shoulder) hes produced pretty well since the all star break

ya of course he wont throw up great numbers, he has 3 other players he has to share the offense with on a consistent basis, if he were to average 30 points this season, the media would be calling him selfish. Plus hes injured, the most hes been injured his whole career, yet hes still producting. He has heart.

 

Kobe still averages 23.4 ppg for the season. That's incredible having 3 other future hall of famers and like Krazygreen said having that shoulder injury. He has found focus in the second half of the season. U could kinda tell his mind wandered from time to time in the 1st half of the year with his off court troubles.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 30 standing ver:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe still averages 23.4 ppg for the season. That's incredible having 3 other future hall of famers and like Krazygreen said having that shoulder injury. He has found focus in the second half of the season. U could kinda tell his mind wandered from time to time in the 1st half of the year with his off court troubles.</div>


what player can go to court, face the women who is accusing him of rape for 3 hours straight, have that mental strain on him and being physically injured come back to la 30 minutes before tip off for a game against arguably at the time the best team in the NBA, and score 38 points, inlucing 6 rebounds and assists. Name me one player, currently in the NBA who has the heart to do that.

dude, if me and my girlfriend got into a simple argument, my mind wouldnt be able to focus on anything, especially a 48 minute game of basketball...its riduculous how hard it is for this man, yet no one understands, people ridicule him, make fun of him, poke jokes at him, its a sad sad situation. But i could understand it at times, people have mixed emotions about it.

 

I have to say AI...

 

Stephen Jackson, stock mos def rose this season. Other than the Spurs teams were kind of reluctent to throw multy year deals at him. But with his play with the Hawks, he is going to be one of the hottest players on the market.

A few guys that I think raised their stock under the Radar

Rafer Alston- The guy got no minutes on the Bucks, was a 10-day contract player on the Raptors & couldnt get a long term deal during the offseason because gm's didnt have faith in his jumpshot. This season he has been a key player to the success of the Heat. Whether its filling in for Wade as a starter when Wade was injured alot earlier this season. Or making big plays down the stretch off the bench in the Heats final playoff push. I expect him to get a long term deal in the offseason.

Trenton Hassell- On the Bulls his defense wasnt recognized by the masses. He was signed to the Wolves right before the season after being cut by the Bulls. Now he is slowly becoming one of the best Defesive perimeter players. And has also shown an improvement in his jumpshot. Another player who should expect to get paid this offseason.

I think Jamal Crawford's stock has dropped. At the end of last season every figured that this was Jamal Crawford's year to become a star. But his minutes & play has been very inconisistent all season long. I dont think teams are going to be throwing those real big long term contracts at the Crawford this offseason, which means that the Bulls will be able to match & keep Crawford at a cheap price. He isnt as hott or wanted as much as he once was last year.

 

Lost : Iverson and McGrady

Improved : Randolph, Kirilenko

 

I would have to say Ronald Murray Y did the bucks let him go!!!!!
Also i would have to say Ron Artest Last year good and all but this year is a whole different story. Now he just doesnt play D he plays the Big O too!

 

I'd say Mashburn, AI, and McGrady have lost their stocks this year...AI and McGrady have lost their cool one too many times and Mashburn just plain was injured all season basically....Players who rose would be Nene Hilario, Michael Redd, and Stephen Jackson....Nene is a big part of the Nuggets team right now and he's doin great....Redd pretty much dominated every game for the Bucks with a couple of no-show games....Jackson, he's a dummy for not takin the Spurs offer but he's a star in Atlanta...I just hope they can revamp in the offseason...losin Ratliff hurt them...