Raptors Official Offseason Thread (Signings, trades, etc)

Marshall traded for a big man, and we draft Jameer Nelson or Ben Gordon.

 

I really don't want to trade Marshall, he loves it here and has played awesome here. He was the steal of the trade. I really like Marshall, and would like to keep him, i would only trade him if we got a really good caenter. one that is tall, and can play defense. other than that i would keep Marshall, because he is one of our best players.

You have to keep VC, Rose and Bosh. i would like to keep Marshall as i said. Mo-pete has been playin ok, but he is too incomsistent. we really need to play the free agent market. WE NEED A BIG MAN.

 

^werd.. But I would say keep VC, Marshall, Bosh and Rose, and build around the solid base they have formed as a team already. We Need a big man and a pg, and a deepre supporting cast.

and here is what I found on Real Gm. To clarify RealGM uses newspapers, and any media source possible to verify their information. It is not 100% accurate, I meant I confirmed it on Real GM.

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<LI>1st round pick to Cleveland. Must be Toronto's. No option. No due date. Top-13 protected through 2008. Unprotected in 2009. (September 25, 2002: Cavaliers trade F Lamond Murray and a future second-round draft choice to Toronto Raptors for C Michael Stewart and a future first-round draft choice)

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Maybe I misunderstood this ?
the exact site is : http://www.realgm.com/src_future_picks.php
click the Toronto link.

 

I'm having second thoughts on drafting a PG in the off-season. The draft is usually used to take advantage of the up and coming big men coming into the league so maybe drafting a back court player isn't the best route. PG's in this league come and go all the time, but it's the big guys who come along not very often.

Anyways, I might be talking outta my arse right now but I think we should seriously consider choosing Pavel Podkolzine in the draft. I just read his profile a while ago (http://draftcity.com/pavelpodkolzine.htm) and he doesn't sound as bad as I initially thought of him. I never realized how young he is (just turned 19) and how little he's been playing so I don't think we should rule this guy out just yet. He has potential and tremendous size so that's good enough for us to at least give him a chance. If we can't get him then we should take a stab at Kosta Perovic (smaller but is better at blocking shots).

If we do draft Podkolzine then he should be coming off the bench (hopefully we can get Mark Blount to be our starting center). We can get a decent starting point guard via trade or free agency and, if needed, we can use our second round pick to draft another point guard (hopefully someone like Chris Duhon can be available). Now we won't get pushed around as much with a front court that includes Blount(hopefully), Bosh, Marshall, Podkolzine, and Moiso.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tomac54:</div><div class="quote_post">ya, i would love to get Ben Gordan, he could really make a deference. i also like Andre
Emmitt, he really has game. he reminds he of a vince Carter or Michael Finaly. he can shoot from anywhere, is 6ft 5in, is a good rebounder, strong, and plays hard every day. i like Gordan, Emmitt, and simen or warrick
what u guys think???????????????????</div>
emmit is just a good dunker. you probably only like him cuz he won the dunk contest. he would only be good for second round.

 

Here is my Mock Off-Season...

1. Fire KO
2. Hire Byron or Doc
3. Get Donnie Nelson as GM.
4. Draft Ben Gordon with the 7-9th pick. If we get 1-2-3 Draft Howard or Emeka.
5. With Clevelands Second Rounder draft the best player available for a spark off the bench. Id like Chris Duhon If we get a big man with our first rounder.
6. Use full MLE on Etan Thomas or Mark Blount.
7. Use LLE on Adonal Foyle is he wants to sign.
8. Extend Marshall for two more years at 5 mill.

Depth Chart...

pg- Gordon/Williams/Duhon
sg- Rose/Williams/Gordon
sf- Vince/Marshall/Rose
pf- Bosh/Marshall/Moiso
c- Thomas or Blount/Foyle/Moiso

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kid Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">Here is my Mock Off-Season...

1. Fire KO
2. Hire Byron or Doc
3. Get Donnie Nelson as GM.
4. Draft Ben Gordon with the 7-9th pick. If we get 1-2-3 Draft Howard or Emeka.
5. With Clevelands Second Rounder draft the best player available for a spark off the bench. Id like Chris Duhon If we get a big man with our first rounder.
6. Use full MLE on Etan Thomas or Mark Blount.
7. Use LLE on Adonal Foyle is he wants to sign.
8. Extend Marshall for two more years at 5 mill.

Depth Chart...

pg- Gordon/Williams/Duhon
sg- Rose/Williams/Gordon
sf- Vince/Marshall/Rose
pf- Bosh/Marshall/Moiso
c- Thomas or Blount/Foyle/Moiso</div>

come on. get REAL. that is NOT going to happen. first, doc or byron would not want to come to toronto. if raps fire KO they would probably get another <font color="red">edit</font> coach...like an assistant or college coach or something. second, Don nelson would NOT wantto come to a losing team like toronto EVEN IF he is fired in dallas. at this age he would want to join a contender. third, chances r very small we would be able to get even one ot those big men u mentioned through free agency. come on, at least make up something that is realistic.

 

First off How do you know Doc Wouldn't want to come to Toronto? He was on the Fan 590 and said he likes the city of Toronto. I said Donnie Nelson not Don Nelson. Donnie is his son. He does alot of scouting for the Mavs and found the talent of Daniels, Howard, Dirk and a few others. The odds are we wont get Etan or Blount because The Wiz can match any offer for Thomas. I think we can get Gordon with the 8th pick. If we dont get Doc maybe we can get Jim O'Brien and that will atract Blount who said he will go where O'Brien goes. Odds are we wont be able to get Foyle with the LLE at about 1.6 million. But instead of Foyle how about Jason Collier as a backup center? He has been playing pretty decent on the Hawks.

 

Jim Obrien is like KO but more three point shooting. Obriens teams are littered with scrappy players who will fight and claw for every point. The Raptors have none of these.

I do like the idea of Doc coming to Toronto though. I don't know how much of an impact he can make because it doesn't look like anything can motivate the Raptors at this point. Lenny Wilkins was too soft. KO is too hard. These guys gotta make up their minds and find out who to play for.

I also like the idea of Donnie Nelson coming to Toronto as well. He scouts like a maniac and can be very usefull during draft time. Hopefully he can lure Nash to Toronto as well but that is wishful thinking.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kid Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">First off How do you know Doc Wouldn't want to come to Toronto? He was on the Fan 590 and said he likes the city of Toronto. I said Donnie Nelson not Don Nelson. Donnie is his son. He does alot of scouting for the Mavs and found the talent of Daniels, Howard, Dirk and a few others. The odds are we wont get Etan or Blount because The Wiz can match any offer for Thomas. I think we can get Gordon with the 8th pick. If we dont get Doc maybe we can get Jim O'Brien and that will atract Blount who said he will go where O'Brien goes. Odds are we wont be able to get Foyle with the LLE at about 1.6 million. But instead of Foyle how about Jason Collier as a backup center? He has been playing pretty decent on the Hawks.</div>

Well said, that would be similar to my ideal off season except I'm not big on Foyle, but he may be the best available considering our situation. Mark Blount or Etan Thomas would be great. I love the idea of having Donnie Nelson, he'd have a better eye for talent than Grunwald did, Doc or Byron Scott would be my choices for the new coach. As for the draft I would go for Ben Gordon or Devin Harris.

 

I agree, that is a good offseason schedule. i would say the biggest thing we must do is sign Etan or Blount. then, we will have a good shot at the playoffs. Gordan would be awesome in the draft. Donnie Nelson is a good idea too. he could get some player here. i like the thoughts for this off season, Lets hope they happen.

 

The Wiz are likely not going to retain Thomas, their was even speculation of leaving him unprotected because that just makes him an unrestricted FA with no obligation to sign with the Bobs but can't re-sign with the Wiz anymore this year.

Blount will be harder to get and likely more expensive but we gotta keep everything open.

Gordon would be good in the draft and I hope he can fit well.
Rodney White and Jon Barry would be good as backups with either us signing them or if we get Blount of Etan, then trading Marshall for then in a sign and trade with Denver.
Jerome James and Ronald Murray for Marshall would also not be bad if we got Etan or Blount.
We can also look at Richie Frahm as a backup. Damon Jones would be good but he's staying in Milwaukee I won't get ahead of myself.

Foyle or Collier as a backup is good but Collier isn't a good rebounder (offensive mostly) since he stays on the perimeter a lot, he's a big man with range and a shooting touch though.

I wish Peddie wouldn't make decisions, I want McCloskey to be the on that picks our GM, and also the GM to bring in a coach thats on the same page as him which means they talk to each other make moves he both agree with etc.

I don't want the GM waiving Baxter for Archibald when the coach would have preffered Baxter wheter he was playing him or not.
I see that a lot of people have given up on the Dampier idea, I thought this would happen, I don't want us spending big money on him and have him go back to the old Dampier again, but its not that he would be bad but too much will be spent.

 

Gordan is going to be in the Draft, just saw it on CNN.

Watever we get we will need to keep Jalen, he's causing so much problems for other teams because of his height and usually always gets it in. I still see no reason why Jalen can't play the point, the only problem is the turnovers and it looks like they are decreasing (haven't checked the stats, just watching the games). IF we do draft a point guard the I guess he will be moved to SG. I say let's build on the team and get a coach that can actually coach them, and not ubsessed(sp?) with defence because defence alone doesn't win games. Because what good is defence without offence? And the same goes with offence. We need a coach that can coach both.

 

think at Peja Drobnjak

 

<font color="red">Title Edited by thefranchise3. This thread has gone off topic from its original title, so now this will be the official thread to talk about all of the Raptors offseason roster moves, draft, signings etc.</font>

 

If they can lure Steve Nash to Canada and the Toronto raptors....then the raptors can afford to get Emka Okafor...BIGGEST TWO FRONTLINE EVER!!!

 

^^I think the Raptors will always be able to afford to get Okafor, if they passed up on him it would be travesty. But we won't get him so lets just get off that right now...

With all of this coaching talk has anyone thought about maybe Lawrence Frank coaching the Raptors? I could be wrong but the Nets have not signed him to an extension yet.

 

why not Byron Scott??

 

yea, def DOC or SCOTT, that's all I can think of right now as far as the coachin job is concerned.