Raptors Official Offseason Thread (Signings, trades, etc)

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  1. og15

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    Yea forgot about the D, that's another thing, Pierce is a pretty good defender, Carter doesn't like to play one on one defense, maybe 1 out of 10 games he will.
     
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    ok i think we have all came to agree that we would trade vince for peirce.....

    ive got a new senerio: vince for rip hamilton?

    personally, id go with it right away. any thoughts?
     
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    Vince for Rip? Come on, it's like your trying to mock him. [​IMG] I know his value has gone way down, but he's still better than Hamilton in my mind.
     
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    The thing is that Rip is good because of the system Detroit has, basically he's not on Carter's level. Rip is not a good defender, he cannot create for himself too effectively, and though he has improved his passing is not that good a passer. He's also not a good rebounder for a 6'7 guard.
    He's a killer mid range shooter off screens though, but how much of that happened thus year, at least Ko won't be orchestrating our offense next year, but Vince for Rip is a no no.
     
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    Troy Hudson might leave the T-wolves, do u all think the raps should go for this guy as our point?
     
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    He's not starting material. But useful.
     
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    since we are talking trade about vince to washington for areanas and brendan hawood (sp.). u satisfy the pg, center positions by getting rid of vince and u still have the eight pick and cap space to add depth to the bench.

    possible starting lineup bench
    areanas (pg) alvin (combo)
    rose (sg) (free agent guard)
    warrick (sf) (murray)
    bosh (pf) marshall (sixth man)
    hawood © moiso (contract year!!!)
     
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    Trading Vince is like rebuilding the team, and I dont think we will rebuild the team...unless we dont make the playoffs next season then that would be an option, but not right now. The only player I'm ok trading Vince for is Pierce, they got similar game but Pierce drives more often but can't creat as good as Vince. Instead of trading Vince why dont we get rid of our crap players (Murray, Milt, ect..) and get a better bench. If Mo can drive more he will be one of the best players on the Raptors. Everytime he drives something good happens, I never see him missing lay-ups or taking a bad shot in the lane (when you think about it nothing is a bad shot for him).
     
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    y did the thread "Wagner?" need to be close. omg all these so-called "duplicates" piss me off. its a whole new idea; not a duplicate.
     
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    if the raptors are serious about improving they need to trade members of the core; donyell, vince, jalen or cb4
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">if the raptors are serious about improving they need to trade members of the core; donyell, vince, jalen or cb4</div>
    bosh is the only one really untradable....
    id say give up marshall soon bcuz hes value is high right now. jalen also has a large contract so i wouldnt mind letting him go either. vince is still our leader but if we can get some1 better (pierce, t-mac...well he wont wanna come, etc.) then go for it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Magic Johnson:</div><div class="quote_post">He's not starting material. But useful.</div>

    wasn't he the point before sam went to the t-wolves?
     
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    Pierce is more inconsistent than Vince though, and he's a turnover machine, the defense and the rebounding are his edges, but man Pierce.

    About Arenas and Haywood for Vince, I don't know if Washington would want to do that, or even if we would want to do that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Pierce is more inconsistent than Vince though, and he's a turnover machine, the defense and the rebounding are his edges, but man Pierce.

    About Arenas and Haywood for Vince, I don't know if Washington would want to do that, or even if we would want to do that.</div>
    i wouldnt take arenas either....
     
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    Just keep Vince, he didnt do nothin bad this year, in fact he played very solid. Give him another year, see how his legs turn out and if he elevates his game.
     
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    ^yes. he's finally tkaing a rest and I hope it helps.

    OT: whos in your avatar, skip?
     
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    Scarlett Johansson... 13th sexiest women picked by readers of Maxim over tha globe... and she just turned 19... the leader of new school for Hollywood actresses, watch her movies, support her as much as ya can lmao.. Im so ******* obsessed....

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Pierce is more inconsistent than Vince though, and he's a turnover machine, the defense and the rebounding are his edges, but man Pierce.

    About Arenas and Haywood for Vince, I don't know if Washington would want to do that, or even if we would want to do that.</div>

    well would u do it? arenas and haywood for vince? read my rationalization for it!
     
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    pierce would be a good move, he had a career high in turnovers this season, but only because he was handling the ball a lot more. if pierce had antoine, or was on the raps with someone else who could take the pressure off him, his turnovers would prolly be the same if not less then vince. vince seems to turn the ball over lots too

    hudson would be a GREAT move. id love to see him on the raps, he is exactly what we need. he can create his own shot, and for others. hes a good shooter too. id love to see him in a raps uni
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">pierce would be a good move, he had a career high in turnovers this season, but only because he was handling the ball a lot more. if pierce had antoine, or was on the raps with someone else who could take the pressure off him, his turnovers would prolly be the same if not less then vince. vince seems to turn the ball over lots too

    hudson would be a GREAT move. id love to see him on the raps, he is exactly what we need. he can create his own shot, and for others. hes a good shooter too. id love to see him in a raps uni</div>
    i agree. hudson would be the point man we need. that could also move rose to the 2 or 3 position which would allow him to score more.
     
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