Raptors Official Offseason Thread (Signings, trades, etc)

raptors need and want devin harris

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">raptors need and want devin harris</div>
who is devin harris? i havent heard of him before.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting harry_balls5:</div><div class="quote_post">who is devin harris? i havent heard of him before.</div>

http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/devinharris.asp

 

sounds like a guy full of athletisism but lacks understanding of the game.

the soucting notes indicate that he can jump and hes got handles and all but im kinda concerned when it says he needs to learn how to run the half court sets and he doesnt know when to gamble on defense. also, the fact that he shoots inconsistently and likes the 3 pointer concerns me. the raps have enoguh ppl who do that.

who r some good big men in the draft?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting harry_balls5:</div><div class="quote_post">sounds like a guy full of athletisism but lacks understanding of the game.

the soucting notes indicate that he can jump and hes got handles and all but im kinda concerned when it says he needs to learn how to run the half court sets and he doesnt know when to gamble on defense. also, the fact that he shoots inconsistently and likes the 3 pointer concerns me. the raps have enoguh ppl who do that.

who r some good big men in the draft?</div>

Devin Harris is one of the top PGs in the draft this year, and if we get the chance to draft him we should definitely do it. You have to see him play to like him, its hard to judge someone just off scouting reports. Hes athletic, he can shoot, and can easily create off the dribble, something the Raptors need at the PG spot. Its very hard to find a really consistent 3 point shooter out of the draft anyway. Hes the Big Ten conference player of the year, and led Wisconsin to a 24-6 record, scoring over 20 a game, among the big ten leaders in assists, steals, assist to turnover ratio and three-point fg percentage (just giving you some info). As far as understanding of the game, that comes with time, if whoever coaches us (assuming we have a chance to draft him) puts him in a good system that shouldn't be a huge problem.

I hope they draft a PG, it would be much easier and much more effective if we signed or traded for a big man, considering when most big men come out of the draft it takes a long time for them to develop.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thefranchise3:</div><div class="quote_post">Its very hard to find a really consistent 3 point shooter out of the draft anyway.</div>
i believe the scouting report said he wasnt a consistent shooter.

anyway, ur right, i need to c him play.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Parni Valjak:</div><div class="quote_post">We need to get rid of Lamond Murray, all he is doing is eating up Torontos money, while he is sitting on the bench, what a total waste of time and money he has been, i really thought he was going to help the Raptors, but he just didnt end up in the right role i guess. The Raptors need to get into the European market, they need to send their scouts to scour Europe, as an example, Serbia.</div>

Yes. He's horrible. I don't think he's good enough to play at the NBA level along with Michael Olowokandi. He can't even follow the Raptor's system.

 

lamond murray only scored a lot with other teams bcuz he played for bad teams. no question can he score but the guy cant win.

 

i think lamond murray can play he just didn't fit in KO system... i mean 16pts per game at cleve land ....even if he did it with abunch of crappy players, it cant be that bad...i mean he still has trade value and maybe can fit into our new coach's system and be a good bench player

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting McGrady^1:</div><div class="quote_post">i think lamond murray can play he just didn't fit in KO system... i mean 16pts per game at cleve land ....even if he did it with abunch of crappy players, it cant be that bad...i mean he still has trade value and maybe can fit into our new coach's system and be a good bench player</div>

I would much rather trade him than keep him. Lamond was given a chance early in the season, and in the middle, he got what he wanted and that was to shoot. He did that poorly and thats why he was benched, if hes going to play bad under Kevin O'neil and have a bad attitude about it what makes you think he would easily fit into another coaches system?

You have to put into consideration that Lamond was out for a whole season with that ankle injury, he may never have his game back again. We have to stop wasting our time with players like him and pick someone up who can play under any coach, no excuses.

At the start of the season I thought he would be a great player coming of the bench, but that never happened, so I think we should just get rid of him - which would save that pain and suffering later he may cause.

 

Trade Lamond, he doesn't want to play for Toronto.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">AUBURN HILLS, Mich.?Detroit Pistons assistant general manager John Hammond has piqued the interest of the highest level of Raptor management as an ideal general manager.

With minority owner Larry Tanenbaum said to be taking a more active role in the search to replace Glen Grunwald, Hammond has emerged as the favourite, according to NBA sources.

"He's the guy they're always talking about," one source said yesterday.

"But they're going to wait until the Pistons are done."

Detroit is in the midst of the Eastern Conference final and if the Pistons advance to the NBA Finals, it could be more than two weeks before Toronto approaches the highly regarded executive.

Vince Carter said last week he'd like to see the process quickened and teammate Jalen Rose is of the same opinion.

"Not having anyone creates uncertainty and when you have uncertainty, that puts you a step behind everyone else," Rose said last night as he prepared to watch his old Indiana Pacer teammates take on the Pistons in Game 4. "If you wait that long, you might still get the right guy for the job, but sometimes when you wait a lot of initial candidates or favourites are already gone."</div> <div align="center"><u>Full Story</u>
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Well, It looks like Byron Scott won't be our Head Coach. He signed a deal with the Hornets and is now coaching them. Hopefully we can still get a good coach, oh yeah and a GM.

 

<font size="3">Jonathan Bender</font>

Would anyone like the idea of getting Jonathan Bender, he does have his defensive problems which he can work on, but his length and size also helps to cover for them, but he's a great athelete, has a good shot and shotoing stroke, and could be useful.

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"I don't think this team will be back in our exact form next year. I just think there will be some changes, through free agency, the draft or trades. There's going to be some things that are different, without question."

The conflicting talents and ambitions of Ron Artest, Al Harrington and Jonathan Bender create the most likely scenario for change, and the greatest opportunity to address weaknesses</div>


http://www.indystar.com/articles/4/152258-6774-179.html


I know Harrington is more likely to be traded, but we don't have much to offer in terms or acquiring Harrington, so do you think it would be a good idea to pursue Bender?

 

^ Not only is Byron Scott gone, but so are Doc Rivers and Jim O'Brien. What legitimate coaches are there now? Tim Floyd? Jeff Bzdelik? Don Chaney? WHO???
Oh, and I believe that our best choice would be to get Ben Gordon...but another team will probably draft him higher than us...so Devin Harris would be the way to go. Then we could sign in a center with another team...Jerome James? Etan Thomas? Mark Blount? The possibilities are endless...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting v_carter15:</div><div class="quote_post">^ Not only is Byron Scott gone, but so are Doc Rivers and Jim O'Brien. What legitimate coaches are there now? Tim Floyd? Jeff Bzdelik? Don Chaney? WHO???
Oh, and I believe that our best choice would be to get Ben Gordon...but another team will probably draft him higher than us...so Devin Harris would be the way to go. Then we could sign in a center with another team...Jerome James? Etan Thomas? Mark Blount? The possibilities are endless...</div>

In your response to your coaching comment, Eric Musselman I believe is still available.

 

mike woodson...an assistant coach for the pistons has been in contact with the raps...he might be comming aboard.

frankly, i dont care who we hire anymore...with the people in place that we have, im confident they'll make a good descision for our head coach.

also...with all the ties we have to the t-wolves...im thinkin our chances of getting hudson aboard are pretty good.

 

^ Good, but if we get Hudson and get a PG on draft day, should Alvin go? Palacio?
Also, i'd like to see Moiso and Mason Jr. back. They have a lot of promise and under a new coach, i think they'd be given a better oppurtunity to prove themselves.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting v_carter15:</div><div class="quote_post">^ Good, but if we get Hudson and get a PG on draft day, should Alvin go? Palacio?
Also, i'd like to see Moiso and Mason Jr. back. They have a lot of promise and under a new coach, i think they'd be given a better oppurtunity to prove themselves.</div>

i love alvin's heart but he's got the body of a 40 year old. his contract is going to keep him here for the duration of his contract, i think knowing that the raptors will expose lamond in the expansion draft. if lamond is picked up babcock has a little over 10 million to spend under the cap to fill out about 7 more roster spots

 

Would You..

Would you trade Vince Carter for Joe Johnson and Macej Lampe, with a possible pick being thrown in there somewhere? I think id definately do it. Lampe is a future stud, and we all know Johnson is a star in the making, but would the Suns do it? Its possible, they do have the cap.

PG Devin Harris
SG Joe Johnson
SF Jalen Rose
PF Donyell Marshall
C Chris Bosh

Lampe will eventually play Center full time, with Marshall moving out and Bosh moving to PF. The lineup could be worked with, with us drafting a SF instead of Harris, and then Rose moving to the point.

Not trying to start any rumours here, but I would love this deal for the Raptors.