How dominate will they be? I'd say very dominate. First, lets look at Wake Forest. They are getting their whole team back except 1 senior who never played. Chris Paul has matured and will be one of the top Sophmores just like he was one of the top Freshman. Williams will mature into a great center and learn not to always grab stupid fouls. And Justin Gray will be one of the leaders of the team. Duke. Year in and year out they are one of the most dominate teams. They lose only Horvath and Duhon this year. They are bringing in top ranked prep PG, Shaun Livingston who will make a major impact on the college game. With the same lineup as last year, but throwing in Livingston at starting PG, they will be crazy. UNC will be a top team. They've got the big 3, McCants, Felton, and May all back and bringing in a top HS All-American, J.R. Smith. This team will definitely be one to watch out for not just in the ACC but in the entire nation. GTech is having almost the completely same roster but are losing one of their top players, Marvin Lewis and also are losing Clarence Moore who was good off the bench. But besides them 2, they still will have Luke, Jack, Elder, Binum, Muhammed, etc. ACC isn't even my favorite conference, mines the C-USA, but ACC will be very dominate, once again.
Honestly, I don't think it's fair to talk until more people declare for the draft. Important decisions still have to be made by the likes of Deng, Paul, and many others. However, it does look like another very good year for the ACC. My prediction would be North Carolina coming on top, with Duke being the runner up (Gee, who sees that coming? ) BTW - Good breakdown.
Does anyone know when Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College are going to start playing in the ACC? I'm just wondering because BC and GT had a great matchup in the second round this year and I wnat to see a rematch
I don't understand why everybody thinks that the ACC is so dominant. The Big East won The NCAA Men's Division I Championship this year and last. The Big East won the Women's Division I title this year and last. The Big East won the NIT last year and finished second this year. What does the ACC have to show for their dominance? To top it off it was the Big East's second place team in the regular season that won the national championship. The ACC has watered itself down with BC, Miami and VT. The BE has gotten stronger with Louisville, Cinncinnatti, Marquette and DePaul. Don't think for a minute that the ACC will dominate next year. That's what everybody said they would do this year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Does anyone know when Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College are going to start playing in the ACC? I'm just wondering because BC and GT had a great matchup in the second round this year and I wnat to see a rematch</div> Boston College will join the ACC in 2006; Virginia Tech and Miami will joing the ACC next season (2004). For an explanation as to why Boston College has to wait, here is a link to an article that explains all. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting alleghenymoon:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't understand why everybody thinks that the ACC is so dominant. The Big East won The NCAA Men's Division I Championship this year and last. The Big East won the Women's Division I title this year and last. The Big East won the NIT last year and finished second this year. What does the ACC have to show for their dominance? To top it off it was the Big East's second place team in the regular season that won the national championship. The ACC has watered itself down with BC, Miami and VT. The BE has gotten stronger with Louisville, Cinncinnatti, Marquette and DePaul. Don't think for a minute that the ACC will dominate next year. That's what everybody said they would do this year.</div> The Big East didn't win the championships, UConn and Syracuse won the championships. I agree that the Big East is strong; however, when you compare it's history to the ACC's, it's not exactly on their level. Duke and North Carolina are two of the four greatest programs of all-time. Maryland, N.C. State, Georgia Tech, and Wake Forest have all made their marks on history as well. With UConn losing their big weapons, I don't know how good the Big East will be next year. I'm thinking they'll be the second strongest conference to the ACC (who should have six top twenty-five teams).
So when Duke won the NC, the ACC didn't win the NC? The Big East had some strong teams as well this year. Pitt was 31 -5. defeated UConn easily at home and were in both of the games that they lost to them. Syracuse was strong. Providence was strong until a late season collapse. Notre Dame was no slouch. Rutgers came on at the end of the season. The BE will be good again next year. Pitt returns a good nucleus. Syracuse, Notre Dame, and UConn will all be competitve. I get tired of hearing about the ACC mystique. It sure helped them out this year didn't it?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-MAC:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Maryland will be secound with North Carolina</div> Maryland has a lot of young gunnaz, like Nik-Caner Medley, Jon Gilchrist, DJ Strawberry and Chris McCray. The only player they will be losing will be Jamar Smith. Maryland should be fun to see next season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting alleghenymoon:</div><div class="quote_post"> It sure helped them out this year didn't it?</div> Ok, so the Big East had the championship team this year. The ACC had two Final Four squads, and neither was the conference champion. If the Big East had to play the ACC on a regular basis, four of the perennial top five teams would be from the ACC. And Rutgers? Come on, get real.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And Rutgers? Come on, get real.</div> Rutgers is a good program, and a good team. They lost to UConn by 1 point this year, they beat Providence, beat Villanova, beat Notre Dame, lost to Syracuse by 2, and lost to Seton Hall by 2. Rutgers is a program on the rise. They brought in two real good freshman last season who both started, Marquis Webb and Quincy Douby. They are doing some real good recruiting, and coach Gary Waters has a five year plan, that will include the NCAA tournament.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting STCBBall3:</div><div class="quote_post">Rutgers is a good program, and a good team. They lost to UConn by 1 point this year, they beat Providence, beat Villanova, beat Notre Dame, lost to Syracuse by 2, and lost to Seton Hall by 2. Rutgers is a program on the rise. They brought in two real good freshman last season who both started, Marquis Webb and Quincy Douby. They are doing some real good recruiting, and coach Gary Waters has a five year plan, that will include the NCAA tournament.</div> However, they lose Herve Lamizana who was the only player on their team with professional potential in my opinion. Either way, Rutgers is a solid ball club. They aren't as good as the UNC's and the Duke's, but they aren't expected to be as good as them. They could fall behind the pack next year, but never expect them to become a below average ball club. Looking at everything now, it appears as if the ACC may have four out of the top five teams next season: Georgia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina, and Wake Forest. I wouldn't forget Duke either; they're not far behind even though they lost their two most promising prospects to the draft and will have to start a Freshman point guard.
ACC is by far the most athletic conference in the land. The recruits flock to these schools due to the hype, coaches, rivalries, and come on now because it's the ACC. I can't even imagine how electric the home crowd is during a conference game, I'd love to go down to a UNC-Duke game one year. Playing in the ACC is probably every big name recruit dreams of, plus their are so many traditions that go along w/ playing for one of these teams.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting pgrudo00:</div><div class="quote_post">ACC is by far the most athletic conference in the land. The recruits flock to these schools due to the hype, coaches, rivalries, and come on now because it's the ACC. I can't even imagine how electric the home crowd is during a conference game, I'd love to go down to a UNC-Duke game one year. Playing in the ACC is probably every big name recruit dreams of, plus their are so many traditions that go along w/ playing for one of these teams.</div> It seems to me like the ACC recruits are never from the area. The SEC recruits are always from the south; the Big East recruits are always from the NY-Philly-Boston-NJ area; the Pac-10 recruits are always from the West coast; the Big 12 recruits tend to be from Cal and mid-america; however, the ACC is the one conference that truely recruits all over. Like you said, I think hype has a lot to do with that. Not many kids catch Pac-10 games because they are on the west coast, and the analysts never give respect to the Big 10 or the Big 12.
Couldn't have said it better, Wave. ACC gets far more "air time" while the majority of the American public is wide awake, and they get it on the major stations. Even if there is a player that lives on the West Coast or whatever and gets to see local teams play, if they get an offer from an ACC school which is always noted as the top conference every year solely on its prestige alone then they are going to be like, "the ACC has the best players so if they want me I must be amongst them." That is probably true since ACC teams have been bringing in flocks of out of state talent for the past few years. High school guys might also sign with an ACC school for the NBA prospects.
Who else did Duke recruit because Shaun Livingston is gone and who is going to start at the point Sean Dockery or Daniel Ewing
Wake forest, thats my team. Expect big things from Chris Paul, hes a rising star and his decision making is getting better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TwinTowers:</div><div class="quote_post">Who else did Duke recruit because Shaun Livingston is gone and who is going to start at the point Sean Dockery or Daniel Ewing</div> I think DeMarcus Nelson was a recruit for them if I'm not mistaken and I'm not aware of the point guard situation. I'd imagine Ewing would start.
The ACC arguably has the top four point guards in the whole nation(Paul, Gilchrist, Jack, and Felton). They could easily make up 1/5th(maybe more) of the nation's top 25 next year(Duke, Maryland, NC State, GT, Wake, and UNC). They are the best conference in the nation and I don't think that any other conference comes close to them.
