<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So you're the Golden State Warriors, and nothing has gone right for you since the zombies seized control of Billy Owens, who seized control of Latrell Sprewell, who seized control of Garry St. Jean, who . . . Well, you know the rest. You're the Warriors, and nobody in the NBA respects you, fears you or even thinks much about you. You need a shock of super-adrenaline. You need credibility. You need to be risky, to pull off something stunning that changes everything. You need to try to trade for Kobe Bryant this off-season.</div> Full Article =========== http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...rts/8215996.htm
I've read that article. It's B.S. in my opinion. We gain credibility as soon as the warriors make the playoffs which is when Cohan croaks or sells the team. Then the warriors will get respect and then people will start talking and jumping on the bandwagon like they always do when a team gets hot or gets a future star player that's showing highlight after highlight. We don't need Kobe although it would be nice. I'd rather use the cap money to buy a bonafide star power forward or center than using that money on a flashy guard with an impending criminal trial for rape on the way. I think Kobe would get to be himself if he's on a smaller eastern team that has him scoring all the points much like Gilbert Arenas does for Washington. But if Cohan merely just signs Kobe and doesn't put the right pieces in place, the warriors will end up like the Magic. Still laughing stocks.
That trade is crap. Trading away three star players and a smart veteran? For a frequently injured player who causes chemistry problems and probably will be a ballhog? Helll naw
Did I hear a Warriors fan slamming Kobe for being a "frequently injuried player". Your a Warriors fan, your team has probably spent more days on the Injuried List than Kobe has scored points this season.
^ Stop talking like you know jack. The Warriors are frequently injured. So what's the point of them getting another player who gets injured a lot? DOESN'T MAKE SENSE (even though I'm a Kobe fan and wouldn't mind seeing him come to the Bay- but read the article and go over the trade he proposed. Stupid if you're the Warriors).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobeonfire:</div><div class="quote_post">^ Stop talking like you know jack.</div> I'm not talking like I "know jack", I just find it quite ironic that a Warrior fan would call Kobe Bryant a "frequently injuried player" when a good chunk of Warrior's players have been injuried all season long. I'm just curious though, how many games has Kobe missed in his career? Not many, so I don't know how he's "frequently injuried".
frequently injured this year that is. He seems to be playing well despite the fact he's got the trial hearings and he came in out of shape and with that persisting shoulder injury. I think the point was missed in that 4 players that have good teamwork traded for one star player with some legal troubles is going to be pretty unfair for the warriors end of the trade.
He missed 21 games this year with shoulder and knee problems and had offseason surgeries to correct his injuries. While 21 games might not be a lot, I don't want my franchise player and main offensive weapon to miss that many games when we trade away our other scorers, like was proposed in this scenario.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobeonfire:</div><div class="quote_post">He missed 21 games this year with shoulder and knee problems and had offseason surgeries to correct his injuries. While 21 games might not be a lot, I don't want my franchise player and main offensive weapon to miss that many games when we trade away our other scorers, like was proposed in this scenario.</div> Who knows you never know if he could wind up like Grant Hill. I like the way Detroit and Memphis has a lot of great players for the right price. It's all about the team game.
I would take Kobe in a heart beat. I think it would be worth the risk in many ways. King James X3- your comments made no sense. Why would we want to add a player who is constantly injured if we already have an injury prone team? I think that is what kobeonfire was implying.
What would happen to J-Rich? I mean he's improving, if Kobe came then I would think he would be wanna of the players that leave the team. If not, J-Rich and Kobe play the same position. I doubt that Kobe will leave the Lakers anyways. But if he did, I would agree with Custodian, he would mess up the team chemistry. I don't think they would be as bad the Magic, I just think they will stay where their at right now.
I can't help but look at that article and think of the Chicago Bulls around '01. How good would they have been if they kept Miller, Brand, and Artest to go along with Curry, actually, they might have even gone with Richardson if they had Miller and Brand. True, none of the Warriors are at Brand's level right now, but I think Richardson is at least as good as Artest was when he was traded (taking Artest's mental issues into consideration) and Murphy is at least as good as Miller was back then. If they resign Damp, they've got someone that's as good or better than Miller right now. I look at Richardson as a Michael Finley clone, Pietrus as an Artest clone, and Murphy as a potential 17/12 guy who can stretch the defense. I really have a hard time thinking of a guy who has a similar game to Murphy, if anyone has some suggestions, I'd love to hear 'em. The best I can come up with is a better rebounding version of Tom Chambers. But I digress... I'd love to have a team that started Speedy, Finley (in his prime), Artest, Murphy, and Damp with Dunleavy, Robinson, NVE, Cardinal, and a draft pick big man all coming off the bench. Its funny, I love Dunleavy's game, but whenever I talk about what the Warriors will look like in a couple of years, I always have Pietrus starting ahead of Dunleavy...I wonder what that means...
It means that if Dunleavy can never D it up he's going to be a scoring role player and nothing more. Which is fine because he's versatile in playing 3 positions of which he can use his size to his advantage coming off the bench. But I think he's too slow for the NBA and too inconsistent in sinking wide open shots and not good enough to shoot with a hand in his face.
In the short term I'd still rather have Dunleavy starting over Pietrus because Dunleavy can still back up Speedy at the point if he's the starting sf. If he was coming off the bench he could only back up the sf or pg.
If NVE can get hot again I'd rather have him backing up point guard and Dunleavy being the back up forward. He just needs to keep his mouth shut and cool off before he starts saying things and the media gets involved.
If Kobe somehow went to the Warriors, that would be perhaps the biggest move in their franchise's history. Not only would they improve on their win total, but their lifelong, loyal fans would definitely sell out the arena for their home games. Plus the Warriors would have their go to guy. Something they haven't really had since Gilbert Arenas and Jamison left. And another quick fact....Kobe would have maybe 4 rings..(if the Lakers indeed win the championship this year) And he'd provide that championship leadership and motivation. A guy like St. Jean, if he sticks around, should make this transaction. It would probably save his job, and he'd at least earn respect from Warriors fans for making this big of a blockbuster move.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_Fever_834:</div><div class="quote_post">If Kobe somehow went to the Warriors, that would be perhaps the biggest move in their franchise's history. Not only would they improve on their win total, but their lifelong, loyal fans would definitely sell out the arena for their home games. Plus the Warriors would have their go to guy. Something they haven't really had since Gilbert Arenas and Jamison left. And another quick fact....Kobe would have maybe 4 rings..(if the Lakers indeed win the championship this year) And he'd provide that championship leadership and motivation. A guy like St. Jean, if he sticks around, should make this transaction. It would probably save his job, and he'd at least earn respect from Warriors fans for making this big of a blockbuster move.</div> I need a laker fan's perspective on this: Say Kobe were to opt out of his contract and agree to a sign and trade to the Warriors for Richardson (assuming Damp opts out and that provides the Warriors with enough salary cap space to make the deal work). Do you think Kobe would act like "the man" once he had a team that was undisputedly his, i.e., do you think all the bush league stuff he's done like not taking shots in the Sacramento game would stop if he no longer had to prove his value to the team?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">I need a laker fan's perspective on this: Say Kobe were to opt out of his contract and agree to a sign and trade to the Warriors for Richardson (assuming Damp opts out and that provides the Warriors with enough salary cap space to make the deal work). Do you think Kobe would act like "the man" once he had a team that was undisputedly his, i.e., do you think all the bush league stuff he's done like not taking shots in the Sacramento game would stop if he no longer had to prove his value to the team?</div> If the Lakers and Warriors were to do a sign and trade, it would be unfair and insulting to the Lakers because Richardson is in no way shape or form equal to Kobe's value. I really feel however, if Kobe somehow did find a way to make it on the Warriors squad, he'd definitely act like the man. Because he'd be the #1 priority on Musselman's gameplan, he'd no longer have to be behind the shadow of another superstar on his team, and he can shoot as many attempts from the field, and nobody would complain because all he'd be trying to do is help the team win.
Just for the record, we don't need Kobe Bryant to sell out games. We are selling out games already and we haven't made the playoffs in 10 years, thats dedication.
