<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KarmaCav:</div><div class="quote_post">List of what to do! 1. Draft smart. Point guard is probably the smartest move if a player at that position is available, who is not a reach. 2. Free Agency. Sign that swingmen shooter we all crave. Defensive abilities preferred. 3. Free Agency. If point guard not drafted, look for point with range on jumper. If we do draft a pg, look at athletic big man for behind Boozer. 4. Coaching. Silas needs at least one decent assistant coach! 5. Let go. Williams is to be cut loose. Dangle Ollie and Newble out, and test the market for Wagner and Battie.</div> 1. I'd have to agree with what others have said and say either Gordon or Harris, preferably Gordon. Harris scares me a little because he played mostly off the ball in school and might not be ready to be an NBA PG right away. 2. Jackson would work well, although I wouldn't pay him much more than Williams money. 3. Swift would be a great fit here, how much will he command? How much money do the Cavs figure to have? I'd rather have a tall, athletic big like Swift, than a shorter one like A. Williams.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CP20:</div><div class="quote_post">1. I'd have to agree with what others have said and say either Gordon or Harris, preferably Gordon. Harris scares me a little because he played mostly off the ball in school and might not be ready to be an NBA PG right away. 2. Jackson would work well, although I wouldn't pay him much more than Williams money. 3. Swift would be a great fit here, how much will he command? How much money do the Cavs figure to have? I'd rather have a tall, athletic big like Swift, than a shorter one like A. Williams.</div> The obvious thing is we cant sign both Jackson and Swift. But there is a possibilty of sign and trades to get both. This would need to involve Wagner, Battie, Williams. Not all but a combination. The more likely scenario is that we snare Jackson in free agency and aquire a Aaron Williams type through a trade or free agency. Both are neccessary, however that shooter is a priority.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CP20:</div><div class="quote_post">1. I'd have to agree with what others have said and say either Gordon or Harris, preferably Gordon. Harris scares me a little because he played mostly off the ball in school and might not be ready to be an NBA PG right away. 2. Jackson would work well, although I wouldn't pay him much more than Williams money. 3. Swift would be a great fit here, how much will he command? How much money do the Cavs figure to have? I'd rather have a tall, athletic big like Swift, than a shorter one like A. Williams.</div> Forgive me, I'm a little slow. But you just lost me. Last time I looked Swift and Williams were both 6"9".........Same size as Boozer
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting tankster:</div><div class="quote_post">Forgive me, I'm a little slow. But you just lost me. Last time I looked Swift and Williams were both 6"9".........Same size as Boozer</div> Maybe Swift is 6'9 without shoes, while Aaron Williams is 6'9 with shoes. LOL I'd love Swift, but we dont neccessarily have to have a high quality guy behind Booz. We could spend money better elsewhere. Someone like Aaron Williams would be ideal for that role.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">how d'you know the height with/without the shoes?</div> I was being funny. Or at least trying. Lets just say Swift can be called taller because of his hops over Williams.
For Consideration: Point Guards: Earl Watson-Grizz already have JWill and they drafted Troy Bell in the 1st round last year. Watson would be a definite improvement over Ollie. Draft Nelson or Gordon Sg/Sf's: Jim Jackson-Veteran, dependable, can shoot the three well, rebounds well for his position. Pair him and Lebron and you've got two of the best ohio prep players ever. He was a bad fit on the old Cavs of 3 years ago, but would make a lot of sense with this squad. Is he a FA or would we have to trade for him? Brent Barry- Alot of people around here have been pimping him and his 3pt % says it all. Trade for James Posey- Another Ohio Prep Player. Athletic, plays great D and can score. Trade for Ray Allen. Would have to give up alot for him and pay alot to keep him, but Seattle may want to get something for him before his deal runs out next year and he is one of the best pure shooter/scorer in the League. PF/C Marcus Camby: Just look at his numbers from this year and envision him, Z, and Boozer all logging 32 min/game at the 4 and 5 spots. Check his rebounds per 48 minutes and blocks per 48 minutes. And he stayed healthy all year.
Jim Jackson : still is under contract and was a very valuable steadying influence on Houston. Dont think we could snatch him. Brent Barry : He's the prototype shooter we need. However I dont think we can entise him here over Denver or Seattle. Starting to get on a bit too. Ray Allen : Wouldn't trade for him as we probably give up too much (Z). Worth a look as a free agent next year for sure! James Posey : I really like this guy, but so do Memphis. Great defender, ok shooter and can get to the hole at will. Out of reach. Marcus Camby : Costs too much to be our backup. Chris Anderson is worth a look from Denver though, purely for his athletisism. Earl Watson : If we can get him cheap, go for it. This is of course we dont draft a point. Watson has some range which is something we need right now.
I don't want Nelson, way too small. Why not keep McInnis draft Gordan, and sign S-JAX, that's all we really need to do, even though I do want Swift, but I just don't see him ending up here.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Amherstcavsfan:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't want Nelson, way too small. Why not keep McInnis draft Gordan, and sign S-JAX, that's all we really need to do, even though I do want Swift, but I just don't see him ending up here.</div> That would be a good off season if we did get S-JAX and Gordon. Seeing we have no 2nd rounder this year, acquiring a cheap backup power forward could be neccessary. We lack one more body to go with Battie and Diop on the bench.
"Marcus Camby : Costs too much to be our backup. Chris Anderson is worth a look from Denver though, purely for his athletisism." If he opts out of his deal, than the open market will dictate what he gets. But Iwould envision the 96 Minutes between PF and C, split up to average a 32 minutes rotation between Z, Boozer, and Camby With Camby coming off the bench but receiving equal minutes. Although he is only 6 ft, I just see Nelson as more of a protypical pg who would understand how to direct the game through Z and 'Bron more than Gordon. Also, Nelsons Steals Per Game, Assists Per Game, and fg% were all higher than Gordons. The assists per game is especially telling, because Nelson did not have the dominant inside force to feed the ball to, and therefore his assists relied more on teamates hit the outside shot, whereas Gordon was able to get a lot of his simply by finding Okafor.
I still see the potential dollars Camby will attract, particulary the way he has lead the Nuggets with his defense. He was rather healthy to for once, so I see a few teams taking a risk and paying him some dollars. It would be silly for us to enter into a bidding war for his services when other needs are higher. I do see your point though mirORich with the sharing of minutes. We'd certainly dominate the boards with Z, Booz and Camby rotating. As for Nelson. I dont mind him as a player, but at 10, he may be a reach! Sign and trade Wagner and pick for Stephen Jackson??? Ollie for Aaron Williams??? If this was to happen, we'd have the flexibility to give Booz his pay day this summer! Thoughts......
Heard this on the radio, and I don't think this will ever....ever happen but here is what someone proposed Z, Wagner, 1st Round Pick for Tmac... Like I said wasn't me who thought this up, have at it guys, hack it up, chew it up, digest it, then spit it out.
that deal as crazy as it may sound to the casual fan, is not that far fetched. Tmac clearly wants out of orlando, that is well documented. So why not pick up probably the best offensive center in the east, a potential star 2 guard in wagner to replace tmac (though obviously there is no comparison between the 2), and another top 10 draft pick this yr. it would make sense for ORLANDO to do this, crazy as it sounds. now, does it make sense for us to do this? why am i possibly questioning the acquisition of the best offensive player in the nba?? simple, tmac is not a star, tmac is an absolute SUPERSTAR, one of the 5 best players in the nba, this guy MUST be the guy runnin the show, the go to guy, all that stuff. we already have that guy, he wears #23. Tmac has already had his fill of playin "scottie pippen" in toronto, why would he wanna do that now in cleveland. however, everyone talked about how great it was going to be when tmac and grant hill signed in orlando. tmac could have that type of opportunity rejuvenated if this deal were to go down. this is definitely some food for thought to say the least. i wouldnt sleep until the season opener due to excessive excitement if this went down.
Mixed feelings about the TMac talk. I would love to see him come here and destroy the NBA with a LBJ/TMac duo. It's kinda like what LA has going on. Shaq runs the show but it's Kobe's team. So in LBJ and TMac terms, who would be the one that runs the show? They both would want 20+ shots a game. What would happen to Boozer's scoring average? Probably stay the same as this year and forget about that 20ppg preditcion we made for him. But another thought being that since Z will be gone, who would start center? Battie???
James does not need shots, T-Mac does to be effective. I just don't see T-Mac being a team player yet, maybe playing with Bron would do it, but I doubt it. T-Mac will always be Tracy McBaby.
as much as i would love to see it, i really like the group we have now, id kinda like to see them progress another yr and see what happens.
If we had T-Mac teamed on the wing with James, I guess it really wouldn't matter who we had at center. Throw DeClerq there it doesn't matter. Hate to lose Z though. But if Z was to be traded, I have always demanded a star in return. Well this delivers my demands. Anyhows wont happen.
Adding T-Mac (as talented as he is) would not make us a title contender. We would instantly become a donut team unless Diop could magically become the next Theo Ratliff.
Well put CBBI. Defensively we would still really suck, and with no post presense, we will have many off nights with no post players. Sorry Booz is not a good post scorer yet!
