Just wanting to know what you guys think about Lee Nailon.. Should we re-sign him because this guy can score off the Bench.. Remember Lee is the Key! I put this on ESPN about Mark Madsen I'm pretty sure he is a Free Agent and he is a solid backup and we could use him instead of that punk Aaron Williams..
If we can get Lee Nailon in at the minimum, it is worth a look, as Sheed says, he's a scorer. His defense is quite ordinary, but in patches we can work around that. His ability to break down his defender was almost unique in this Cavs squad. His relationship with Silas also works in his favour. Another factor is who else we pick up in free agency. Our first priority is getting that shooter on wing. Secondly is another big body to play behind Boozer. Battie and Diop will not get us through another season, as Williams backed up here to. So if we can get minimum deals on Nailon and a power forward as well as that shooter, we have done well.
Nailon is a player that I really don't care if he's back or not. If he signs for the minmum and accepts a role at the end of the bench I could live with that. I'm hoping for an upgrade at SF. Nailon is a bad defender who really doesn't have deep shooting range. He's too small for PF and too slow and not athletic enough for SF. He can provide some scoring punch once in a while but really isn't a key to the Cavs future or their success. Aaron Williams isn't a punk. He's a hard working player willing to accept a role. I've never seen any negative attitude or any negative things written about him. The 70 point thing with the Pistons is no big deal.
I agree with you on all accounts there Narl. Concerning Nailon, I wouldn't mind seeing him back, but only at the minimum. What we could have then is, hopefully that wing shooter, and behind him Nailon and Newble. If we are looking for some instant offense, throw in Lee. If we are looking to consolidate what the starters are doing, then Newble is the answer. Lee isn't the key, but he is useful at the end of the bench. As for the power forward situation, something needs to be done. Remember Eric Williams helped out here a bit and he should be gone. Battie's knees cannot be relied on, and Diop cannot play here. God help us again if Booz goes down and we haven't addressed it. That Aaron Williams for Kevin Ollie deal would be handy for both ball clubs, particulary for us. If not, we do need to sign some athletic body at the minimum as we seem like we are drafting a guard (word on the street). Like I have mentioned before, if we draft well, sign a shooter, and sign a backup big, we have had an excellant offseason. Over to you Pax.
I'm all in for Aaron Williams if it helps the Cavaliers out.. I personally just don't like him.. I'd like Mark Madsen instead.. but whatever helps the Cavs out..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Cleveland_Sheed:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm all in for Aaron Williams if it helps the Cavaliers out.. I personally just don't like him.. I'd like Mark Madsen instead.. but whatever helps the Cavs out..</div> Good to see you put the team before yourself! Taking one for the team. There's not enough fans like you. But seriously, this backup power forward thing is a need, which to me needs to be addressed this summer. Just need a bargain athletic big body. Someone who can come in and rest Boozer, and be some sort of defensive presence. Here is a list of possible candidates. Not all are free agents Aaron Williams Brian Scalabrine Mark Madsen Jerome Moiso Chris Anderson Lonny Baxtor Keon Clark (expensive) Donnell Harvey Zendon Hamilton Eduardo Najera Mehmet Okur (expensive) Michael Ruffin Darius Songaila Ansu Sesay Stromile Swift (ultimate selection) Chris Wilcox A number of these players are out of reach, but are options possibly in trades involving Wagner or Battie!
I think if a player is added to come off the bench at PF-C, he has to be athletic. The Cavs interior players aren't the most athletic, quickest players around. Swift would be nice but I'm not sure the Cavs could get him. A trade that's been thrown out there in the past by some posters is Wagner to the Clippers for Wilcox. I would make that move. I'm not sold on Wagner and Wilcox really improved in his 2nd year and is a very athletic player. Keon Clark is interesting. he might not be as expensive as he was in the past. He had some injury problems and some questions about attitude in the past but maybe Silas could get him going in the right direction. He might be worth a look if he doesn't cost a ton. I think we all agree that the Cavs #1 priority this offseason is to add some shooters. Paxson has gone over 2 years without adding any perimeter shooting. I'd like to get a starter for either SF or SG and add another shooter off the bench. It would open up so much for the Cavs and make the offense so much better to have players who can knock down jumpers consistently. It's amazing they could win 35 games without any consistent perimeter threats.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NarlCavs:</div><div class="quote_post"> I think we all agree that the Cavs #1 priority this offseason is to add some shooters. Paxson has gone over 2 years without adding any perimeter shooting. I'd like to get a starter for either SF or SG and add another shooter off the bench. It would open up so much for the Cavs and make the offense so much better to have players who can knock down jumpers consistently. It's amazing they could win 35 games without any consistent perimeter threats.</div> Exactly Narl. There was talk a year back involving Davis for Wally. We were mainly only against it because of Wally's contract. Still he is too expensive for a role player (a good one at that). Here's my wish list Shooting Guard/Small Forward 1. Ginobili (unlikely to pry him from the Spurs) 2. S-JAX (we are a chance, but likely heading to the Bulls) 3. Turkoglu (only if we dont pay big) 4. B.Barry (see Turkoglu) 5. Trade for one (Redd, Allen) Backup athletic big man 1. Stromile Swift (the ultimate pick) 2. Keon Clark (If the price is right) 3. Chris Anderson 4. Okur (too pricey) 5. Trade for one (Wilcox, Songaila)
wouldn't it be awesome to get another shooter like Price? I can't wait till we do sign a shooter so it'll stretch the D out..
I read a few days ago that Silas talked with Price about coming in and working with players on their shooting. It would be worth a try. Karma, It seems like Jackson, Turkoglu and Barry would be the most realistic options for the Cavs. I'd prefer Jackson like you would. Hedo seems too inconsistent for me and has never lived up to what he was supposed to be. I guess I could live with him since he is still young. I wouldn't count out the Cavs looking at Wally again. I think Paxson likes him but would have to sell Silas on him. Wally isn't the greatest defender. The thing that really sucks about him is his huge contract. I don't know if I'd want to take that on if I were the Cavs. His shooting ability would be a nice addition though.
Wally would be a great addition, but the cost is too high as Narl pointed out. We also would be hoping for someone a little more athletic so as to have a better perimeter defender. S-JAX provides reasonable defense, the shooting (not at the same level as Wally), good passing, plays into the system and will probably come alot cheaper. He is a legitemate 3rd scorer to go with James and Z, and can throw in 20 points on any given night. Z's efficiency would rise even more with a player who you cannot sag against. This shooter is a must fix. Personally I cannot see us being able to hold out another season waiting on a Ray Allen.
so do I, so do I.. What about Austin Croshere If we could get him he can shoot provide energy and he can do it all.. it would be a great addition and he is the forgotton man over there in Indiana.. I dont know his contract situation but he would be perfect.. James Posey Maybe we could swing a deal to get him.. Wagner/Newble/Ollie for James Posey and Watson.. i dont know.. I really like Posey and he could be good here..
Croshere : comes with a bad contract. Posey : Memphis just resigned him. They love his hustle D, and his 3 bomb is improving. Tore us to shreds this year. He cant be had. What are people thoughts towards Wesley 'Missing' Person? If we miss out on the guys we really want on free agency, could he be had on a short (2 year) contract on the cheap, till fill that void? His lack of D doesn't help but....
Wes Person is very probable and seems like a move Pax would actually do. Played great here earlier in his career. He would pretty much be a shadow of Reggie Miller on our squad. The old guy off the bench that can drain it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Cleveland_Sheed:</div><div class="quote_post">whats bad about Austin's contract..</div> Not sure the figure Sheed, but its well over his worth. He would be a nice addition, but that money could definately be better spent. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Mr_Infante. Wes Person is very probable and seems like a move Pax would actually do. Played great here earlier in his career. He would pretty much be a shadow of Reggie Miller on our squad. The old guy off the bench that can drain it. </div> The likelyhood of us signing Ginobili, S-JAX, Turkoglu or Barry to me are slim. Signing a vet like Person to a two year deal at smallish cost might be a good move.
How about Richie Frahm, good defender at the 2 and he can shoot, hardly anyone even know he's there. I don't know if he can be a starter but he wouldn't be bad as a backup. Only if Brent Barry could be aqcuired, but that a little much, Jon Barry is also on the market and he'd be a good guy to plug at the 2 spot on the team. Fred Hoiberg woulfn't be bad either but as a backup. Bob Sura is also still on the market, good defender and has all the aspects to his game, rebounding, passing, can score decently and can shoot. He's also not just a PG, he's a combo, he can play the one or the 2 effectively. Trading for Michael Redd isn't going to happen, unless they're getting Boozer or something, and Ray Allen also isn't happening. Keon Clark will also not be expensive, too many injuries and with all his turmoil the most he'll be making is mid level. I think what is really needed is a 2 guard so LJ can move to the 3. I thought Josh Childress (from the draft) wouldn't be too bad either. I think I just saw Nailon and defense in the same line, please. This guy is one of the league's or maybe even the league's worst defender. He can light it up on offense, but he's the slowest footed player ever, can't play a lick of defense, don't be fooled. One moe thing, because Rasual Butler has been with Miami for 2 years, under the CBA, they now have the right to match any offer up to mid-level I think. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Earl Watson : If we can get him cheap, go for it. This is of course we dont draft a point. Watson has some range which is something we need right now.</div> Not too sure about Watson having some range, his range is just as good, actually maybe worse than Wagner's. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Swift would be nice but I'm not sure the Cavs could get him. A trade that's been thrown out there in the past by some posters is Wagner to the Clippers for Wilcox. I would make that move. I'm not sold on Wagner and Wilcox really improved in his 2nd year and is a very athletic player.</div> A lot of people are thinking Swift will be cheap, he's not going to be cheap, will probably be making more than mid-level, about 6 million next year. Chris Wilcox for Wagner would never go down, that's not even exciting for the Clippers, they've needed a real PG for a while and all the have now is Eddie House, Keyoon Dooling and Jaric, why would they want Wagner? Brent Barry is also considering going to Denver very seriously.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"I don't know how he would fit into the Warriors' rotation, but Brent Barry, a Concord De La Salle graduate, has let it be known that he would love to return home, especially in a Mullin regime. But Barry would have to come for the mid-level exception, starting at about $5 million, which is less than he might get from several teams that are under the salary cap." San Jose Mercury-News</div> http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml Brent Barry at that price! No thanks. Swift will be out of our price range as we are focussing it seems on that shooter. Keon Clark may be a chance as his stocks are low currently.
