In all honesty, I agree..He was being bashed for taking too many shots, and one game, although it was an important game, he didnt take shots, people bash him. Was he trying to make a statement, I dont know but I do know is that He was well-defended and Who knows, maybe his shot wasnt falling in warmups, trust me...He will be huge in the playoffs
lol ok so let me get this straight, because im new, im not as big a laker fan as lakerfever? very funny im asking the man to stick though hard times with kobe, instead of pre-judging him on one event that occured. HES GOING THROUGH HARD TIMES. ENOUGH SAID. This is what the rest of the LEAGUE WANTS. For us to STIR things up, go against the lakers and cause as much turmoil as possible, Stupid LA TIMES reporters should get fired for consistently doing that. we cant be doing this, the KINGS fans are smiling right now because we have another circus act that is being blown up from NOTHING. <font size="1"><font color="Red">Use the 'edit' feature next time -Ice</font></font>
This is what the rest of the LEAGUE WANTS. For us to STIR things up, go against the lakers and cause as much turmoil as possible, Stupid LA TIMES reporters should get fired for consistently doing that. we cant be doing this, the KINGS fans are smiling right now because we have another circus act that is being blown up from NOTHING.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lakers:</div><div class="quote_post">it sucks because youve already set judgement on KOBE by 3 stupid games where he just didnt play well. What kind of crap is that? you should be praising him for everything he has done for the lakers, not putting him down in his time of struggling. Shaq has done that too, been mad at phil, and refused to step up, i know this for a fact, it happened plenty of times when he would'nt get enough touches, and he would try to prove a point to the team. Just remember, stick to the man, hes going through hard times man. Try to have a RAPE allegation on your back, and still focus on playing basketball, hell still focus on doing ANYTHING. A RAPE CASE MAN!!! IT DOESNT GET ANY WORSE THEN THAT, BESIDES MURDER. so for one second, instead of being a selfish laker fan who just wants to win win and win, feel for your favorite player, and stick by his side through these tough times, he needs all the fans he could get right now.</div> I'm not setting judgement on Kobe by only three games. Kobe has been doing this many times during his career, and I['m sure you've heard all the Jordan comparisons he's been receiving. Trust me, I'm a huge Lakers fan, Kobe Bryant is one of my favorite players alongside Michael Jordan, but when superstar players get paid millions of dollars, and thousands of fans come out to watch you perform, and you'd rather act and complain like a child, and prove a statement to your coach...then I have a serious problem with that player. I'd rather have Shaq get mad at Phil Jackson because Shaq is priority #1, he's the guy that has to receive as many touches then everybody else, he's our bread and butter. If Shaq doesn't receive these touches, and dominate opponent's centers in the low post, how will we win more championships? I understand what Kobe is going through right now with his legal problems, but you know what? This is all his fault. Now, I don't watch to blow this subject up any longer because it's already been discussed and beaten thousand of times already, but if he kept his thingy in his pants, and got his shoulder surgery in Colorado, he'd never have to go home to his wife feeling paranoid that he'd be going to jail. Plain and simple. I'll always stick by his side through it all, I'm just a Laker fan, but I'm not the man who gives the verdict.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_Fever_834:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not setting judgement on Kobe by only three games. Kobe has been doing this many times during his career, and I['m sure you've heard all the Jordan comparisons he's been receiving. Trust me, I'm a huge Lakers fan, Kobe Bryant is one of my favorite players alongside Michael Jordan, but when superstar players get paid millions of dollars, and thousands of fans come out to watch you perform, and you'd rather act and complain like a child, and prove a statement to your coach...then I have a serious problem with that player. I'd rather have Shaq get mad at Phil Jackson because Shaq is priority #1, he's the guy that has to receive as many touches then everybody else, he's our bread and butter. If Shaq doesn't receive these touches, and dominate opponent's centers in the low post, how will we win more championships? I understand what Kobe is going through right now with his legal problems, but you know what? This is all his fault. Now, I don't watch to blow this subject up any longer because it's already been discussed and beaten thousand of times already, but if he kept his thingy in his pants, and got his shoulder surgery in Colorado, he'd never have to go home to his wife feeling paranoid that he'd be going to jail. Plain and simple. I'll always stick by his side through it all, I'm just a Laker fan, but I'm not the man who gives the verdict.</div> i dont care if its been talked about 1000 times, im new here, i HAVENT TALKED ABOUT ONCE WITH ANYONE BESIDES YOU, so dont give me that BS. You are not a laker or kobe fan, and it shows. No REAL KOBE fan would say what you just said about him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lakers:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont care if its been talked about 1000 times, im new here, i HAVENT TALKED ABOUT ONCE WITH ANYONE BESIDES YOU, so dont give me that BS. You are not a laker or kobe fan, and it shows. No REAL KOBE fan would say what you just said about him.</div> I'm not a Laker or Kobe fan??? No real Kobe fan would say what I just said about him?? Well if that's the case, we have a lot of biased, blind, and clueless fans here then.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_Fever_834:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not a Laker or Kobe fan??? No real Kobe fan would say what I just said about him?? Well if that's the case, we have a lot of biased, blind, and clueless fans here then.</div> if you really like the man, you will stick with him through THICK AND THIN, GOOD AND BAD TIMES, you are one of those people that once he falls, you ridicule him and follow the crowd by talking smack about him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lakers:</div><div class="quote_post">if you really like the man, you will stick with him through THICK AND THIN, GOOD AND BAD TIMES, you are one of those people that once he falls, you ridicule him and follow the crowd by talking smack about him.</div> No son, let me just finish up the quote for you. If you're a big fan of Kobe Bryant, you'll be able to appreciate his efforts on the basketball court. His playoff games, and the championships he's brought to the city of Los Angeles. And if you're also a Kobe fan, you can feel free to criticize him for his bad games instead of worshiping the man, and you can BOO him for every game in which he totally screws up not only on his stats, but what he does around the team. That's what a true Kobe fan is. I'm a true Laker fan, I know what the hell I'm talking about.
Lakers, I know that your a Lakers fan and a Kobe fan as well. Laker Fever, your a Lakers fan but certainly not a Kobe fan. You should really change your sig and avatar. We all know that if it wasn't for the sports writers, media etc. these topics about Kobe being selfish and bad for the Lakers organization would have never happened. This year is a very unusual year for Kobe Bryant obviously and he has had games where he'd perform well for awihle then have just a horrific game. He still isn't himself and we shouldn't judge what really happened and why he did what he did. Theres differences between criticizing and trashing a player. <font color="Blue">Please learn to use the edit button. --Rudeezy</font>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JLee348:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers, I know that your a Lakers fan and a Kobe fan as well. Laker Fever, your a Lakers fan but certainly not a Kobe fan. You should really change your sig and avatar. We all know that if it wasn't for the sports writers, media etc. these topics about Kobe being selfish and bad for the Lakers organization would have never happened. This year is a very unusual year for Kobe Bryant obviously and he has had games where he'd perform well for awihle then have just a horrific game. He still isn't himself and we shouldn't judge what really happened and why he did what he did.</div> Ok JLee, so you'd rather take sides without hearing what I'm saying. Pretty smart. I am a Laker and a Kobe fan. I'm just not one of those blind, dellusional, clueless fans that worship Kobe like a god or something. Any Laker fan should realize that he's not playing team basketball, he's letting his ego take complete control over him rather than put the team first. And Laker fans shouldn't criticize him about that?? Very interesting. Kobe Bryant is my favorite player. That's why I have my avatar and signature about him. But a true Kobe fan should be able to admire, criticize, and slam him all at the same time.
Your hating on Kobe Bryant man. Your saying it would be better if Kobe left the Lakers organization. Your saying you would want your favorite player leaving the team that you love? A real Kobe Bryant fan would of course admire at Kobe's brilliance yet criticize him for his occasional mistakes, but how dare you even say he should leave the Lakers organization because he's tarnishing the organization. What kinda fan claims that Kobe Bryant is ruining the Lakers but still is his favorite player?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JLee348:</div><div class="quote_post">Your hating on Kobe Bryant man. Your saying it would be better if Kobe left the Lakers organization. Your saying you would want your favorite player leaving the team that you love? A real Kobe Bryant fan would of course admire at Kobe's brilliance yet criticize him for his occasional mistakes, but how dare you even say he should leave the Lakers organization because he's tarnishing the organization. What kinda fan claims that Kobe Bryant is ruining the Lakers but still is his favorite player?</div> When I said Kobe Bryant should leave the organization was out of complete frustration from the Sacramento game in which he showed no heart, and no competitive fire in his eyes. If Kobe Bryant would allow his egomaniac self, and his pride to compete in basketball games without putting all eleven guys first, then yeah...this organization would be better off without him. Let's just hope things change for the better during the 2004 playoffs.
Ok enough with the "I'm a real Laker fan and you're not" stuff, how can u even question Laker_Fever to not be one? Rediculous.. Though I don't support all of what he feels about this situation, I don't see how any of that points to him not being a true "Kobe fan." He does support Kobe's play when he does well, and I don't agree with criticising him every time he plays bad, he does have the right to criticize him and that doesn't take away anything from him being a fan. Supposedly there isn't even a situation between Kobe and anyone else, and no one's even sure anymore so I don't get why people still are talking about the "childish" talk. I've posted this many times, but we don't know whats really going on, it might just be dificult time in his life for all we know. Until someone actual credibility (not writers who aren't even around when situations occur) I don't think anyone should be doubting him.
i dont doubt that he is a fan, but like you stated, at this time of the season, instead of getting frustrated and starting to doubt kobe and the lakers, we should stick by them. Dont you understand, the whole league wants this, they want everyone to doubt LA, and us as fans should be doing the opposite, we should be saying SCREW what everyone thinks or says, we are going to win the championship, aside from all the hoopla that is surrounding the lakers as an organization, we need to be supportive or whats going on. Have you ever tried playing basketball under circumstances that are uncontrollable, such as your girlfriend breaks up with you, and your heartbroken, try playing under those conditions, its bad enough, this guy has to play with a RAPE case on his shoulder, a RAPE CASE MAN, wether its his fault or not, i could be a total punk to my girlfriend, cheat on her behind her back, have her find out, and i wouldnt be able to do anything anything for a long time i were in love with her. Its tough man, and we dont need more people, besides REPORTERS, COACHES, FANS, HATERS, LA TIMES COLUMNISTS, AND EVERYONE ELSE putting them out. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, THE LAKERS WILL WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP, they will glue it together come playoff time, youll see. Thats how it is with some of these lakers fan, when they lose, its like you give up on them and the sky starts to fall, but when they win, everyone is on their bandwagon, it doenst work that way, through thick and thin my friend...though thick and thin. Michael Jordan was a great player, he was selfish a lot of times to help his team win, he had to be, he was the#1 perimiter scorer on that team, there is no one else to count on, hench, lakers with kobe, but at that time, they didnt ridicule him as much, you know why? because there werent internet message boards, media hype, and around the world coverage that would allow all that. Nowadays, the media says eveyrhting and knows eveyrthing the day it happens, its all over the internet, and people overreact to it too quick.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_Fever_834:</div><div class="quote_post">When I said Kobe Bryant should leave the organization was out of complete frustration from the Sacramento game in which he showed no heart, and no competitive fire in his eyes. If Kobe Bryant would allow his egomaniac self, and his pride to compete in basketball games without putting all eleven guys first, then yeah...this organization would be better off without him. Let's just hope things change for the better during the 2004 playoffs.</div> great players are egomaniacs, great players are confident and cocky, great players are full of PRIDE.. just ask michael jordan.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JLee348:</div><div class="quote_post">Your hating on Kobe Bryant man. Your saying it would be better if Kobe left the Lakers organization. Your saying you would want your favorite player leaving the team that you love? A real Kobe Bryant fan would of course admire at Kobe's brilliance yet criticize him for his occasional mistakes, but how dare you even say he should leave the Lakers organization because he's tarnishing the organization. What kinda fan claims that Kobe Bryant is ruining the Lakers but still is his favorite player?</div> seriously...well said.
Lakers and JLee348 are you the same person? lol you guys basically repeat what the other says, both make posts that are two or three words just because you agree with them.. I guess I do agree with you that everything is much more blown up because of the internet and like you said the message boards though, much more information is out there and it doesn't help the rumor stuff going around, its much easier to just come up with bs now.
