What are we missing?

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  1. B.e.

    B.e. The One Who Score Touchdowns and Spikes Mics

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    What do you think Philly needs to become a contendor again?I think we need more consistanty on offense examlpe-AI needs to get his fg % up and work on his J.
     
  2. Erin

    Erin JBB JustBBall Member

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    If AI is still here next season... we need him to PLAY. No BS excuses. We also need him to share the ball with the younger guys like Sammy, Willie, etc. And, as always, a decent second scorer and for the love of God please trade DC and get some kind of value. ANYONE is better. And they've got to do something with Todd MacCulloch. I love that guy but we can't continue to have him on the roster if we don't what his future will be.
     
  3. Sasha

    Sasha ...since the beginning.

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    Offense, drama, more passing, WHAT?! We need a defensive presence! Have any of you noticed this, we have offense, we have the top scorer in the league, a great floor leader, we need a defensive presence in the paint. Remember the years of Theo Ratliff, Dikembe Mutumbo, Matt Geiger, Tyrone Hill, etc. Those were the years when we actually made the playoffs, when we didnt lose by 20 points to under .500 teams. We also need a better leader off the court, not just this being a coach, as I think Chris can do a good job with the team, but a player to step up and motivate the team. This meaning from the get-go, from game 1 to game 82. It can be Allen, or Sammy, whoever, just to give us a kick in the right direction.
     
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    starman85 JBB JustBBall Member

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    I think the Sixers need to rebuild in the mold of the old Pistons a la the Bad Boys. They don't need to rough up the opposition, but they should slow down the pace of games and let AI run the offense on every play, whether its scoring or passing. But this 'give it to AI and clear out the way' just doesn't cut it anymore.

    I know it's rough, but I think they need to get hard on AI and convince him he needs to playmake more. Equally hard is dishing Eric Snow, since he can actually get something in return. Get a defensive two who can actually score. Eddie Jones is an option, though I'm sure the Sixers want to get younger than that. Maybe a Ronald Murray. Or maybe they can start Willie Green if they think he's developed enough. Keep Glenn Robinson and get him the ball more and squeeze all the offense you can out of him. Kenny Thomas is a strong four and Dalembert is improving at the five, but what you need to do is improve that bench. Marc Jackson had some good years, but now I don't know. You probably have to get rid of him. See what you can get for Aaron McKey in terms of big men, try to get some draft picks out of a combo of him and DC. They need some good mid size defenders, like they had with George Lynch before trading for DC.

    Once they've done most of that, I think that they'll be a solid team. If they can convince AI that averaging a 20-10 in points and assists is as valuable as scoring 30 points per game, then they'll be vastly improved. Getting 23-4 points out of Glenn Robinson doesn't hurt either, and makes up for some of that scoring loss from AI. Willie Green and Kenny Thomas will fill in to make up the rest of the scoring deficit. Thomas and Dalembert need to own the paint. With all of that, there's no way that they won't contend to some degree. With those old Pistons, you knew that the Pistons would use a team effort, but in crunch time Isiah could still take over. That's what the Sixers need.
     
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    $tarbury 3 JBB JustBBall Member

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    we need people like AI, Marc Jackson and who ever the sixers bring in next to be the number 2 option to play at least 70 games for use also we need to get a coach that centers around defensive play and working the ball around to everyone and not just get the ball to iverson every time he is in the game that is why i believe they were lsoing this season because iverson was hurt and when he played no one stepped up they just gave him the ball play after play and when he shot 36% from the field and had a bad game they would lose they were depending on him to much
     
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    Sasha ...since the beginning.

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    The team as a whole thinks they can only depend on Allen, when he is gone they lose confidence in other guys, and lose. They need to learn to play without him to some extent.
     
  7. B.e.

    B.e. The One Who Score Touchdowns and Spikes Mics

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    Maybe sometimes but they have beaten good teams without AI this season like the T-Wolves,Spurs.But they're record was actually good when AI and Bigg Dogg were out.
     
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    $tarbury 3 JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe sometimes but they have beaten good teams without AI this season like the T-Wolves,Spurs.But they're record was actually good when AI and Bigg Dogg were out.</div>
    first time he was out they went 1-9 mostly because it was a western coast trip then later in the season when he was out they performed well i think that they learned to play without him as they went along thats what im tring to say that when he is out of the lineup they learned to step up but as soon as he was reinserted into the lineup they once again just gave him the ball and stood there no ball movement forced shots and bad shots is all they took
     
  9. Avery

    Avery JBB IDIOT!! GOSH!!!

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    Before we get any defensive precense or anything like that. We need a coach! We have basically the same roster from last seasono r probably better. But we had a coach named.....Randy Ayers. [​IMG] Come on. Look what happen. Yeah we had injuries and what not but come on not making Playoff's. Thats a little too much. If we need any type of sucess we will need to get a coach first before anything else happens.

    King set to begin search for 76ers' new head coach

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The team as a whole thinks they can only depend on Allen, when he is gone they lose confidence in other guys, and lose. They need to learn to play without him to some extent.</div>

    They could. We've seen what they could do. They beat the Mavs, Spurs, Pistons etc...All without Allen Iverson. If only they can play the same way when he comes back. We'll be fine. I dont know. But maybe when Iverson play's they dont play as hard. Knowing that they have one of the best players in the league on their team, and they wont havet to do as much.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Once they've done most of that, I think that they'll be a solid team. If they can convince AI that averaging a 20-10 in points and assists is as valuable as scoring 30 points per game, then they'll be vastly improved.</div>

    I agree with that 100%. He'll be alot more dangerous. If he wasnt averaging 26 Points he would be VERY capable of doing so. He's was averaging 6.8 Assists this season. Which is pretty good since he's averaging 26 Points.
     
  10. B.e.

    B.e. The One Who Score Touchdowns and Spikes Mics

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    Yeah I think that was the highest for 2 guards.
     
  11. lazygun

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    there is a lot to improve on the team.
    first of all: i think they need to fill the holes on D!
    hole no.1: i am an ai-fan but with 6'0'' he is way too small 4 a sg. most sg could shoot over him and there is nothing he could do. that is why e.snow always has to guard the opposing sg. then the sixers are undersized almost against every team in backcourt.
    how to fill that hole? i think sixers have 3 choices:
    1. ai has to learn to play pg(sure snow would come off bench if it helps the team) and start mckie as sg
    2. start snow and mckie and let ai come off bench(we all know how realistic that is [​IMG] )
    3. get a pg that is around 6'6'' or taller(for example: trade snow for l.james [​IMG] )
    i would opt for 1.

    hole no.2: the bigdog never played d and dont expect that will change!
    2 choices here: 1. trade our no.2 off.option for a defender like stephon jackson(i know atl. would never do that) 2. bench him! let him play 20-25 mins but bench him!
    salmon isn't the best defender in the whole world but he is reliable, he is young and he is willing.

    with ai, mckie, salmons, thomas, dalembert they should be able do stop most teams on D and with robinson, green etc. we have guys that can produce off the bench

    then they need to create some chemistry WITH ai on floor. when he is off court they all play with passion, when he is on court they stand around and watch. he not seems to be part of the team. thats is in my eyes the only thing where r.ayers didn't do a good job. but chris ford maybe could be the right person, only ai has to listen. but thats another story...
     
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    What do the Sixers need to do? More like what dont they need to do.
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Get a new coach
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Oh yea and Get rid of Iverson
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">-Get rid of Iverson
    -Get a new coach
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Oh yea and Get rid of Iverson</div>

    Get rid of Iverson huh?

    Getting Rid of Iverson = Sixers after Charles Barkley left.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CANT STOP ME:</div><div class="quote_post">What do the Sixers need to do? More like what dont they need to do.
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Get a new coach
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Oh yea and Get rid of Iverson</div>


    no chance that this will happen, unless they would get a carter, bryant, kg kind of player in return(which is as likely as g.w. bush getting the nobel prize for peace :mrgreen: ), because ivy is filling seats, selling jerseys etc. and he is still a great player!
    the only thing he misses is team spirit!
     
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    get a SF that can play defense...

    i dont think that many MAJOR changes have to be made like most people think, i think they just need to be healthy
     
  16. King James X3

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting I3:</div><div class="quote_post">Get rid of Iverson huh?

    Getting Rid of Iverson = Sixers after Charles Barkley left.</div>

    ...or perhaps it turns out like the Grant Hill deal with Detroit and Orlando. An ALL-STAR player who goes down with an injury in Detroit and he's moved. He's aquired by another team and proves his career is on the decline and he's infact injury prone. Yet the deal works out for Detroit, who aquire defensive player of the year Ben Wallace and aren't stuck with a HUGE salary to pay. Fact is you can't shy away from trades because of past deals, how many years ago was that deal anyway?

    Iverson isn't a leader, perhaps he's the best player for the 76ers on the hardwood, but that doesn't give him those leadership qualities that he needs for that team to be successful. Also, His contract has them strapped with their payroll, and that becomes an even bigger issue now with his injuries. Top all that off with the simple fact that he's the only player with TRUE value on the trading block, and he's perhaps the only person you could move to get back to an NBA FINALS.

    If he does stay, they need to utilize the draft to the fullest potential and hope they come up big. They also need to try and move veterans like Coleman, Snow, McKie, and Robinson who have big contracts and aren't contributing like they used. The development of Samuel Dalembert is also key, he could prove to be a force in this league if he works and trains hard. However, the chances of all of those three things happening are very unlikely...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CANT STOP ME:</div><div class="quote_post">What do the Sixers need to do? More like what dont they need to do.
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Get a new coach
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Get rid of Iverson
    -Oh yea and Get rid of Iverson</div>


    I don't think they <u>need</u> to get rid of Iverson...he just needs to pull it together...and quick.
     
  18. Martin

    Martin Back from retirement

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    We need a new leader....Kobe Bryant! :P Im so desperate [​IMG]
     
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    What you miss? A coach who stays in the team for a whole season! :P
     
  20. B.e.

    B.e. The One Who Score Touchdowns and Spikes Mics

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Martin:</div><div class="quote_post">We need a new leader....Kobe Bryant! :P Im so desperate [​IMG]</div>
    Kobes game confuses me, one games he takes 1 shot in the half ,the next game he takes 20 shots in the first half.I dont know if he just doesnt feel like scoring or what.
     

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