okay honestly now guys, if the cavs during the offseason were in the position to pick up a tmac, would you go for it? i've heard a bunch of scenarios, the main one that works and is the most plausible seems to be a z + wags + 1st rounder for tmac + declerq or something along those lines now i know, this is lebron's team no question, and he should be The Man here, but man, adding tmac to our starting 5? mcinnis, mcgrady, james, boozer, battie/diop/whoever ? how can you not be salivating at the thought listen, i'm a huge z fan and i even supported him during the whole time people thought he should be traded earlier this season, and i personally believe when he plays well he's one of the top 5 centers in the league no question, and i also think wagner has great potential, but man. getting someone like tmac... we'd be a bit weaker at the center position obviously, but if we can find a serviceable pickup or one of our guys step up (boumtje? lol)... i don't know, just something that's been floating around a bit, but you can't say such a move wouldn't instantly propel us to the very top level
I believe KJ stated this (sorry KJ if I'm wrong) "we'd become a donut team" While this isn't 100% true, as Boozer would have something to say about that. What is McGrady's contract situation? It would be interesting, 2 big ball handlers who are not the point guard. Damn we'd be potent on offense. If Booz develops more of a post game, and improves his passing, whoa! There would be know stopping us offensively.
From Florida Today: Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Orlando Magic star guard Tracy McGrady has made up his mind. Barring franchise-altering acquisitions this summer, McGrady has no plans of signing a multi-year extension the team can offer starting in August. And McGrady also went as far as saying that he could envision leaving the Magic if they endure another sour season similar to the one they are currently going through. "I've got to wait and see what happens this summer and next season before I do anything," McGrady told Florida Today. "I don't necessarily want to be a free agent, but I've got to wait and see what changes are going to come around here. I just can't go through this again -- all this losing." McGrady, 24, originally signed a seven-year, $92.88 million contract in July of 2000, but he can opt out of the contract after next season. The Magic can offer him an extension this summer worth $54 million over three years that would keep him in Orlando through the 2010 season. But if McGrady waits to opt out after next season, he can get a seven-year deal worth approximately $122 million. However, he runs the risk of the league's Collective Bargaining Agreement changing and there could be a push on to shorten the length of maximum contracts. Whether the four-time all-star chooses to return to Orlando just might depend on the quality of this summer's acquisitions and the Magic's ability to do damage in the playoffs next season. McGrady entered Tuesday's game against the Portland Trail Blazers tied for the NBA lead in scoring (27.4 points per game), but he has complained repeatedly about the lack of help he has had the past four seasons. Magic general manager John Gabriel, who left Tuesday on a scouting mission through Europe, said Monday that he is confident Orlando can sufficiently upgrade its roster next season. In addition to possibly getting a healthy Grant Hill back, the Magic expect to have a high first-round draft pick and two second-round selections. Also, the Magic have a salary slot starting at approximately $5 million to offer a free agent. "The ball is out of my hands now," McGrady said. "It's in management's hands now." Will McGrady pull a Shaq and bolt?? Some seem to think so. Would I want him if he did??.......What for??.....So his contract could choke us for years. Could he and James co-exist??.... Doubtfull!!.....We've got our McGrady now. His name is LeBron. If James took the extra 5 shots per game that TMac jacks up, their lines would be virtually identical across the board. Do we need help??.......Absolutely!!......But lets concentrate on getting it where it fits within the TEAM concept, at a whole lot less expense. Just the way I see it...............Tank
Thats exactly the problem tank. Good points. There games are really similar, and need the ball often to be effective. He would be hard to say no to, but reality may say this isn't a smart move.
I really don't think the Cavs have anything to offer that Orlando would want for T Mac. A player like him would take a ton to acquire. I might be interested in doing it but I just don't think it's realistic. That would be a major addition of talent for the Cavs. The Cavs might have some trouble trying to trade for a big time player who still has a lot of good years left. They really don't have much left to offer and trading a key player such as Z would then open up another hole to fill on the roster. Seattle is a team that looks like it could be interested in making some moves. Players like Lewis or Allen would be great fits in Cleveland but the Sonics need help inside and the only way to acquire either of those two would be to trade Z or Boozer. I just don't see that happening. I don't want to see a trade for a player like Mashburn who's on the downside of his career and would only be here for a couple of years. I fear the Cavs will make a move like that.
I know a couple of posters have come out and said the Cavs should sit tight and try and sign Allen next summer. The problem is we possibly have Z, Booz and McInnis all after some money. One way around that is to come to terms with our players on the quiet, sign Allen, and then go over the cap to resign our players. The problem with that is, we dont make the strides next season as we would like. Personally I do not think we'll pry away Ray Allen. Acquiring a Ginobili, S-JAX, Barry or Turkoglu, with the draft pick could push us further along. Then we have the development of James and Boozer and some stability. All ingredients to be pushing for home court next season.
If I were the Cavaliers GM and got the oppurtunity to get TMac I would start making some phonecalls to see what other teams were willing to give away to get him. Maybe I could trade him for a good perimeter shooter/defender and a quality big man and loose some of our not so great contract along the way. But thats probably not what this hypothetical trade thread was supposed to be about.
I don't favor getting rid of Z. But speaking hypothetically, if we were going to package him and move him, a requisite for the deal would have to be getting a quality big man prospect in return. If we were to use Z's contract worth to aquire an outside threat, depending on what we add in there might be enough left to do a three way to include the aquisition of a replacement for the big guy.........! "Anyone else get the feeling that Mehmet Okur, who logged only nine minutes in Detroit's Game 1 romp over Milwaukee, is going to be highly available this summer? By now it should be fairly clear that, if the Pistons can only afford to sign one of their free-agent big men this summer, it's going to be Rasheed Wallace." He's young, shows good potential, could contribute immediately, and would probably be cheap enough to work a deal for.............! Just the way I see it................Tank
Mehmet does have an attitude problem, but that mainly stems down to the lack of playing time. If Wallace resigns in Detroit, those minutes could drop further with Darko likely to start seeing some court time. I'm not a big fan of Okur, but he is rather talented. I dont see him going cheaply either. Talented guys who have produced standing at 6'10, are usually a wanted comdity. Detroit may look at a sign and trade to find a shooter/slasher they need at small forward as Prince isn't the answer starting.
