<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">yeah i know.. but the soldiers go there for the money.. but taht guy from the NFL already have a lot of money so i don't know why he went there who knows? maybe he killed some innocent poeples and we're all here cheering him</div> Really who knows. But you don't have to kill to be killed over their. One of our guys from Hawaii died, matter as fact slaughtered with 3 other men. He wasn't even with the infiltry, dag I can't remember what it was but they weren't armed. Anyways like you said, he already had money so to me it just shows that he really cared about this country and was upset at the World Trade center castrophy and wanted to make sure that it doesn't happen again. That's how I really feel about Tillman going to war.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ming-dynasty:</div><div class="quote_post">That is so true. I can commend him for certain things but I don't think we should label him as a "hero" just yet. We have to know his FULL story first.</div> we're on the same page!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">yeah it was great.. but in the other hand its really stupid because he die in WAR!! why are we makin' war?? for nothin' caus at the end everybody lose! He died, but there,s 500 other poeple who died every day.. so .. we live in a stupid fashist world</div> When I said he gave up the American Dream, that means he gave up what everyone wants, a family, millions of dollars, and a great football carrer. He obviously had life set for him and his family for generations to come, but he knew that wouldn't mean anything because if the country is at risk, what would all the money in the world possibly do? Those other 500 people all made sacrafices, but not as big as the one Tillman did.
i don't know this guy but i understand his intentions.. he wanted to show that he loves his country and that he's loyal.. but i don't thing to go to war is the right way... i know what's where and let me tell, its the last thing you want
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ludacris06:</div><div class="quote_post">When I said he gave up the American Dream, that means he gave up what everyone wants, a family, millions of dollars, and a great football carrer. He obviously had life set for him and his family for generations to come, but he knew that wouldn't mean anything because if the country is at risk, what would all the money in the world possibly do? Those other 500 people all made sacrafices, but not as big as the one Tillman did.</div> Couldn't have said it better myself. I hope board directors post in this thread too, and everybody else that post here. This is a really good topic and like to read everyone's opinions about this situation. As far as Bush is concerned he would never admit that he wants to invade Iraq for oil. It's our opinion that whoever feels that way about it is fact. Anybody seen that Dave Chappelle skit on being black Bush and that part he said we trying to get that OIL ooooh, that was funny. But like many others feel, it's true.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">i don't know this guy but i understand his intentions.. he wanted to show that he loves his country and that he's loyal.. but i don't thing to go to war is the right way... i know what's where and let me tell, its the last thing you want</div> I disagree with you. When I was watching Sports Center, they did a special on him, and his father Pat Tillman Sr. said him and his brother always wanted to be the hero and save the day. His mother even said thier little brother didn't learn to walk untill he was 15 months old because they used to carry him all the time. Pat and his brother had to know what the situation was, and what they were putting at stake when they joined.
That is very sacrificing of him, too bad for the wrong causes. Good heart, but the actions were bad. Unfortunately under Bush, many ppl sacrifice themselves blindly for his ignorance
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting intrepid1983:</div><div class="quote_post">That is very sacrificing of him, too bad for the wrong causes. Good heart, but the actions were bad. Unfortunately under Bush, many ppl sacrifice themselves blindly for his ignorance</div> What makes it worse about Bush sending the US to war is the fact that he dodged the Vietnam war himself and now he's trying to be patriotic. Awhile ago a Sergeant I think it was, put him at the top of his hit list because he was and others were suppose to be sent home awhile ago. Even some of the US soldiers are getting sick of him.
Salute to a hero There isn't many times that americans can actually be proud of the actions of their sports stars. Too many times the media is filled with stories of their selfishness and demand for too much money. Yesterday,Pat Tillman,former professional football player for the Arizona Cardinals was killed in Afghanistan. He walked away from a 3.6 million dollar contract to serve his country on the war on terror and gave the ultimate sacrifice. Much love to Pat Tillman. A true American hero. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">TEMPE, Ariz. (AP) -- Pat Tillman walked away from millions in the NFL to fight for his country in Afghanistan. He paid with his life. The former Arizona Cardinals safety was killed Thursday night in a firefight while on combat patrol. A sergeant with the elite Army Rangers, he was 27. ``He is a hero,'' Cardinals vice president Michael Bidwill said. ``He was a brave man. There are very few people who have the courage to do what he did, the courage to walk away from a professional sports career and make the ultimate sacrifice.''</div> Link
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">That is very sacrificing of him, too bad for the wrong causes. Good heart, but the actions were bad.</div> 100% right!
We have a thread talking about this, but not a salute. He is a hero and I salute him. I can't see anyone else sacrificing a great life for the safety of this country.
durring the 2nd world war, many professional baseball players enlisted, some didnt return. they werent making the equivalent of 3.6 million dollars either though. a true sacrifice by this brave man, and i commend him. i wish more of our role models could display even a fraction of the selflessness of this man.
Hey Peja King, just wondering why you put that picture up? It looks like an ad straight from the US army. Man, it's only been a day and they're milking this story already. In a way it's kind of shameless.
It's funny how people like to say stuff like "he did it for the wrong cause" when the guy turned down a rich life for his country. I know we all have our own views on things, but no matter what your view on the war I don't see how people can say stuff like that. He fought for what he believed was right, and that was to protect our country. That is a very selfless thing to do, turn that kind of money down and leave your wife to fight in a war.. sounds like an amazing guy to me. Again we all have different views on this war situation, but we should all be agreeing what he did was amazing.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ming-dynasty:</div><div class="quote_post">Hey Peja King, just wondering why you put that picture up? It looks like an ad straight from the US army. Man, it's only been a day and they're milking this story already. In a way it's kind of shameless.</div> Milking this story? How so? In this day and age it's rare to see a story anything close to that. Dude deserves everyones respect. Despite what is said taking the fight to the terrorists was the only way to go. Pat Tillman turned his back on fame and fortune to go to war in an effort to preserve freedom and save lives from future cowardly terrorists actions. Like it or not the US Military has saved countless lives around the world by taking the fight to where the terrorists live and Pat Tillman was a part of that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">It's funny how people like to say stuff like "he did it for the wrong cause" when the guy turned down a rich life for his country. I know we all have our own views on things, but no matter what your view on the war I don't see how people can say stuff like that. He fought for what he believed was right, and that was to protect our country. That is a very selfless thing to do, turn that kind of money down and leave your wife to fight in a war.. sounds like an amazing guy to me. Again we all have different views on this war situation, but we should all be agreeing what he did was amazing.</div> Yes I agree with you, it was much sacrifice on his part, he did what he thought was right, BUT its unfortunate he did it for the wrong leader (ie Bush). Its like say you kill someone who was going to kill someone else, and you got killed by that person in the end. But it was later found that the person you were trying to kill was actually the good person and the person that he was trying to kill was gonna do something that would kill many more ppl. But you naturally thought he was tryin to kill the person out of bad intentions, its like that. You were sacrificing and you did a brave right thing, but unfortunately, b/c you didnt know it turned out to be the wrong thing. Thats the analogy like this guy.
Looking at this thread, I can see a lot of people have different opinions from myself about what our country is doing right now...(like the post above me) I'm not really going to get into it because this is not a political forum...However, I will say that over 50,000 American soldiers lost their lives trying to perserve my family's way of living....and for that, we will always be appreciative....We have much respect for what's going on out there..My family and I send our best wishes out to the Tillman family as well as everyone else fighting overseas...
I totally agree with you Phreeze...how can you guys that say he died for the wrong cause justify that? He obviously was very passionate about serving for his country and he followed his heart by leaving a properous and wealthy life to fight against terrorism in Afghanistan. What is more honorable than dying doing something you are passionate about? Whether you agree with the war or not is not the issue, it is that Pat Tillman is one of a kind among sports stars and set a moral example for the fans and that is to follow your heart not the paper train.
Yes I commend him for it. He is definitely someone our Lord would be able to count on. Definitely one of the bravest and courageous man of our times
