The Charlotte Bobcats get to hold an expansion draft, does anyone know the rules for how many can get protected, and who do you think will be protected on the grizz? I heard J-will might not get protected.
The Grizzlies protect 8 players. With that being said, here is my list of their top 8 players - 1) Pau Gasol 2) James Posey 3) Jason Williams 4) Bonzi Wells 5) Lorenzen Wright 6) Shane Battier 7) Earl Watson 8) Troy Bell ---------------- 9) Bo Outlaw 10) Jake Tsakalidas 11) Dahntay Jones 12) Mike Miller 13) Ryan Humphrey 14) Theron Smith (FA?) Although Williams is one of the Grizzlies' most valuable players, I could see them ditching either him, Wells, or Wright (maybe all 3) in an attempt to clear cap room for a big name free agent.... *Kobe*. There could also be some problems within the club that we don't know about with Williams. Those are the only two things I can think of. Who told you that he might be unprotected? Because Williams, Wells, and Wright would be too good for the Bobcats to pass up. If West thinks he can get Kobe, he'll do that. I wonder why I never thought of that. And all this time I was thinking he'd have to trade for cap...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting :</div><div class="quote_post"> Who told you that he might be unprotected? Because Williams, Wells, and Wright would be too good for the Bobcats to pass up. If West thinks he can get Kobe, he'll do that. I wonder why I never thought of that. And all this time I was thinking he'd have to trade for cap...</div> Geez good question, it was back a little ways somewhere around the time when J-will ditched that practice. (possibly ESPN Insider) They were talking how his contract does not make him suitable for a trade, and how Jerry West does not like big contracts he did not acquire himself, and how the easiest way to dump the contract was the expansion draft. Could this be some sort of pattern? Jason leads a team to 50 plus wins(55 in Sac and 50 in Memphis 3rd season in both) and he gets the boot both times. I understand Jason's defense is not the greatest, and yes he shoots a bad shot here and there, but Jerry PLEEAASE Keep J-will in Memphis he has done this franchise well on the most part, and he will continue to do better with Coach Brown. Its really sad, that people who are not big basketball fans had to see J-will get lit up by Parker like that. Parker is a good player but come on everyone knows he can't shoot the 3 like that, and if he continues to shoot that well in combo with his drive he would have to be one of the better point guards ever. (am I exaggerating? Maybe but think about that a guy with that much quickness and that high of percentage of 3) I don't think Parker can continue like that and everyone gets it going like that every once in awhile, I could have just as easily seen J-will go off like that. Any thoughts on all this?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jwill2:</div><div class="quote_post">Geez good question, it was back a little ways somewhere around the time when J-will ditched that practice. (possibly ESPN Insider) They were talking how his contract does not make him suitable for a trade, and how Jerry West does not like big contracts he did not acquire himself, and how the easiest way to dump the contract was the expansion draft. Could this be some sort of pattern? Jason leads a team to 50 plus wins(55 in Sac and 50 in Memphis 3rd season in both) and he gets the boot both times. I understand Jason's defense is not the greatest, and yes he shoots a bad shot here and there, but Jerry PLEEAASE Keep J-will in Memphis he has done this franchise well on the most part, and he will continue to do better with Coach Brown. Its really sad, that people who are not big basketball fans had to see J-will get lit up by Parker like that. Parker is a good player but come on everyone knows he can't shoot the 3 like that, and if he continues to shoot that well in combo with his drive he would have to be one of the better point guards ever. (am I exaggerating? Maybe but think about that a guy with that much quickness and that high of percentage of 3) I don't think Parker can continue like that and everyone gets it going like that every once in awhile, I could have just as easily seen J-will go off like that. Any thoughts on all this?</div> I think it has nothing to do with Williams as a player and person but everything to do with cap room. Williams, Wells, and Wright are three of the team's best players. However, they all have hefty contracts that West could do without in order to get Bryant. If the Grizzlies don't wind up with Bryant though, it would be a mistake. Williams means too much to the franchise to sacrafice him for another "better than average" Free Agent.
Just because they're unprotected, doesn't mean they won't be picked. I wouldn't protect Williams. Honestly, I don't think that the Bobcats would take him either. The 'Cats cap is "only" something like $31.5M. Jason's $7+ million would take up a good chunk of that, and he's signed through 2008-09, I believe. They won't want a deal that long term, either. He's a really undesirable pick for the Bobcats. Leave him unprotected. Shit, even if the unthinkable happens, and he gets picked, they still have Watson, who we all know can play. Troy Bell is a baller, too. I'd leave Eboy (money), Outlaw (money), Humphrey (scrub), Smith (scrub), Tsakalidis (scrub), Mike Miller (who makes $8+ until 2010, and can't play a lick of D. The Grizzlies also have a glut of swingmen, making him expendable.) and Wright or Bonzi (both 29/30 next season, both make huge money) up for grabs, protecting: Stro' (I believe you are forced to protect him as a free agent anyway, but he's still young. Still athletic. Though I wouldn't be upset if they got rid of him, somehow.) Watson (Elite defender, young. Good passer. Heir to the PG throne in Memphis.) Posey (Young. Elite defender. "Mr. Utility," and the best player on the team.) Troy Bell (Solid backup for Watson) Gasol (Can't leave 20-10 unprotected. Especially at age 24.) Dahntay Jones (I believe in this guy. He can defend with the best of them, is really athletic, and still very young.) Battier (You have to protect Shane, you just have to.) Bonzi/Wright. (It doesn't really matter. -- You might actually be forced to protect Tsakalidis, as he's a rFA) Then, depending on who gets taken, if anyone, and how much cash that affords you, make a run at any of Dampier, Mihm, Okur, Foyle, or Keon Clarke (if a big gets taken) Q, (he's a beast) Kenyon Martin (if the Nets let him go -- unlikely), Ginobili, Giricek, (if a swingman is taken -- I still say Gordan > M. Miller) Clarke is probably up for grabs. He'd fit nicely, now that I think about it. I've always liked Quentin Richardson, and Kenyon Martin, too. Not likely that we get those two, however. Maybe we'll luck into Shaq and Karl Malone, if things fall apart in L.A. Wouldn't that be nice?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ezra:</div><div class="quote_post">Stro' (I believe you are forced to protect him as a free agent anyway, but he's still young. Still athletic. Though I wouldn't be upset if they got rid of him, somehow.) </div> Do you have a source for this? I never thought you had to consider Free Agents. If you do, then why consider Stro? To me, he's as good as gone anyway.
I think that the Grizzlies will protect: 1)Pau Gasol 2)James Posey 3)Jason Williams 4)Shane Battier 5)Bonzi Wells 6)Lorenzen Wright 7)Earl Watson 8) Either Mike Miller(shooting) or Bo Outlaw(Defense)
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Stro' (I believe you are forced to protect him as a free agent anyway, but he's still young. Still athletic. Though I wouldn't be upset if they got rid of him, somehow.)</div> I think you have to protect restricted free agents but not regular free agents. I could be wrong but that's what I have heard. Stro is restricted right?
Yeah. Stromile Swift is a restricted free agent. Big Jake is restricted, too. The rules (or a basic version) aren't that hard to look up, you know. It says there you don't have to protect FA's.
Mike Miller, Stromile Swift, and Bonzi Wells are all free agents so they are technically "protected" because expansion drafts will not allow Charlotte to aquire free agents unless they agree to sign. So right off the bat there's three players that don't need to be protected. Also, Dickerson won't be protected because of his injuries and his contract. Than, Bo Outlow won't be protected because of his age and his contract isn't likely to be picked up. Alot of teams have some decisions to make with this expansion draft right around the corner, however Memphis is not one of them...
I wouldn't want J-Will to go anywhere, he's become such a mature and great player. Plus Hubie Brown brings out the best in him, the only guy who can control him to take the less fancy and more team like and less selfish plays. Wright, Gasol, Posey, Wright, Wells and Battier are virtually my only other keepers. They're really great players and people. It'd be for the benfefit for and of the fans as well. I personally would love to keep Outlaw, he's like our Madsen, or our Malik Rose.
I think they will protect the following players: Pau Gasol James Posey Jason Williams Bonzi Wells Shane Battier Bo Outlaw Mike Miller Dahntay Jones Non Protected players: Earl Watson Jake Tsakalidas Troy Bell Ryan Humphrey Theron Smith Lorenzen Wright
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James X3:</div><div class="quote_post">Mike Miller, Stromile Swift, and Bonzi Wells are all free agents so they are technically "protected" because expansion drafts will not allow Charlotte to aquire free agents unless they agree to sign. So right off the bat there's three players that don't need to be protected. Also, Dickerson won't be protected because of his injuries and his contract. Than, Bo Outlow won't be protected because of his age and his contract isn't likely to be picked up. Alot of teams have some decisions to make with this expansion draft right around the corner, however Memphis is not one of them...</div> You're obviously supremely ign'ant, or supremely retarded. As stated earlier in this very thread, Mike Miller just signed a contract running through 2010. I'm also pretty sure Bonzi has a couple years left on his contract. (Though I know for a fact it's higher than zero) Stromile Swift and Jake Tsakalidis are the Grizzlies only two free agents. And they're both restricted, meaning that they can be picked by the Bobcats. I tell you what, though: Dickerson won't be protected, but not for the reasons you stated. He won't be protected because he retired at the beginning of the season, and isn't even on the Grizzlies roster anymore. So you're right about that one, while still being completely wrong.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Streetball2k3:</div><div class="quote_post">I think they will protect the following players: Pau Gasol James Posey Jason Williams Bonzi Wells Shane Battier Bo Outlaw Mike Miller Dahntay Jones Non Protected players: Earl Watson Jake Tsakalidas Troy Bell Ryan Humphrey Theron Smith Lorenzen Wright</div> Dang, I hate it when people don't read the posts above theirs. Streetball, it'd be pretty dumb to leave guys like Earl Watson and Troy Bell out there. With their small contracts they'd be snatched up by the Bobcats in a heartbeat. Watson is a proven starting-caliber point guard, and Bell is a lottery pick rookie with a nothing contract and loads of athleticism as well as potential. If you leave Bo Outlaw and Mike Miller out there, the Cats aren't going to take them. Outlaw is too old and makes too much, while Miller just flat out sucks for the money he makes. Anyway, sorry. That's been said over and over. I hate to sound like a broken record. If only you would have read the posts above you.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ezra:</div><div class="quote_post">You're obviously supremely ign'ant, or supremely retarded. As stated earlier in this very thread, Mike Miller just signed a contract running through 2010. I'm also pretty sure Bonzi has a couple years left on his contract. (Though I know for a fact it's higher than zero)</div> Wow, that was an educated response. So I'm "Supremely ign'ant", what ever that means, because I wasn't aware that Miller Miller signed an extension. Well sorry for not being aware of Miller's recent career decisions, he isn't someone I spend much time following. I grab my information concerning contracts from Hoopshype.com which states BOTH Miller and Bonzi are free agents next season, but I guess by actually looking my information up that makes me "Supremely retarded".
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James X3:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow, that was an educated response. So I'm "Supremely ign'ant", what ever that means, because I wasn't aware that Miller Miller signed an extension. Well sorry for not being aware of Miller's recent career decisions, he isn't someone I spend much time following. I grab my information concerning contracts from Hoopshype.com which states BOTH Miller and Bonzi are free agents next season, but I guess by actually looking my information up that makes me "Supremely retarded".</div> Well KJx3, if you want to get into semantics over everyone's choice of words, then he is right. You are ignorant. That's not nessecarily an insult though. Ignorance is defined as lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified, and you had a lack of knowledge pertaining to Miller and Wells' contracts.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">Dang, I hate it when people don't read the posts above theirs. Streetball, it'd be pretty dumb to leave guys like Earl Watson and Troy Bell out there. With their small contracts they'd be snatched up by the Bobcats in a heartbeat. Watson is a proven starting-caliber point guard, and Bell is a lottery pick rookie with a nothing contract and loads of athleticism as well as potential. If you leave Bo Outlaw and Mike Miller out there, the Cats aren't going to take them. Outlaw is too old and makes too much, while Miller just flat out sucks for the money he makes. Anyway, sorry. That's been said over and over. I hate to sound like a broken record. If only you would have read the posts above you. </div> Wave, Im sorry to break this to you but half of your arguement here is invalid, You have made good points about both people and I now understand where you are coming from, but in your first post in this thread you elected to put Troy Bell unprotected aswell. So, enough with this and change your own post before you bash mine, thanks. BTW: You changed my mind with your post. :thumbsup:
Well, Streetball, that was an honest typo. I copied and pasted my message from a school message board where I had listed Troy Bell twice and forgot Mike Miller. When I went back and edited on this site, I accidentally put Miller in Bell's place on the "protect list". It's all edited now to express my personal viewpoint.
No Problem, I understand, It's happened to everyone, and I now understand your post and where you are coming from, thus, you have changed my mind.
