TO OWNS Ray Ray

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  1. Philly_Freak93

    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    Just looking @ the topic heading, I can't help but wonder where Abraham Lincoln or is this more of a Tupac vs Biggie thing?
     
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    you're an ass if you think your opinion is the only one that could prevent someone from being an ass....
     
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    You know, as an Eagle fan, I never really cared for TO as a person in the past but he hit the nail on the head with this! It's refreshing to hear someone say what a lot of others think but choose not to...TO, I loved it when Philly signed you, now I think your the funniest SOB in the league!



    On a similar note, am I the only one that doesn't think Ray Lewis is the greatest? Sure he's top 3 at his position, and fine, if you say he's number 1, but after watching my first full Baltimore game last week, I don't see how this guy "controls" the game like a Reggie White or Lawrence Taylor. Call me dumb I guess but he sure looks like a hype machine to me. All talk, rarely walk.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bednarik1963)</div><div class='quotemain'>Call me dumb I guess but he sure looks like a hype machine to me.</div>

    you are dumb
     
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    Hype machine? lol.

    Name 1 player on defense that carrys his team on his shoulder like ray lewis and makes them feed of his will. Ray lewis is one of the best middle lb's ever. There is no hype in being one of the greatest lb's of alltime.

    Terrell owens is terrell owens and there is a saying what goes around comes around. Whether its ray lewis or someone from another team. Guys take playing defense personal, and when guys here the bull shit or see the non sense coming from another player such as owens. Its motivation to cause pain. Its just a matter of time before it happens. T.o says if you dont wanna see me doing the things i do, then stop me from scoring. When a player is cocky like that, you better beleive the players from other teams take that to heart and use that as motivation. Whether its motivation to hurt the man or not.

    Owens is a great wr but he isnt bigger then the game. He is playing in a league with the best atheletes ( including himself) . He's playing in the nfl. Talk can only go so far before action is taken. So dont feel bad if someone hurts the man just remember, he had it coming whether it was from ray or someone else.

    The actions with the owens against garcia to the ravens ozzie newsome to ray lewis has been personal and stupid.
     
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    Look Ray Lewis isnt a saint and To hasnt had any of field problems..............................YOUR POINT?????
     
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    Who said owens had problems off the field?

    i think the point went right over your head.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bucs40etrain)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who said owens had problems off the field?

    i think the point went right over your head.</div>


    The article said that actually TO said that he is made to be the bad guy and all this other junk
     
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    Bucs40etrain,

    Tell me almighty one why your calling him "the greatest ever"? This is the crap I'm referring to. People like you are so quick to give a player like Lewis all the accolades in the world, for what? He doesn't dominate the game. In no way is he in the same class as Singletary, Nitchke, Butkus, Bednarik, ect. Oh I'm sure he'll get into Canton due to the fact that the media can't get enough of him just like you. Show me some numbers that back up your statements. I want to see these all world numbers that make him the greatest ever. Go watch some more Under Armor commercials to see your boy "protecting his house".
     
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    I can understand why someone would think ray lewis is not a great linebacker. No wait I cant. Did you watch super bowl? Have you ever watched football? He is truly dominant. I would put him with the greats like butkus, singletary, etc. I would not put bednarik in that class, he wasnt dominant.
     
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    Gee, Super Bowl MVP eh? Right along Dexter Jackson and Larry Brown...let's look at that performance for a second though...Ray Lewis's line: 3 tackles, 2 assists, 4 passes defensed. WOW. In what arguably could be considered the most boring game in modern Super Bowl history, he sure was the man. Yep, what a stud.


    "I would not put bednarik in that class, he wasnt dominant"

    Last player to play both sides of the ball. Best player on the 1960 NFL Championship team. Named to 9 pro-bowls. Made the game saving tackle in Vince Lombardi's only loss in a championship game......I see your point, he wasn't very good.
     
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    I am pretty sure ray lewis had an interception in that game and created another. I am also sure that he was the best player that night on a defense that set a scoring record for the NFL. Playing both ways does not mean you are among the dominant linebackers of all times. If fact playing offense in no way means you were a great linebacker. Making one tackle in the 60 championsip game doesnt make you dominant.
     
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    http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/03050008

    These are Bednariks defensive stats. Your questioning Ray Lewis's Super Bowl Stats? I'll give a little of your medicine: Do you even watch football? Did you even see the Super Bowl? Look it up if, go to nfl.com and hit "history of the Super Bowl" and check his stats. I didn't make it up.
     
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    Wow...reading that response makes me think that Owens is a selfish ass, nothing more nothing less. What a selfish thing to do...I can't beleive that he tried to defend himself by pointing fingers at another player who was accused of a double murder.

    Who cares what happened to Ray Lewis, that's not what the complaints are about! Its about TO being an ass on the field, which he can be. He may be a very nice person off the field, but on the field he lacks all respect.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Wow...reading that response makes me think that Owens is a selfish ass, nothing more nothing less. What a selfish thing to do...I can't beleive that he tried to defend himself by pointing fingers at another player who was accused of a double murder.

    Who cares what happened to Ray Lewis, that's not what the complaints are about! Its about TO being an ass on the field, which he can be. He may be a very nice person off the field, but on the field he lacks all respect.</div>

    Nice job bringing everyone back to the point!!!!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bucs40etrain)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who said owens had problems off the field?

    i think the point went right over your head.</div>


    The article said that actually TO said that he is made to be the bad guy and all this other junk</div>

    Yes. Boo hoo! Poor TO. Time to play the victim. What ever happened to you reap what you sow??? or even Poetic justice/karma?

    The only people I pity is everyone who has to be subjected to all TO's drama & alleged trauma. He just has it so rough. Yo, Terrell! Shut the hell up!!
     
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    Yeah, let's all rag on TO because he picked on poor old Ray Lewis. Nevermind the fact the Ray Lewis acts goes crazy after 3 yard run like a special teamer on a tackle in the preseason. I have no problem when two self-absorbed individuals going at it. In fact, it's hilarious.
     
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    Bottomline:Ray Lewis is the best player in the NFL....every team that plays the Ravens spends their whole week game planning to block him and they still cant....
     

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