Bibby for McGrady

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  1. pidandsid

    pidandsid JBB JustBBall Member

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    Bibby for Mcgrady? I heard through the grapevine that the Kings could trade Bibby, play Christie or Jackson at the point gaurd position. Making room for T-Mac. The Contracts work out about right.
    The Magic gets an excellent PG which is hard to come by at the moment. T should be able to create shots for Peja.
     
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    I won't look into whther the contracts work out or not, because as this idea stands, I don't feel I have to yet.

    Bibby for T-Mac straight up, would be a steal of mythic proportions, from a talent standpoint. Mike Bibby may be a nice pg commodity, but he doesn't have the abilities to go straight up for T-Mac.

    Bibby could be involved in a trade, but there's a few things working against it:

    1. Kings play a team game. As of yet, T-Mac doesn't seem to know what that means. I can't see why they kill team chemistry to make this move, even for the coveted T-Mac

    2. There's not enough balls to go around with C-Webb, Peja and T-Mac on the squad.

    3. Bibby is young and uninjured, whereas T-Mac has some very questionable injuries, like back issues.

    This idea would need some serious tweaking and even then I'm not sure it's in the best interests of Sacto. Sorry.
     
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    Gotta agree with hagrid. Bibby has a huge role for the Kings...remember how the Kings became strong contenders when they traded JWill for Bibby? Bibby is an integral part of the Kings high octane offense, not to mention the only player that consistently brings it in crunch time.

    TNT mentioned last night how all of the current playoff teams have their awesome PGs. Cassel, Payton, Parker, Bibby, Chauncy, Wade...I just don't see why Kings would give up Bibby in that situation...especially for a player like TMac that simply doesn't have a team-oriented game mentality.

    Bibby for TMac sounds like a trade just for the sake of trading.
     
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    is the grapewine sober? bibby for tmac is trading a shooter (one dimensional) for a superstar. i like bibby but i don't know if he would be as successful in a different offense, remember in vancouver he was nothing special.
     
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    How can you guys say that this trade would suck for the Kings? No way the Magic would do that unless Weisbrod wants to get his head chopped off, by the Magic fans. Tmac isn't selfish. You guys make it sound like he never passes and is a ball hog. He somehow gets 5-6 apg every year with sorry players around him. He should be getting 1 or 2 more a game if players like Declerq could make a layup/dunk, Hunter would stay in bounds, and shooters could make a shot. He would get about 7 or 8 assists on the Kings. That would be suicide for the Magic. I hope it never gets down to that.

    Kings would win it all next year guaranteed if that trade went down.
     
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    bibby for macrady... man i need proof ... first of all bibby is completly satisfied with the kings.. and secondly macrady is worth much more then bibby does... a minimum of bibby and christie is slightly believable but bibby alone is <font color="red">********</font>.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How can you guys say that this trade would suck for the Kings? </div>

    I don't recall putting it in those terms. You said that, not us.

    Pointing out the possible ramifications of this trade are part of disecting it. T-Mac does have decent teammates (like Drew Gooden), yet they continue to lose miserably.

    Putting him in an offensive scheme that dictates that everyone on the floor touches the ball, will not work for him, nor would it be a good move for the Kings to acquire him, without cleaning house and changing their methodologies.

    Talent wise, again, this trade it highly squewed in favor of the Kings, but chemistry and other facets make it an incredibly bad idea right now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Talent wise, again, this trade it highly squewed in favor of the Kings, but chemistry and other facets make it an incredibly bad idea right now.</div>

    Bingo. You hit it on right on the spot. Tracy McGrady would ruin Sacramento chemistry completely. And Sacramento chemistry is why they are the team they are today. I honestly don't why Mike Bibby name would end up being in the same sentence as "trade". Mike Bibby is without a doubt an All-Star. Although he has yet to make the team, he will make it in the near future. Possibly next year… For the sake of both party’s I wouldn’t do it. They would be getting two complete different players. It’s like trading a PG for C. It just wouldn’t work.
     
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    has the concept of providing a source for these rumours gone completly by the wayside??

    what is this "grapevine"? the kids at school? too many of these wild and crazy trade ideas without any kind of substance are being posted.
     
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    A DJ told me ironically who knows a lot about the game. Remember T-Mac at the raptors. He used to pass the ball there, I think it could work, the guide needs to get motivated again though.
     
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    TMac could work at the kings i feel it would be a great trade for kings and if they get TmAc could they be unstopable
     
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    orlando won't trade their franchise player for a pg. if they did, there's not enough balls to go around. he'll do fine with the chemistry in kings because he's been in the playoffs with Vince and Christie together.
     
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    could bibby be the next Jason Kidd
     
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    I don't see Orlando doing this for a couple reasons. Firstly, Bibby isn't anywhere near what McGrady is. On a talent standpoint, McGrady beats him by a mile and than some. Secondly, the Magic already have a couple point guards on this team in Bogans and Lue and they really don't need to add another. I think the only way they add another is via the draft and even than, in all likelyhood, they'll be leaving with either Dwight Howard or Emeka Okafor. So, yea, this would never happen. It'd make the Magic WORSE, if that's at all possible, and it would completely dismantle the Kings team chemsitry cause it'd be taking away their point guard and it'd be adding yet another scorer. And, currently, they aren't the team that should worry about the scorer problem as they already have a wealth of them, they might want to think of defense. So, no, this will not happen. And, in all likelyhood, contracts wouldn't match up anyways. So, even if the Kings or Magic wanted it, which, in all likelyhood, neither of them do, I don't think it'd be working.
     
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    Bibby won't have anyone to pass to...
     
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    Who started this thread?? C'mon Bibby for McGrady? There's no way in hell that'll happen even if McGrady only has one arm.
     
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    Watch what you say people with only one arm might read this thread.
     
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    You won't get any proof on this one because it doesn't exist. TMac is easily one of the top 5 players in the NBA. Bibby isn't. The Magic may have made some dumb moves the last couple years, but even they're not this stupid. Stop making sh*t up.
     
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    wow, I'm hurt and so is my grape vine. u cats sure have wrote a lot on the matter though so check yourselves before you reck yourselves!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 41#Dirk#41:</div><div class="quote_post">could bibby be the next Jason Kidd</div>

    Nope, never gonna happen. Maybe a different New Jersey prospect, the next Kenny Anderson...

    As far as the Bibby trade, get real people. TMac is only gonna go in a blockbuster. A Sacto trade minus one of their allstars(Peja, CWebb and Miller) hardly qualifies.
     

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