Well, We've already got a thread for who we covet, let's make one for who we actually might hav a shot at getting. Sure, we don't know how many picks we'll have or use at draft time, for certain, but let's see who we want for the spots we do have. The first guy I'm intrigued by, albeit a project, is this guy: Ha Seung-Jin Here's a link: http://www.draftcity.com/haseungjin.htm Barring injuries, this guys could be monumental. He's fresh out of HS, loves to work hard on his game and is already a House, even by NBA standards. I wouldn't chance it with the #15, but if he's there when we next pick, I'd take him.
Sorry if this thread is just for Jin, but I'd take Kris Humphries with the #24 or #25 pick. I may be a bit Big Ten biased, but that's not clouding my judgement that much. The thing that amazes me is Humphries' stats: 22 ppg, 10 rpg, 45% FG. Some people look at those stats and say they were simply a direct result of Minnesota being a weak team last year. That's foolish. Minnesota may have had an off year, but that doesn't mean they're a mid-major by any means. They still played the elite competition. Also, we all know Humphries is naturally talented. He's been scouted since he was in Junior High. He was a High School All-American and almost ended up at Duke. I'm surprised that most Mock Drafts have him this low. He's the real deal, in my opinion; he's strong, athletic, and knows how to rebound as well as score.
I think Ha-Seung Jin should really get a long look in this years draft. I can even see him being drafted in the first round based on his height alone. Anyone that is his height should be given a long look. This kid is not a lottery pick but I can see him being picked with the 25th-30th if enough scouts fall in love with his "potential"
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry if this thread is just for Jin,</div> Heck no. Anyone you want to talk about for the C's. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyone that is his height should be given a long look.</div> I read in one of the bio's on him, that they aren't sure he's done growing yet. Young, over 300lb and 7'3" and possibly still growing? That's the aforementioned house. I have to agree with you that those intangibles alone are going to garner him a fair amount of attention.
I searched around nbadraft.net for Jin-related material, and I found some interesting quotes - "He looked lethargic and out of game shape in Greece last summer." NBADraft.Net's Top 50 Prospects That was his one real chance to prove himself against international competition. I hope he is in good shape when he comes to the NBA, because in the KBL (Korean Basketball League) the competition doesn't call for a 7-3 center to be in that great of shape. He may be a real big project for a few years after he is drafted. My only other negative thought when reading through these profiles, interviews, and scouting reports was that he could be injury prone. As is the case with a lot of players over 7-0, it would be very easy for Jin to have foot, back, or other injuries that could end his career as soon as it starts. NBADraft.Net seemed to be particularly concerned with Jin though. There wasn't much mention of injuries in the profiles of other seven-footers. "When I was a first-year student of an elementary school, my IQ was 146." NBADraft.Net Interview (2003) Amazing, eh? There may be a language barrier, but basketball is an international game. He'll have the advantage over the majority of the NBA players if he can utilize that intelligence on the basketball court. Also, they say that Jin has an outside shot. Sure, shooting over 6-0 competition in Korea is not like shooting over the likes of Ming and B.Wallace, but it's always good to have range.
Yep, I read about the thoughts that injury can play a part and that he's a little slow moving right now. I guess it will depend on whether he can kick it up a notch. I recall they said that he didn't do overly bad against Yao Ming when he played that team in a national competition. He's a project, to be sure. But he's very young, which helps soothe some of the injury worries in my mind. However, as you've pointed out, a basketball mind can find ways to get around physical limitations through good positioning, timing, etc. 146 in elementary school (that's genius level BTW) is a good sign that hopefully his mind has done it's best to keep pace with his body growth. I hope....
Unless Dannyboy knows something we don't, I doubt Banks is going anywhere. Giving up on him already would be a big mistake. nbadraft.tk is the only site having us taking a pg (Telfair) that I've seen yet. All the other have us going after size first.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post">nbadraft.tk is the only site having us taking a pg (Telfair) that I've seen yet. All the other have us going after size first.</div> I hadn't heard of that site until you mentioned it, but I checked it out a minute ago and was astonished by their harebrained prognostications. It strikes me of just yet another NBADraft.Net rip-off. What does everyone think will happen with the second round pick? Assuming that Jin does not do better than expected in the pre-draft camps, there's a great chance that he'll be around for the Cetlics' early second-rounder. If Jin isn't available, then I'd go for Matt Frejie (if he is available). I've seen Frejie play live three times over the last two years, and his combination of shooting ability and height amazes me. He doesn't put up the greatest stats or even shoot the greatest percentages; however, this kid is very efficient. He's like a poor-man's Dirk Nowitzki; very well rounded. I just hope they don't take David Harrison. When I saw him in High School, I felt like he'd be one of the top players in the nation by the time he left Colorado. It appears as if he hasn't made any improvement though. His numbers are good, but he's still very weak and hesitant. He's too nice; he needs to be a lot more agressive. Anyway, the Celtics are not going to look for a player who will play a large roll on the team with this pick, but you never know who will surprise you.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What does everyone think will happen with the second round pick? Assuming that Jin does not do better than expected in the pre-draft camps, there's a great chance that he'll be around for the Cetlics' early second-rounder.</div> I don't think that's going to happen. Think about it. Young guy, who's very smart and likes to work on his game? He's going to come into pre-draft camps ready to impress, is my bet. I think his draft stock will only benefit from pre-draft camps. Scouts are good, but getting a guy where the coach and assistants can have the oppotunity to see him and evaluate him themselves, and he's only going to benefit. If he hit's the camp and impresses: he's going to jump up to near the back of the lottery at worst. <font size="1"><font color="DarkRed">(Let's face it, most of whats left after the lottery-end 1st rd can argueably go in any order)</font></font> If he doesn't impress: he's going to stay where he is, because there is going to be someone to take the chance, given his age, that he can continue to mature and be something special in 2-4 years, like say, Jermaine O'neal did. Oh yeah: To answer your other question, I don't know, but I think Dannyboy is going to trade at least one of the picks, more likely 2, IMO.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post">here's an update on some prospectives: http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/ce...p_on_the_draft/</div> This part scares me: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> 6-7 high schooler Dorell Wright, rumored to have received a commitment from Ainge and due in this week.</div> Why give a commitment this early? Last year I think Ainge did the same thing with Banks. Why would you want to let everyone know your intentions of drafting someone
People will disagree with me, but I think all these stories about "Draft Promises" by Dannyboy are completely fictitious BS. First and foremost, Danny hasn't seen everyone he's going to see yet. Why paint himself into a corner? Not at all his style. I believe names are just getting thrown out there by players agents to increase thier stock value.
Speaking of "guarantees", rumor has it now that Swift got a promise from Dannyboy and canceled his workout with Denver because of it. I don't like this.
NEver mind, I should read the mornings paper before posting: http://www.kget.com/news/local/story.aspx?...FF-3FFE3619F96C Swift fixed his eligibility issues and is withdrawing from the draft to attend USC. There's one less thing for C's fan to worry about.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post">Speaking of "guarantees", rumor has it now that Swift got a promise from Dannyboy and canceled his workout with Denver because of it. I don't like this.</div> Here is FoxSports Celtic Draft Mock Luke Jackson Robert Swift Peja Samardziski Swift is said not to be working out with other teams. Jackson is moving up draft boards and could be there with pick 15. Looks like Dorrel Wright would be our pick at the end of round one if there. Those who have worked out look to be second round prospects. I saw in this mock Jameer waaaaaaaaaaaaay down. If there is a way to get Nelson,we must do it. He is a legit PG IMO and reminds me a lot of Tim Hardaway.
I don't think the Celtics should try to bring in any point guards. With Banks showing lots of promise and the ability to become an All-Star in the future, bringing in a highly-touted rookie point will not give a vote of confidence to either players.
Opinions will vary, but I'm not all that much in favor of getting a pg, unless it's in the second round, but if we do go after one in the first, I don't want Nelson. If we go after a pg, I want Roko Ukic.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post">Opinions will vary, but I'm not all that much in favor of getting a pg, unless it's in the second round, but if we do go after one in the first, I don't want Nelson. If we go after a pg, I want Roko Ukic.</div> Other than a small forward, what don't the Celtics need? The hiring of Doc Rivers may have been the only bright spot thus far in Danny Ainge's regime. I don't understand why you trade for Ricky Davis and then not give him the opportunity to be your legit second option? Who else on that team is capable of even averaging 15 points a game? Boston fans need to pray that Araujo is available at number 15 b/c otherwise they are going to get a player that is not going to able to fulfill their needs (especially if Blount leaves) immediately. Personally if Araujo is off of the boards at 15 I think that Boston fans should want Jameer Nelson. Point guards in the NBA normally have an instant impact. They are not like centers who normally take some time to develop. W/ the exception of Steve Nash and Baron Davis virtually all upper tier point guards had significant contributions in their rookie season. Marcus Banks does not understand what it takes to be a point guard in the league. He is a tremendous athlete but his basketball IQ is very suspect. If your point guard skills are questioned in college there is a good chance they will be questioned in the NBA as well. Banks has yet to answer any of them to the Celtics satisfaction and sometimes for a team w/ as many holes as the Celtics it is best to take the best player available and deal w/ the fallout. The only point guard that I see being better than Nelson in the league "next year" in this draft is Ben Gordon (and that is from a talent perspective, I think Nelson has better intagibles). The C's already have invested in young talent. They do not have time to invest in a high schooler or european (they already are waiting on the developments of high schooler Perkins and european Welsh). Araujo is a load who can get up and down the floor well. Nelson is a true leader who will make up for his shortcomings (height, really) with his determination. T.J. Ford was drafted eighth last season in a point guard heavy draft. There is no doubt in my mind that Nelson will be a far better pro than T.J. Ford and Celtic fans should be ecstatic to have the college player of the year on their roster next season (if the big Brazilian is off of the boards).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Iron Shiek:</div><div class="quote_post">Other than a small forward, what don't the Celtics need? The hiring of Doc Rivers may have been the only bright spot thus far in Danny Ainge's regime. I don't understand why you trade for Ricky Davis and then not give him the opportunity to be your legit second option? Who else on that team is capable of even averaging 15 points a game? Boston fans need to pray that Araujo is available at number 15 b/c otherwise they are going to get a player that is not going to able to fulfill their needs (especially if Blount leaves) immediately. Personally if Araujo is off of the boards at 15 I think that Boston fans should want Jameer Nelson. Point guards in the NBA normally have an instant impact. They are not like centers who normally take some time to develop. W/ the exception of Steve Nash and Baron Davis virtually all upper tier point guards had significant contributions in their rookie season. Marcus Banks does not understand what it takes to be a point guard in the league. He is a tremendous athlete but his basketball IQ is very suspect. If your point guard skills are questioned in college there is a good chance they will be questioned in the NBA as well. Banks has yet to answer any of them to the Celtics satisfaction and sometimes for a team w/ as many holes as the Celtics it is best to take the best player available and deal w/ the fallout. The only point guard that I see being better than Nelson in the league "next year" in this draft is Ben Gordon (and that is from a talent perspective, I think Nelson has better intagibles). The C's already have invested in young talent. They do not have time to invest in a high schooler or european (they already are waiting on the developments of high schooler Perkins and european Welsh). Araujo is a load who can get up and down the floor well. Nelson is a true leader who will make up for his shortcomings (height, really) with his determination. T.J. Ford was drafted eighth last season in a point guard heavy draft. There is no doubt in my mind that Nelson will be a far better pro than T.J. Ford and Celtic fans should be ecstatic to have the college player of the year on their roster next season (if the big Brazilian is off of the boards).</div> I am right there with you Sheik. I am a believer that the two best players in this draft are Deng and Nelson. If we have a shot at Nelson,we would be foolish not to take it. I see him as another Tim Hardaway when with Golden State. He works hard and is a leader. I think teams needing PGs would be nutz passing him up. If we got him along with Swift,Wright,and someeone like Roberts in round two,I would be happy.
