http://www.nbadraft.tk this is a sweet site. They got mock drafts for the next 3 years! A lot of player profiles. I think this site could be nbadraft.net. At least they are free!
I like the personal files. It's a pretty tight site It shows Utah drafting 3 big men, I don't agree with it.
I think most draft sites like nbadraft.net, nbadraft.tk, and draftcity are all pretty much reactionary sites, meaning that very little of their information is first hand. The only guy I know that is actually traveling around the globe watching and interviewing players is Chad Ford over at espn. Once Ford ranks players, any major change he makes in his draft board is quickly replicated by the other sites. Case in point: Jameer Nelson. Nelson was terrific in February and March, consequently most mock draft sites had him as a top 5 pick. But then Ford wrote an article saying that most GMs felt Nelson was a mid to late round talent. A week or two later, Nelson mysteriously dropped from that high lottery position to a late lottery/mid-first round position. Also, the other sites may say they have international correspondents, but until I see articles about the writer's experience at the Euroleague final four or interviewing draft prospects, I refuse to believe the guys that run those sites have any more information than I do. Of those three, the only site that actually conducts interviews with draft prospects is draftcity. And even then, they can only get late first round/early second round prospects. I'm not trying to slam these other sites, I'm just trying to point out that they should be taken for what they're worth. They're a great jumping off point, but the mock drafts on these sites are no more insightful than ones that guys around here could put together if so inclined. In fact I can (and am about to) make the argument that this site is more informative than the other mock draft sites. There are knowledgeable basketball fans from all over the world who post here. I can get first hand information on draft prospects that I couldn't get on other sites. Take Chiriaev for example, posters here have been going to his games all season long and saying how bad he looked. Whereas most of these other mock draft sites were repeating the same second hand information they found on the internet while never actually seeing him play. While posters here were saying that he's definitely not ready for the NBA, these other sites had him as a mid-lottery pick. Judging by his decision to not put his name in the draft and his agent's declaration that he'd probably spend the next several years playing in Europe or Russia, you can see that posters here CLEARLY had a better gauge of Chiriaev's draft prospects than these other mock draft sites. In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing this justbball create a mock draft team that would be responsible for putting out the site's "official mock draft." I bet we could come up with a mock that is at least as accurate as any of the aforementioned sites. If we did put out such a mock, our hook could be that we concentrate on fitting a player to a team's needs. Right now the other mock draft sites are just matching a player's rank to a team's record, regardless of how he fits with the team.
Well crafted points wtwalker77. I'm actually surprised that this site doesn't currently have thier own mocks up (or maybe it's coming after the lottery is set and I'm an idiot for speaking prematurely ) With the writing team in place and all, you'd think someone or several someones will probably spearhead this cause?
^I don't have the time right now to spearhead any causes, but I'm more than willing to contribute to any mock draft. If a mock draft team is created, it should be done using the strength's of this site, mainly the knowledge and devotion of its posters. We could give an extremely detailed and accurate description of each team's needs by polling the posters of that team's board. The problem with mock drafts created by these other sites and individual writers like Sam Smith of the Chicago Tribune is that they don't have the resources to know everything about every team...we do.
nbadraft.tk I don't think that nbadraft.tk is going to go by team needs until the order is set. I think nbadraft.net does that as well
<u>On doing our own Mock:</u> That's alotta threads........It's not too much for me to take on, but I'd need help from the admins to sticky and push posters to contributing to them<font color="DarkRed">**</font>. At the very least, we'd need the following, IMO: **A poll that all posters could potentially provide opinions on. (<font color="DarkRed">sent via PM maybe? Can admins do mass emails to everyone here?) </font> Posters would have to return at least thier lottery picks (1-13/14?). With not everyone going to respond (or we recieve incomplete entries) so, Hopefully we could get enough people to respond, so that we could have a decent sample size <font color="DarkRed">(so we know it really represents what the posters at the site think)</font> and we can then place players by percentage votes <font color="DarkRed">(we'd have to figure out a tie system. Maybe choose them based on relation to a reliable "official draft site" position for them to go?)</font> Anything I'm missing? Anyone want to help?
Marcus Moore I like how nbadraft.tk completely rips apart some players. Such as Marcus Moore or Jerry Sokoloski (who the hell is that), these guys get bashed so bad it's hilarious
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post"><u>On doing our own Mock:</u> That's alotta threads........It's not too much for me to take on, but I'd need help from the admins to sticky and push posters to contributing to them<font color="DarkRed">**</font>. At the very least, we'd need the following, IMO: **A poll that all posters could potentially provide opinions on. (<font color="DarkRed">sent via PM maybe? Can admins do mass emails to everyone here?) </font> Posters would have to return at least thier lottery picks (1-13/14?). With not everyone going to respond (or we recieve incomplete entries) so, Hopefully we could get enough people to respond, so that we could have a decent sample size <font color="DarkRed">(so we know it really represents what the posters at the site think)</font> and we can then place players by percentage votes <font color="DarkRed">(we'd have to figure out a tie system. Maybe choose them based on relation to a reliable "official draft site" position for them to go?)</font> Anything I'm missing? Anyone want to help? </div> Perhaps we should pm each other if we're getting too far off topic, but I'd like to make a final post on the matter just because everyone on the board can see it and we could get a feel for who the other draftniks are. But, I'd suggest getting a few guys together to come up with team needs and possible draft picks, then sticky each initial team breakdown on that team's board and let the posters of that board determine if the initial breakdown is on the mark or needs to be tweaked. You could have a poll for who the posters thought their team would pick, but more importantly the thread would be devoted to posters making arguments for or against certain players being picked based on team needs. I'd be surprised if every board had a few guys that were really knowledgeable about the draft and could provide such a breakdown, which is why I'd suggest having a mock draft team come up with the first rough breakdown. I would also be surprised if enough people cared about the draft to make their own initial arguments for players. Having an independent draft team do the initial breakdowns would mean that most of the research is done for the posters already and they just have to say if they agree or disagree with it and why. The opinions of an independent draft team on possible draft picks would also be more likely to be unbiased. By that I mean Warrior/Stanford fans wouldn't predict Childress to the Warriors just because they're biased in favor of the hometown guy even though he isn't a good fit. The same would go for Philly/St. Joe's fans predicting Nelson to the Sixers. I would also guess that most posters in the US know much more about the NCAA players than they would about the international players, and would therefore have them rated more highly. A small team of draftniks would be less likely to have the same bias. I?d be happy to contribute to the initial breakdowns. Perhaps we could have four guys, each responsible for a division, come up with the initial breakdowns. Then once they compare notes within that group, post the initial breakdowns on each team forum. Though it would probably be better to wait on making the sticky posts on the team forums until after the draft lottery.
The best site I've come across for NBA prospects and coverage on the net is http://www.proexposure.com/ Some of the services are now subscription, but the writers are very thorough on their player breakdowns. There's one other site I use, but I need to find the link in my bookmarks, I'll add it to this post once I find it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing this justbball create a mock draft team that would be responsible for putting out the site's "official mock draft." I bet we could come up with a mock that is at least as accurate as any of the aforementioned sites. If we did put out such a mock, our hook could be that we concentrate on fitting a player to a team's needs. Right now the other mock draft sites are just matching a player's rank to a team's record, regardless of how he fits with the team.</div> Something is in the works already my friend.....I'll keep you posted.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Something is in the works already my friend.....I'll keep you posted.</div> Good, that means I don't have to do it!
I don't like anything about nbadraft.tk's 2006 mock. It looks like they just threw together random prospects in no particular order. Check out where Shannon Brown is projected in the second round. They say at best he will be a a poor man's Dwyane Wade. I don't know if any of you have ever seen Brown, but he's one hell of a player. My best case scenario for him would be an Allen Iverson clone who frequents the All-Star game; the kid is a stud. He hasn't recieved much publicity because he's been in a very crowded guard lineup at Michigan St., so that's probably why they rank him so low. However, I haven't seen anyone not rank him in the lottery. Also, 2006 would be coming out early for Brown. He probably wouldn't leave early unless he was promised a top ten pick. Hell, he has the potential to be #1 in 2006.
This site isn't that good man, its decent though. None of the major draft sites I know are really great. These guys aren't GMs, and the people who run them are no more knowledgeable then us. They have Francisco Garcia with a Reggie Miller comparison? Why? Because they are both skinny? Wave, wouldn't you agree with this : Sean Banks - Optimistic Outlook : Carmelo Anthony. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Total ripoff from nbadraft.net. It's amazing what people will do for popularity these day.</div> Why? Its a draft site, most draft sites will all look alike man...a mock draft with player profiles...thats about it.
