Let me be the first to say the NETS win a THRILLER EPIC trible OVERTIME game against the Piston *on the road*. This was a nail biter from start to finish. WOW what a game... it was over a FOUR HOUR LONG GAME!! and I'm talking about a basketball game! What a great win for New Jersey...They just need to take care of business at home on sunday! ps This was only the 4th TRIPLE Overtime PLAYOFF game in the HISTORY of NBA. This is pretty special, i gotta say. man..
oh man, what a game it was. when bills hit that shot to send it in overtime, i had a flashback to reggie miller's shot. when kenyon went out with 2minutes to play, i honets thought det would take advantage and go down to shee on the block and i though they would win, i still dont know how they lost. once bills hit that shot and we didnt have kmart and atrain/collins fouled out along with debo and they were home, i thought they had the advantage. but as sheed and ben fouled out, the size wasn't a factor anymore. no team had a low post presence and thats when i think our experience kicked in. rj was big in the overtimes. i thought in the 2nd OT that he was going to get called for a charge and that would have fouled him out of the game, but luckily it was called a block. he showed the rising star and future all-star that he will be next yr or the following yrs. of course, the mvp of the game was veal! yes it was. he was huge in this game. he was 4-4 from 3pt land and made key buckets in overtime to give us the lead or tie the lead, then in the 3rd ot he gave us the win, lu was big too. i think we just did the impossible, a road win at the palace in triple overtime. it seemed that detroit had the momentum and you would figure that when the crowd was being them that they would start making shots left and right instead of a road team making those shots. MAKE A DAM FREE THROW! thats what caused all that drama, thank god we won it or i would be flipping out. the game should have never gone into overtime if kidd and kerry made their free throws. we were making TF in the first three q's,but then we kept going 1 for 2. im still in shock of the outcome. i really thought we were not going to win it in the 1st ot b/c they still had big men in the game and we didn't. this was extremely huge for us b/c now we come home on sunday to close it out. and im pretty sure we are 7 for 7 in close-out opportunities. hopefully that streak won't be broken. we've owned at home these playoffs so as long as we play our run game and defense, we should be closing this out on sunday. great win, great game...another classic
since magic asked for stats of the game, i figured i would post them in this topic b/c it was made fresh for the outcome of the game. <font color="blue">New Jersey Nets</font> KIDD 16pts 8ast 6reb 57min KITTLES 20pts 11reb 55min MARTIN 22pts 9reb 35min (fouled out 2:29 mark in the 4th) JEFFERSON 31pts 11reb 53min COLLINS 4pts 3reb 30min (fouled out 3:09 mark in the 4th) SCALABRINE 17pts 4-4(TPF) 6-7(FG) 23min HARRIS 12pts 4-8(FG) 21min ROGERS 29min (fouled out 1:36 mark in 2nd OT) WILLIAMS 12min (fouled out 4:45 mark in 1st OT) <font color="red">Detroit Pistons</font> HAMILTON 11pts 11ast 33min (fouled out 1:40 mark in the 4th) BILLUPS 31pts 8ast 10reb 55min PRINCE 18pts 8ast 55min (fouled out 0:01 mark in 3rd OT) R.WALLACE 18pts 10reb 48min (fouled out 0:29 mark in 2nd OT) B.WALLACE 16pts 11reb 48min (fouled out 2:21 mark in the 1st OT) WILLIAMSON 14pts 3reb 26min complete box score of Game 5
This win was a combination of championship will & luck. No way should we have won this game with how many mistakes the Nets made last night. The Nets missed free Throw all 4th quarter not just in the last minute. RJ missed about 3 or 4 in the 4th. But J.Kidd missing free throws was a shocker, I really felt he was going to end it with his pair of free throws. But he bricked them. And then the defense by Kittles to let Billups get that type of look at the shot to tie the game. Granted your 1st option is to make sure you dont foul billups as he trying to launch that shot from half court. But to let Billups basically run it up to half court & be able to get that much arc on the ball with putting a little pressure him, I dont know about that. If their was one person on the Pistons roster who could throw up that type of miracle & make it, the only person you would think of would be Billups. I remember back in the day Tim Hardaway said he use to practice trying to make that king of shot by kissing it off the glass from half court. And he made alot of those in his career. So I dont know if Billups practice that shot or if it was pure luck but either way the look he got was to good. We had the game one in both of the 1st 2OT's but shot clock turnovers & the fact that we let them walk down the lane with no bigs back there to guard the basket. Richard Jefferson came up big in those 3OT's. Harris made a couple big shots in the OT's. But Scalibrine saved the Nets on both ends of the court. He made the shots. But he did a good job on defense in the OT's as well. The Pistons' were trying to exploit him for his lack of size, they went to Rasheed alot before he fouled out in the 2nd OT. And he held his ground. Then they went to Corliss Williamson alot after that but Scali did a good job of defending him on the post.
Wow. I freaking lost my voice and woke up the entire neighborhood coz of my shouting and cursing. There were a lot of factors that NJ won this one. 1. Experience. Eventhough NJ made some mental lapses, they were experienced enough to pull it off in the end. 2. Detroit's lack of go to guy. The score was tied with 5:06 remaining. At one point, they had 10 attempts at the last 4 minutes. They made none. Except for that Billups heave. Billups was clutch during that time, but he missed a lot of jumpers during that stretch. 3. Veal! 4 out 4 three point shots. SOme of which came that decided the game. Plus his save that gave the Nets another possession. 4. Monster game by Jefferson. The block that he made was nasty. If Billups )who thought he was wide open) made that shot, it would've been a win by Detroit. Tay couldn't guard him in the post. 5. Jason Kidd's clutch basket. Eventhough he missed a lot of FT's, that basket helped them have the win. 6. KMart's strong 1st quarter. He kept them alive. He scored 12 points on a wide array of shots. He had 2 jumpers, a fade away J which was tough. A dunk off an offensive board. A tip in off an offensive board and a couple of FT's which he all made during the first. Too bad he was in foul trouble all night long but the FT's that he was making was very clutch. Let's face it. WIth the way NJ played, Detroit should've won the game. But they don't have anyone to go to. Plus the fact that the Nets was poised enough to win it. Nets should close it out at home.
Props to Scalabrene he was a huge factor throughout and he made some clutch threes.This game could have ended earlier if the Nets would have hit their freethrows but it was still a huge win regardless.
But come to think of it, it's probably a good thing that they won during OT. It showed a lot of things: 1. They own Detroit during close games. 2. They can beat Detroit (and their big men) even with their number 1 post defender out and basically playing with foul trouble all game long. 3. They have crunch time bench players in Lu and Veal (which gave them confidence). 4. Jefferson's ability to take over games became obvious (18 points in the 3 OTs) I don't know about you guys, but I knew the the Nets was going to win basically because they still have Kidd. After those missed FT's, I'm sure he wouldn't lose the game for the Nets.
That was a great game, 3 OT playoff games don't come along often. 8 guys were fouled out during the game, 4 from each team. Brian Scalabrine played extremely well for the Nets, he's one of the most unlikely heroes but he delivered bigtime. Detroit missed Ben Wallace down the stretch, and Rip's scoring was needed at time. The playoffs games have been great recently, but this one might just be the best.
what hen and trust mentioned are all excellent points and makes it that much more of an amazement that we won. the fact that we were on the road, kmart was out with 2min to go, they made a chuck-up shot to push ot, they had their big men in and they were home with the crowd begin them made this win that more amazing to me. i though we were going to win in ot, then bills hit that shot and i was purely stunned. i was dead silent for the longest time the whole game. with that shot, them being home, us w/o kmart and them having sheed and ben still in the game (yes rip was fouled out, but they still had options) and our big guys in foul trouble i thought they would take advantage of us. then debo/train/twin fouled out and they still didnt attack the rim every play. we didnt have any shot blockers or anything. maybe it was a lack of leadership or guys being tired, im not sure. then once their bigs fouled out, i knew we were going to win b/c i looked at our lineup. we still had kidd/rj/kerry is from our starting five and in regulation they really didn't do anything up to their capabilities, which gave me a smile b/c u knew they would come through. we had kidds leadership and rj showed everyone how great he is becoming. everytime he puts on a performance like that i keep thanking houston for basically giving him (and twin and brandon) for nothing (eddie, well we all know what happened to him). i couldnt stop screaming and shouting the whole night. i was extremely hyper and couldnt calm down to fall asleep. bottom line, how badly we played-detroit seemed to not be able to take advantage(except bills' shot) and gave us back the game. hopefully we can end this sunday where we are unbeaten in the playoffs and our sizzlin crowd will pump us up even more. i expect kmart to have an all-star type performance unless once again the whistles come out early and often. did anyone else have the feeling of that indy/jersey game with reggie's shot that eventhough he made the shot and it shocked us, that we were still going to win. i had that feeling after bills hit that shot that it was a la reggie, but wasnt too sure of the outcome b/c of us being away and kmart being out. once 2nd OT came, you knew we were going to win. it had that feeling. iknow everyone is still talking about the lakers/spurs ending, but this has to be the best GAME this post season. that lakers/spurs was the bestin ending, but this has to be the best game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting InNETSweTrust:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know about you guys, but I knew the the Nets was going to win basically because they still have Kidd. After those missed FT's, I'm sure he wouldn't lose the game for the Nets.</div> No It was clear NJ were going to win the game when Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace and Rip Hamiton all fouled out. That was the only difference. Oh and I think It was the 2nd OT which Pistons up 2, Jefferson should of been called for a charge but the refs didn't call it he then went and tied the game. Should of been over at that stage as well. Detroit ran out of players and most importantly scorers. I guess Detroit proved your theory of NJ "own" Detroit in close games on sunday with a close win on your homecourt which has forced a game 7.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">No It was clear NJ were going to win the game when Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace and Rip Hamiton all fouled out</div>. That was the only difference. Oh and I think It was the 2nd OT which Pistons up 2, Jefferson should of been called for a charge but the refs didn't call it he then went and tied the game. Should of been over at that stage as well. Detroit ran out of players and most importantly scorers. I guess Detroit proved your theory of NJ "own" Detroit in close games on sunday with a close win on your homecourt which has forced a game 7.</div> hmm.... not really Rasheed was in their for the 1st OT & did nothing that tells me he would have had an impact on the out come. He took a bad 3pt attempt & missed a mid-range turnaround jumper other than that he was pretty quiet. The difference in those OT's was the fact that you had nobody on your roster, who could stay in front of Jefferson. And to be honest if Jefferson wasnt tried in Sunday's game in the 4th quarter after playing 54minutes, the Pistons would probably be home with the series over. Jefferson clearly settled for alot of jumpers & didnt have his normal explosiveness going to the basket. The Pistons had one fresh offensive weapon, Hamilton(who only played about 32 minutes on friday) & they were able to call on him in big spots such as after timeouts & the big shot in the 4th quarter that put the Pistons up 4 .
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">hmm.... not really Rasheed was in their for the 1st OT & did nothing that tells me he would have had an impact on the out come. He took a bad 3pt attempt & missed a mid-range turnaround jumper other than that he was pretty quiet. The difference in those OT's was the fact that you had nobody on your roster, who could stay in front of Jefferson. And to be honest if Jefferson wasnt tried in Sunday's game in the 4th quarter after playing 54minutes, the Pistons would probably be home with the series over. Jefferson clearly settled for alot of jumpers & didnt have his normal explosiveness going to the basket. The Pistons had one fresh offensive weapon, Hamilton(who only played about 32 minutes on friday) & they were able to call on him in big spots such as after timeouts & the big shot in the 4th quarter that put the Pistons up 4 .</div> Wether Rasheed was doing anything or not is besides the point (although he was playing quite well during that time), 3 KEY players all out in the overtime periods is obivously where the game was lost. They struggle to score anyway but without those guys? I knew it was over. Jefferson played very well but that was not the reason the Pistons lost. It's was lack of firepower on the court that undid them. It was the first close game of the series which each team went back and forth at each other and I wish everyone was on the court that mattered. Thats including K-mart...Then we would of seen an even better game. It was a game that Pistons threw away and really this series should be over and D would be waiting for Indy but thats not the case. Jefferson was tired? Is that the excuse why NJ didn't win game 6? the Pistons were a complete joke in the 2nd half of game 6. It seemed as If they couldn't hit a FG to save their lives. The game should not of even been close after that first half performance. Rasheed was a factor in this game which is why the Pistons won. I said before this series even started as Sheed goes as go the Pistons...He may not be the best player on the team but when he is giving the team something the Pistons are a better basketball team but when he's inconsistant and not adding anything on either end of the court NJ are simply better but thats the only time they are. Game 7- the end of a very tough series, NJ has the experience to pull it out but I don't see the Pistons dropping two straight at home. Been a great series either way though.
[quote name='AllNet']<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Wether Rasheed was doing anything or not is besides the point (although he was playing quite well during that time), 3 KEY players all out in the overtime periods is obivously where the game was lost. They struggle to score anyway but without those guys? I knew it was over</div>. Yeah but you still had plenty of favorable matchups like Brain Scalibrine trying to guard Corliss Williamson in the post. And you still had offensive weapons like Prince & Billups on the floor thru the OTs. They just didnt produce enuff to win. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Jefferson played very well but that was not the reason the Pistons lost. It's was lack of firepower on the court that undid them. It was the first close game of the series which each team went back and forth at each other and I wish everyone was on the court that mattered. Thats including K-mart...Then we would of seen an even better game. It was a game that Pistons threw away and really this series should be over and D would be waiting for Indy but thats not the case.</div> RJ is the reason the Nets won that game he either scored, or got to the free throw line, or created shot for someone else just about everytime he had the ball in those overtimes. And if the Nets could have hit free throws there wouldnt have been a 1st OT nor a 2nd, so the Pistons should consider themselves lucky. The Nets left the door open for them to stay in that game. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Jefferson was tired? Is that the excuse why NJ didn't win game 6? the Pistons were a complete joke in the 2nd half of game 6. It seemed as If they couldn't hit a FG to save their lives. The game should not of even been close after that first half performance.</div> Its not an excuse, its the truth, RJ was clearly less explosive due to fatigue, down the stretch of the game the Pistons have nobody who can stay with him going to the basket but he kept settling for jumpers on sunday. The Nets didnt really make alot of fg% in either half of that game on sunday. They just kept getting to the line, they scored 20 of their 75pts from the free throw line. And another point that proves RJ was tried in the 4th was that fact that RJ was 8-8 from the line thru the 1st 3quarters. Yet he only attempted 2 free throws in the 4th, which shows he stop going toward the basket. When RJ is fresh going to the basket against the Pistons' he either scores or gets to the free throw line just about everytime. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Rasheed was a factor in this game which is why the Pistons won. I said before this series even started as Sheed goes as go the Pistons...He may not be the best player on the team but when he is giving the team something the Pistons are a better basketball team but when he's inconsistant and not adding anything on either end of the court NJ are simply better but thats the only time they are.</div> Yeah thats true because if Rasheed isnt producing then the Pistons are pretty much the same Pistons' they were last year & the Nets are clearly better then that team. The Nets were 2 for 3 against the Pistons this year before they got Rasheed. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Game 7- the end of a very tough series, NJ has the experience to pull it out but I don't see the Pistons dropping two straight at home. Been a great series either way though.</div> Yeah it was a great series. I think the Nets can still pull this one out. Hopefully our bigmen can produce a little bit more on the boards. And RJ needs to keep going toward the basket.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">. Yeah but you still had plenty of favorable matchups like Brain Scalibrine trying to guard Corliss Williamson in the post. And you still had offensive weapons like Prince & Billups on the floor thru the OTs. They just didnt produce enuff to win. </div> Yes guys like Billups and Prince where out there but by that time Billups was clearly tied and didn't have much energy left. He played a very stupid game to be honest, he cost Detroit the game in that 4th quarter with stupid shot after stupid shot. He tied the game but his shot selection was very poor. Prince actually had a decent game but again not really an offensive weapon yet. His game is mainly defense and rebounding the ball he isn't known for scoring a bunch of points, he can do it but he just isn't consistant enough. He has alot to work on. If anyone should of been in the game It was Okur backing down Scalibrine, Williamson is the type of player people hate because of his useless turnovers and lack of abilty to score consistantly. His job is to score but when his team needs It most, he fails. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">RJ is the reason the Nets won that game he either scored, or got to the free throw line, or created shot for someone else just about everytime he had the ball in those overtimes. And if the Nets could have hit free throws their wouldnt have been a 1st OT nor a 2nd, so the Pistons should consider themselves lucky. The Nets let the door open for them to stay in that game. </div> You could say the same about Billups, If it wasn't for his stupid shots and plays then the Pistons would of won the game in that 4th quarter when the game should of been over. Up 4 with not limited time left, he must of took at least 5 terrible shots which gave NJ the chance to comeback and win fortunely for Billups NJ choked at the line. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Its not an excuse, its the truth, RJ was clearly less explosive due to fatigue, down the stretch of the game the Pistons have nobody who can stay with him going to the basket but he kept settling for jumpers on sunday. The Nets didnt really make alot of fg% in either half of that game on sunday. They just kept getting to the line, they scored 20 of their 75pts from the free throw line. And another point that proves RJ was tried in the 4th was that fact that RJ was 8-8 from the line thru the 1st 3quarters. Yet he only attempted 2 free throws in the 4th, which shows he stop going toward the basket. When RJ is fresh going to the basket against the Pistons' he either scores or gets to the free throw line just about everytime. </div> One could easily make the case the Pistons lost the lead purely down to lack of legs in their jump shots. Jefferson is not the only guy who played alot of minutes in game 5 and therefore were not as quick on sunday. Billups, Prince, Sheed and Ben all played huge minutes two nights before which one could say easily effected their play in the 2nd half of that game. So It reallt works both ways.Just maybe It was the fact the Pistons were the better team in game 6? The main reason Pistons won was they dominated the boards, when that happens NJ struggle but there were alot of bad turnovers by the Pistons in that 4th quarter which led to easy fastbreak buckets for the Nets If the Pistons don't do a better job of cutting that down in the 4th quarter of game 7 then the Nets will win the game and the series, It's pretty simple.
Eventhough Sheed, Big Ben and Rip fouled out, you very well know that you take pride in your "deep" bench. Esp. your frontline. But tell me, how the hell can you let Veal beat you? But still, the primary reason that the Nets won was because of Kidd and RJ who can take over games anytime. You really can't say that Billups was tired. Heck, everybody was tired. He had an ugly game to tell yah. He had plenty of chances to break free during the 4th quarter. As I've said, they've had 10 attempts in the field during the last 4 minutes but they just couldn't score. Detroit won game 6. I give you that. I wasn't able to watch the game so I really can't comment too much on that. But Henacy made a good point. Rip was more well rested than Kidd. Kidd couldn't keep up. I saw the highlights. It was a great shot by Rip. Allnet, how about a sig bet for game 7, eh?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Eventhough Sheed, Big Ben and Rip fouled out, you very well know that you take pride in your "deep" bench. Esp. your frontline. But tell me, how the hell can you let Veal beat you? But still, the primary reason that the Nets won was because of Kidd and RJ who can take over games anytime. </div> Deep bench It is, but when you competing with a team that still has Kidd, Kittles and Jefferson all in the game in the closing stages of a game what are the chances they will pull it out? not very likely. Corliss Williamson is the only real scorer off that bench, which is not a great option to have. The rest guys like Mike James and Lindy Hunter can shoot the ball well but their defence is what they are good at. Okur and Campbell should of been in the game, but Larry Brown being Larry Brown aka the Darvin Ham lover/Okur hater he refused to change the line-up. Is veal the nick-name of Brian Scalabrine? He had one lucky game and It could turn out to cost Detroit the series although I expect the Pistons to win game 7, I feel NJ has their chance in game 6 but blew it. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You really can't say that Billups was tired. Heck, everybody was tired. He had an ugly game to tell yah. He had plenty of chances to break free during the 4th quarter. As I've said, they've had 10 attempts in the field during the last 4 minutes but they just couldn't score</div> Billups was tired but he was stinking it up all night, It's his fault the Pistons lost the lead in the first place. May sound harsh but he completely forgot how to run the offense. Watching the Pistons play can be so frustrating with their poor shot selection and un willingness to make consistant scores. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Detroit won game 6. I give you that. I wasn't able to watch the game so I really can't comment too much on that. But Henacy made a good point. Rip was more well rested than Kidd. Kidd couldn't keep up. I saw the highlights. It was a great shot by Rip. </div> Rip was more rested but to be honest he has played the same way all playoffs and all series in this one. Easily the most consistant Piston player. Him and Ben Wallace are the only guys to me that have shown real heart. Kidd couldn't keep up yes but no one can with Rip. He moves so well off the ball It is so tough to guard him. It's just the way he plays. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Allnet, how about a sig bet for game 7, eh?</div> I'm down with that, as long as the loser of the bet sports a banner that has to do with the NBA I'm fine with it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Deep bench It is, but when you competing with a team that still has Kidd, Kittles and Jefferson all in the game in the closing stages of a game what are the chances they will pull it out? not very likely. Corliss Williamson is the only real scorer off that bench, which is not a great option to have. The rest guys like Mike James and Lindy Hunter can shoot the ball well but their defence is what they are good at. Okur and Campbell should of been in the game, but Larry Brown being Larry Brown aka the Darvin Ham lover/Okur hater he refused to change the line-up. Is veal the nick-name of Brian Scalabrine? He had one lucky game and It could turn out to cost Detroit the series although I expect the Pistons to win game 7, I feel NJ has their chance in game 6 but blew it.</div> That's the thing. Brown failed to recognize how tired our guys were. In the first place, our guys did a great job of forcing the stars of the team to foul out. I mean, you have to give credit to the Nets players for making them foul out, right? Veal actually has a good stroke. I've seen him consistently knock those threes. He may not be the most athletic, but Detroit simply failed to recognize that he can do some damage both on the offensive and defensive end. He may not be a great defensive player but you should see him hustle. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Billups was tired but he was stinking it up all night, It's his fault the Pistons lost the lead in the first place. May sound harsh but he completely forgot how to run the offense. Watching the Pistons play can be so frustrating with their poor shot selection and un willingness to make consistant scores.</div> I'm glad we both agree on that one. Missing 20 shots as a PG is simply unacceptable. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Rip was more rested but to be honest he has played the same way all playoffs and all series in this one. Easily the most consistant Piston player. Him and Ben Wallace are the only guys to me that have shown real heart. Kidd couldn't keep up yes but no one can with Rip. He moves so well off the ball It is so tough to guard him. It's just the way he plays.</div> That's the thing. This young kid sure can move. And if an older player like Kidd is guarding him, you can't expect him to cover him up at all times. With his ailing knee and the 44+ minutes he's averaging each game. All right. This is my first time to do a sig bet. I see you recently won one against CV. So you give the terms like how long, etc.
Basically It will go like this Sig bet will last for one week- It's starts the day the loser of the bet is given the sig The winner of the bet can choose whatever Is on it (has to be NBA related of course) And the sig will normally say at the bottom "I lost this bet to e.t.c) Thats about it, we can get one of the graphic makers to design what the winner wants.
