If I had to win in the next five years, I would without a doubt choose this guy. He finally showed his potential this season, but he has been often injured in the past to show his stuff earlier. Fortunately, they aren't recurring injuries and his bad luck will run out. He and the Hornets take it to the West next year, and I know with the added exposure he will make himself a household name up there with Bryant, Kidd, etc. Perhaps more people will see the kind of performance he gives night in and night out with more tv appearances (as opposed two 2 this whole season); instead it seems alot of people just write him off based on his poor FG % (he makes them when it counts). Seriously, name a true PG with better all-around skills and more upside. With the kind of effort he puts in in the off-season, his unmatched intensity, his unguardable penetration and finishing ability, his severely underrated passing, his imposing D (when healthy; don't let D.Wade fool you here, BD was up there in steals), it should be no surprise when more recognize what a fine player and competitor he is. *Local Bias, but its all true anyway*
Jason Kidd is still preferable in about everyone's book at this point. Davis has the ability to be the league's best but I think its important to remember that being healthy is a talent the same as any other. Back problems are especially worrisome because they rarely go away. If I had to pick a point guard for the next 5 years it would still be Kidd (yes I know how old he is) and there are a few other guys as well. Baron would probably be 3rd in my book, depending on whether you consider guys like Lebron James and Dwayne Wade (who are their teams' primary ball handlers, but not pure '1's) to be point guards.
Ok, there is now way that he is the best point guard in the league and I would never build a franchise around him. Best point guard around is easily Jason Kidd. Cause, I'm sorry, but, just because you can score, doesn't mean you're a good point guard. A point guard isn't meant to be a scorer. Like JKidd. He's not a scorer. But, he is probably the best on court leader there is. Plus, he may not be a great shooter, but, he hits all the clutch jumpers. Davis, good shooter, but, he doesn't hit a clutch one nearly as often as Kidd. Plus, Davis has yet to have the success of Kidd. That's why I think Kidd is still the best. Because, he takes second rate teams and turns them in to great teams.
I honestly don't see why people knock Baron because he can score. He truly isn't a "scoring guard;" look at his assist numbers. He mostly score off of penetrations (good for a PG) and who else is supposed to be the go-to guy on the hornets? Mash is injured, and Magliore has potential but can still come up weak. He's been at the point from day 1, college and nba. Imagine if he had an athletic team to run the floor like Kidd, which is something BD clearly wants. Hopefully he'll get that this off-season.
Jason Kidd is the best PG in the league, no questions asked. I personally think that Baron Davis is a Top 3 PG in the league. At the beginning of the season, he was without a doubt the best PG, and quite possibly the MVP. But he is the best offensive PG though. He dishes the ball as we'll as he scores the ball. He's also good at reading the passing lanes as well. But now a days, he's taking too many random shots (Especially the 3 Ball). And he's lossing some production as being the PG of the team, and starting too be more of a SG. He needs to take at least -5 shots, and try to turn them into assists. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He and the Hornets take it to the West next year.</div> No way. Don't expect too see the Hornets in the Playoff's for a long time. West is too powerful. There only hope is Jamal Magloire.
If I had to rank the top PG's. It'd go like this. 1-Jason Kidd 2-Stephon Marbury 3-Baron Davis 4-Steve Nash 5-Steve Francis Baron Davis, to me, has the biggest upside among these 5, but I'd knock him for not being much a true point guard yet, and his injuries. He has a similar style to Marbury, but Marbury has the experience edge, and he does not suffer from big injuries. BD should put his mind to staying healthy, and firing up less 3-pointers. Those really hurt his game.
Maybe you should post in the Horents forum (not this topic but just generally), that would be good, my prediction for them next year was 34-48, look at their division, San Antonio, Dallas, Memphis, and Houston they aren't taking the West by any means. Lebron is not a PG, and neither is Wade really, so if I would pick a PG for the next 5 years it would be Hinrich, TJ Ford, or Shaun Livingston. Baron is a top 3 PG because of his variety of skills, he can score, shoot, defend, pass, pick passing lanes, get to the line, rebound, and do it all. With Baron fighting the mental free throw block, taking less three's, and going inside more he'll be a top PG for sure. Right now I'd still rank him behind Kidd, and he's very close to Starbury but the injuries bring him down. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok, there is now way that he is the best point guard in the league and I would never build a franchise around him.</div> The Hornets already are, and its not failing, even with his injuries it's relatively succesful. One thing that I think is oversaid is that as soon as a player scores he's not a true PG, just cause you're a PG doesn't mean you shouldn't score at all, a PG shouldn't have to average 11-13 points and 8 assists a game to be considered a true PG. I know their are players where it applies, but as soon as a PG is averaging over 18 points people start saying, oh he's not a true PG, he's scoring. Who else was going to score on New Orleans? Not every PG that scores is a SG stuck in a PG's body, Nash scores, Kidd scores, Baron is a true PG, he's not Francis just because he knows how to score.
Im going to go with my boy Jason Kidd, I see B.Diddy as more of a Combo gaurd than point because he like's to score and get's up so high like all of the other 2 gaurds. In my books JKidd would without a doubt be the better PG at this point but who knows B.Diddy might emerge to be the best.
Yea, it's not failing...yet. Consider that they move to the West next year. In the West, you need a good big man. Now, granted Jamal Magloire is good, I don't know if he can compete with Shaq, Yao, Duncan, consistently. It's going to be a struggle for them next year to say the least.
BD isn't the best PG in the league b/c of his decision making. He definately has the potential to be though. 1. Jason Kidd(needs better half court leadership) 2. Stephon Marbury(can run the half court and fast break, just hasn't won enough) 3. Steve Nash(Don't like his game that much but he gets alot done) 4. Baron Davis(Decision making alone keeps him from 2 or 3 right now) 5. Mike Bibby(When he is aggressive he is the top 3 easily)
B Dizzle obviously has an awesome cast in ones, Magloire and PJ Brown. However as much as I like him and consider him to be elite, he is just simply working too hard and carrying too much a workload. What was it, 21 shots a game is it? He needs to relax, the team is bound to get better as it revolves around him and Magloire, plus through drafting and trading they can become even stronger once say they get another established scorer to replace that useless bum, Mashburn. As far as he goes as a PG, he's like Sam I Am, shoot first, pass second, same goes for Marbury. However they score consistently and widely, yet retain high assist averages. That alone should allow him to be considered one of the best due to his unselfishness and versatility. He's damn good at steals and is fast. The effort and power come to mind.
B Diddy is good when he's healthy. he was a MVP candidate earlier this season until he got hurt. but the best point guard in the league? Jason Kidd. He's a triple double waiting to happen. Steph is good too
we dont say he's not a true point guard because of his relatively high ppg... you judge the pg mentality by watching the guy play and see if he is looking first to a) set up his own shot or get a teammate the shot b davis is a great ball player, but i would really put him more at the 2 spot than the pg, if there were another player who could play the point capably. too often baron tries to set up his own shot rather than run the offense through his other guys, which is fine for a sg but is not the mentality of a "true pg"
He's the 2nd best point guard right now IMO. But one thing has to be guaranteed, he's the worst freethrow shooting pg or sg to ever shoot freethrows as far as pct% is concerned. I just can't get over the fact he only shoots 58% and pct from previous years like that.
Unlike Kidd, Davis has good jumpshot and better footwork on the court. Given that it's the objective of a point guard to be the prinicipal facillitator of the offense, I would say that Kidd is (provisionally) the best point-man in the league. Kidd ability to post a triple-doubles on a team that doesn't shoot well, speaks to his skill level.
I gotta go with Jason Kidd on this one. Im sure he'll be around another 5 years and more, and hes simply the best PG in the league.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ReRun:</div><div class="quote_post">Jkidd is #1, but if ur saying next 5years, LeBron then Wade, then B-Diddy.</div> Lebron is not a PG. He should be playing SG or SF 5 years from now. Wade might not really turn out to be something as well. It's better to bet on proven stars who have consistent seasons than some rookies who have not yet proven themselves, really.
