Josh Childress A Warrior?

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  1. MR_SAC_KING

    MR_SAC_KING JBB JustBBall Member

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    I'm hearing a lot of talk about the Warriors drafting Childress from Stanford,because of the Hiring of Mike Montgermy

    What do the Warrior Fans think about the chances of Childress becoming a Warrior?

    I Personally think it's all talk from what i'm hearing on sportsradio,but think about it...I Think the Warriors could use a guy like him on the team?
     
  2. Warriorfansnc93

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    I would love to see Childress. It wont happen though because Mullin is in love with Dunleavy. I would rather trade Dunleavy and get Childress though...
     
  3. Rudeezy

    Rudeezy JBB Senior *********

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">I would love to see Childress. It wont happen though because Mullin is in love with Dunleavy. I would rather trade Dunleavy and get Childress though...</div>I wouldn't. Dunleavy has already proven himself in this league and has shown us his potential which is very good.
     
  4. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Dunleavy has proven himself in the league? Where did that come from? I guess... when he's playing at the point and beating up on smaller guards by posting them up and shooting over them. Too bad he's go to rely on Air France to guard his man. I'd rather have childress. I mean I like Dunleavy's court awareness/passing at the point/small forward spot but c'mon Childress has more superstar potential to him compared to Dunleavy and he actually plays defense.
     
  5. Warriorfansnc93

    Warriorfansnc93 JBB JustBBall Member

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    My sentiments exactly. Dunleavy would be great off the bench...
     
  6. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I mean I like Dunleavy, but I think we're really expecting too much out of him. He should be the guy that fills in to exploit whoever is out on the floor. I mean he could be the guy who punishes double teams on Jrich (if he ever commands that type of fear and respect) like a Pat Garrity to Tracy Mcgrady or as a Brent Barry to the Sonics when he brings the ball up as a point guard. Mike is so versatile with his scoring, rebounding ability, passing, and dribbling that it makes sense that he should be coming off the bench since Murphy, Richardson and others will be shooting the ball most of the time. And when only one person can shoot the ball at a time while everyone has to play defense, it makes sense that they have people that start that can play some D. Both Murphy and Jrich play better defense than MDJ (My Defense is a Joke)
     
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    I would love nothing more than for Dunleavy to mean as much to this team as Barry does to the Sonics.
     
  8. Rudeezy

    Rudeezy JBB Senior *********

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Dunleavy has proven himself in the league? </div>That might have been a bold statement but posting a 20/20 game isn't a fluke.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Where did that come from? I guess... when he's playing at the point and beating up on smaller guards by posting them up and shooting over them. </div>You have always used this argument to diss Dunleavy and it still does not make sense. Isn't that what you are supposed to do when you have size over your opponet? Take advantage of them? What does payton do to smaller PGs? He takes advantage of their size by posting them up. I don't see you bitching about him.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Too bad he's go to rely on Air France to guard his man.</div>No, Dunleavy guards his own man. He matches up with the opposing team's foward. Why doesn't the other team do the same? Because their foward can't hang with Dunleavy when he is running the point.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> I'd rather have childress. I mean I like Dunleavy's court awareness/passing at the point/small forward spot but c'mon Childress has more superstar potential to him compared to Dunleavy and he actually plays defense.</div>Haven't we all heard that before.
     
  9. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">That might have been a bold statement but posting a 20/20 game isn't a fluke.
    You have always used this argument to diss Dunleavy and it still does not make sense. Isn't that what you are supposed to do when you have size over your opponet? Take advantage of them? What does payton do to smaller PGs? He takes advantage of their size by posting them up. I don't see you bitching about him.
    No, Dunleavy guards his own man. He matches up with the opposing team's foward. Why doesn't the other team do the same? Because their foward can't hang with Dunleavy when he is running the point.
    Haven't we all heard that before.</div>

    All I said is Mike's role on the team should be different than that of a starter. And yes we know basketball is a game of mistmatches, but Mike would not have those type of inflated stats on a regular basis at the small forward spot than he would at point guard. Don't attack me because I disagree with Mike's role as a starting forward, I think he should be a point guard because at the small forward spot, he would struggle because he's not that much at a size advantage against most small forwards in the league and he's incredibly slow which means defenders are quicker to get out on him and score on him. Now if he's going to be a point guard that's great because there's so much height dispairity he'll shoot right over him and it wouldn't matter how slow he is because guards can't guard him. The next step would just to get a hell a lot of fast defensive role players who can help him out when he comes to cover the opposing team's small forward on defense. I never said he should be traded, because he's got a lot of use for someone that can do so much, but I just don't think its at the small forward spot on offense.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Rudeezy, you wonder why I'm not "bitching" about Payton being taller than most point guards because he is a real point guard and he can play some defense! [​IMG]
     
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    Dunleavy has now played 2 years. Where was Drexler after 2 years? Barkley? Allen? Jermaine O'Neal? Ben Wallace? Rasheed? They were not burning it up. Give the guy a chance before you rip him for not being a superstar. Actually, look no further than the front office, where was Mully after 2 years? Recovering and going to AA meetings.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Dunleavy has now played 2 years. Where was Drexler after 2 years? Barkley? Allen? Jermaine O'Neal? Ben Wallace? Rasheed? They were not burning it up. Give the guy a chance before you rip him for not being a superstar. Actually, look no further than the front office, where was Mully after 2 years? Recovering and going to AA meetings.</div>Exactly. My thoughts exactly.

    Custodianrules: I never attacked you. There is nothing wrong with people having different opinions and/or views. Its what makes discussion boards great.[​IMG]
     
  13. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">Exactly. My thoughts exactly.

    Custodianrules: I never attacked you. There is nothing wrong with people having different opinions and/or views. Its what makes discussion boards great.[​IMG]</div>

    [​IMG] I know but maybe I'm just sensitive when people say I'm "bitching" about something. I mean do I sound like a bitch? A lot of peeps have legitimate complaints and impatience with Dunleavy despite the fact he's had some really good games including the first, second games of the season and then some near the last where he played as point guard.
     
  14. Rudeezy

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    My bad bro, I shouldn't have used the word bitching. I just hate when people hate on my boy Dunleavy.[​IMG]
     
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    Dunleavy is the starting forward, hands down... even if we did draft Childress, which i say is unlikely considering he'll probably go higher, Josh would have to beat out Dunleavy and Pietrus for PT. Same if we draft a guard i.e. Harris, Gordon, Nelson.

    Childress is hands down probably one of the most mature players coming out this year...except for Nelson, Okafor, and Gordon. There is no doubt that he could be a star.

    I'd love to have Childress on the team, unfortunately drafting him would in turn mean that we become instatly forward heavy and would have to let go of someone. And unfortunately that would probably be Cardinal and in the end, this being Dunleavy's extension year we should hopefully see his full game come to life.
     
  16. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">My bad bro, I shouldn't have used the word bitching. I just hate when people hate on my boy Dunleavy.[​IMG]</div>

    I'm only bagging on him because my grandma could beat him down the court running backwards on two fingers (pinky and thumb) on her off hand. MDJ(My defense is a joke) has got wonderful offensive capabilities but zone defense/man to man defense it don't matter with this guy because he's not quick enough. I mean Rudeezy I've never seen you play ball but I bet your D has to better than this guy's. I've seen dead snails move faster than him. [​IMG]
     
  17. Rudeezy

    Rudeezy JBB Senior *********

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm only bagging on him because my grandma could beat him down the court running backwards on two fingers (pinky and thumb) on her off hand. MDJ(My defense is a joke) has got wonderful offensive capabilities but zone defense/man to man defense it don't matter with this guy because he's not quick enough. I mean Rudeezy I've never seen you play ball but I bet your D has to better than this guy's. I've seen dead snails move faster than him. [​IMG]</div>Well I have seen Dunleavy improve his defense in this past season. He still is not quick enough or strong enough but I bet he is addressing these this offseason. The guy has a high basketball IQ and knows where to be. He is good at drawing charges and being at the right place at the right time. Once he gets stronger he will be a lot more productive on the defensive end.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    One thing is for sure though. We can't use Zone when he's out on the floor. He's just got to get bigger and use his wide step to stay in front of his man and fight through those screens. And he's got to get those hands up in people's faces or on their shooting hand to force his guy to adjust. And he's got to stop with the reach-in fouls. He's not famous enough for refs to respect him.
     
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    I agree with your points custodian but like philsmith has said many times, this was only his second season. Fans are just expecting him to become a superstar over night. We need to stop comparing him to Lebron and Anthony because those guys are in a league of their own. Give Dunleavy some time to adjust to the NBA and he will produce.
     
  20. MR_SAC_KING

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with your points custodian but like philsmith has said many times, this was only his second season. Fans are just expecting him to become a superstar over night. We need to stop comparing him to Lebron and Anthony because those guys are in a league of their own. Give Dunleavy some time to adjust to the NBA and he will produce.</div>

    Dunleavy is a decent ballplayer,and I see him in another few years as a even better player..i think if Dunleavy were to stay with the Warriors for a long time,he would definetly help the Warriors in the long run...he just needs more time,that's all
     

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