My Plead

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  1. Giantsfan1

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    I plead to anyone involved with teh New York Giants organization to take Warner Out and Put ELI IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    I might not be on the site for awhile for the simple fact of my team losing to a bunch of LOSERS!!!!!!!! I dont feel like football
     
  2. Bearsfan1

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    Make sure you come back so you can add picture to your signature after I win our bet.
     
  3. Pack Attack

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    The Giants have a better chance of winning with Warner. To pull Warner and put in Eli is basically saying "I'm willing to give up on the season."
     
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    The next two games for giants will decide season. ATL and PHI. If they lose those, and warner struggles, it is time for the future
     
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    You cant put in eli. He is still wearing a neck brace from that jerome mcdougle hit. Seriously, i can see why newyorkers are getting inpatient. Truth is eli will come in if the giants are clearly out of the playoff picture and until then warner will keep playing. Im predicting 1 more loss warner is out.
     
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    ESPN just reported that Eli Manning will start for the Giants next sunday....
     
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    Hmmmmm that cant be good for my bet.
     
  8. MysteryMan

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    U never know. Eli can be the next Rothlisberger.
     
  9. J-E-T-S 1083

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    i think big ben will be better than eli in his career i called it on draft day i will say it now.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MysteryMan)</div><div class='quotemain'>U never know. Eli can be the next Rothlisberger.</div>


    But what if he's not?
     
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    Eli could also be the next Ryan Leaf... (My Prediction)
     
  12. Giantsfan1

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    If Krenzel and Roethlisberger can do it why can ELI
     
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    YOU PEOLPE are SUCH haters..... Ben roethlisberger can go 7-0 and everyone praises til they run out of air and now that the 1st oveeral pick gets to play u guys bitch and moan and doubt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF!!!! When Ben R went to play everyone said he was going to fail miserbly and he proved all of you wrong and i hope ELI does too BUT KNOWING U GUYS U WONT GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-E-T-S 1083)</div><div class='quotemain'>i think big ben will be better than eli in his career i called it on draft day i will say it now.</div>

    I will admit that I was wrong about Ben. He was pretty good in college and I got to watch some of his games on TV. However, when Iowa's defense completely confused and frustrated him, I decided then that the speed of the NFL would be hard for him (as most rookie QBs). I never thought he would be bad and knew he had the skills to be pretty good, but I never thought he would adjust so quickly given how he handled the Iowa defense. Of course, the supporting cast is a little better [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>If Krenzel and Roethlisberger can do it why can ELI</div>

    Krenzel? Do what?!?!? Thats funny.

    Eli can be a very good QB. So can Ben. Regardless of how good either are, most rookie QBs are not very successful in their first year. Ben seems to have bucked that trend. We'll see if two can do it in the same year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cowboy71)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>If Krenzel and Roethlisberger can do it why can ELI</div>

    Krenzel? Do what?!?!? Thats funny.

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    Krenzel 3-0. It is like eagles fans have been saying in defending McNabb it is not about stats it is about wins. Since Krenzel has better winning % than Mcnabb he is obviously a better QB.
     
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    Did you watch last night's game? You can't say a thing about McNabb after a performance like that
     
  18. Bearsfan1

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianWestbrook)</div><div class='quotemain'>Did you watch last night's game? You can't say a thing about McNabb after a performance like that</div>

    I watched entire game. I did say something after that, I posted stats comparing Mcnabb to other QBs in league before you came here and i was told it was about winning not stats. So Krenzel 3-0 100% winner. Mcnabb 8-1 89% winner. Krenzel better QB
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>YOU PEOLPE are SUCH haters..... Ben roethlisberger can go 7-0 and everyone praises til they run out of air and now that the 1st oveeral pick gets to play u guys bitch and moan and doubt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF!!!! When Ben R went to play everyone said he was going to fail miserbly and he proved all of you wrong and i hope ELI does too BUT KNOWING U GUYS U WONT GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE!!!!!!!!!!</div>

    Woo woo woo easy there tiger. I realize alot of people have jumped on the roethlisberger bandwagon. I for one watched him play and i payed close to attention to what he did at the combines. I knew ben was the real deal. He won 18 in row at miami ohio. Alot of scouts and mock drafts also predicted ben be taking before eli with his pocket poise and strong arm.

    I never was an eli fan i think he is living on reputation by a name. Like i said losman and ben were the best qbs taken in the draft this year and i will stick by it.

    In april leinart and rodgers will go in rd 1. Leinart being the top pick. Hell i look over talent before it comes out of college. Henne at michigan is gonna be for real in a draft 2 years from now with probably one of the best qbs ever to come out along with the highly talented rb from ou. Comparisons and hype of hershel walker.

    So no i dont hate eli, but i dont think he will do shit with that giants offensive line. Warner leds the nfl in sacks out on him, so whats that say. Giants offensive line isnt great and tiki barber is doing shit on his own. Ben is something special that only comes around about every 10 years. So til i see credit from eli i dont give credit til he is do. Hell last time i seen eli he was wearing a neck brace from a hit by mcdougle. Something great qbs dont do out of the pocket. Great qbs throw the ball away when no one is open.
     
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    Before we crown Roth king of the NFL lets not go overboard.

    He is averaging 200 yards a game passing(nothing special there)
    He is throwing a TD once every 15 attempts. THat is Great
    He is throwing a INT once every 28 attempts. That is not so good.

    He is over 100 on QB rating and winning. He is not putting up numbers that rival the top 10 qbs in the league however, in fact his INT % is worse than Josh Mccown, Tim Rattay, Kurt Warner, Aaron Brooks, Manning, Culpepper, Bulger,Green, Mcnabb, Carr, Plummer, Favre, Brady, Hasselbeck, Leftwich, Brees, Harrington, Pennington, Boller, Brunell, Griese.

    His TD percentage is higher than everyone but Manning, Culpepper, Brees. That is some nice company to be in.

    His Yards Per game is lower than 20 other starting QBs

    So to sum up, he does throw a lot of TD passes. He Throws a lot of picks. and he does not throw a lot compared to other QBs in the league. Is he Good? Yes. Is he the MVP? NO Should he be considered for MVP? NO Is he a top 10 QB? Not yet.
     

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