<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ice:</div><div class="quote_post">It's amazing how some people think. Denying one autograph? Of course not. I'm sure these guys have done this numerous times, but now they are exposed to the media. Turning away fans is probably second nature to these guys, they show no class nor respect. Now signing during meet and greets, open practices, etc. is a different story. The camera is rolling and they want to look good. Well, these guys don't even have to go out of their way - signing paper for 2 seconds sure won't kill them. Going out of their way would mean they would donate their free time to help someone else. Jermaine O'Neal for example, took a fan to her prom because she improved her grades. David Robinsion donated $5 million in 1997 to The Carver Academy. He later donated another $2 million for construction funding and scholarships. All in all he donated $9 million, which I believe is the largest contribution by a professional athlete. I'm not saying everyone has to be like David Robison, most 'normal people' aren't even as generous as he is. BUT, theres no need to tell a fan to 'F off.' I don't care who you are. Of course these guys aren't role models, and they obviously don't act like them either. However, most children will look up to their favorite star and try to be like them. Honestly, how would you feel if you were a young child who simply asked for an autograph and were told to 'F-off'? You'd be crushed. Most of the players are from the hood, ghetto, or whatever else you want to call it. That shouldn't justify them treating fans poorly. If anything else, they would be nicer to prove they aren't a bunch of hood rats. Sir Dez said it best:</div> Yeeah! its F0(kin amazing how some people think! how do you know it won't kill them, example: Steph is in a mall, and then someone shouts: hey look over there, isn't that the signing-autograph-automat-Steph? yes it is! hey folkes over here, and then maybe 50 people around him! and how can you say they treat the fans poorly, when they are playing their ass off every night? And talking about donating,what the hell has that with signing a autograph? Maybe Steph is the nicest person, in the whole world, and maybe he had a enormous headache that day, who knows? It's like you all hate starbury because of that, and all of you don't think about his game when you are cursing.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kareem.02:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeeah! its F0(kin amazing how some people think! how do you know it won't kill them, example: Steph is in a mall, and then someone shouts: hey look over there, isn't that the signing-autograph-automat-Steph? yes it is! hey folkes over here, and then maybe 50 people around him!</div> He picked the job, he's a famous NBA star in a public place. What else would you expect? He could either sign a few audis, or politely say 'no thanks.' F-OFF is definitely inappropriate and uncalled for. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">and how can you say they treat the fans poorly, when they are playing their ass off every night?</div> Theres more to life then a basketball game where they 'play there asses off everynight.' So are you saying that dropping the F word on fans isn't treating a fan poorly? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And talking about donating,what the hell has that with signing a autograph?</div> Because signing an autograph is NOTHING. I was simply stating the fact that theres some players out there who are donating their time and helping the community on top of signing autograpghs. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe Steph is the nicest person, in the whole world, and maybe he had a enormous headache that day, who knows?</div> No one knows, but when you are a famous person such as him, everything you do will be put in the public eye. Who knows, maybe McGrady didn't mean to call my friend a bitch. He just had a bad head ache. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It's like you all hate starbury because of that, and all of you don't think about his game when you are cursing.</div> His game has nothing to do with how he treated this fan off court. I never once mentioned his game, I'm merely stating the fact that most players in the NBA these days behave poorly. And no, I don't hate Stephon. Actually I don't hate any player in the NBA - I respect their game, but I have absolutely no respect for some of the NBA players off court lifestyle.
I don't believe you. called here a bitch for NO reason? ( If you listen to rap, what does a thug call a woman? Hey! maybe that's the way T-MAC calls women to?. why should that little kid expect him to be nice? if he is a steph fan, he knows he is a thug, and all that. How do you even know if the story is true? im almost sure, that if it's true, the boy didn't just ask him, but asked him again again again, till starbury got pissed and told him to leave the right way! I don't like wastin my time, so here it is, we both got two opinions, and that's how it is, and no one can change that. OUT!
how can you defend someone for telling a little kid to f-off? its one thing to deny it respectfully, but to tell someone, especially a little kid, to f-off, is never right. take a hypothetical situation: im walking in the mall, your kid comes up to me and ask me for a quarter or something, i can do 2 things, tell him nicely i don't have a quarter to spare or tell him to f-off... if i choose the former approach, then everything is all gravy, but if i choose the latter approach, now i'm the bad guy ain't i? fame or no fame, same thing applies here.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kareem.02:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't believe you. called here a bitch for NO reason? ( If you listen to rap, what does a thug call a woman? Hey! maybe that's the way T-MAC calls women to?.</div> If you want to know the full story, PM or IM me. I don't discuss things like that on public boards. I don't see a problem with calling women bitches as long as it's ment in a friendly way. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">why should that little kid expect him to be nice? if he is a steph fan, he knows he is a thug, and all that.</div> Wow. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How do you even know if the story is true? im almost sure, that if it's true, the boy didn't just ask him, but asked him again again again, till starbury got pissed and told him to leave the right way!</div> I guess you don't realize how common these stories are, which is sad. How long have you been following the NBA?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ice:</div><div class="quote_post">If you want to know the full story, PM or IM me. I don't discuss things like that on public boards. maybe ill do that, if it's that serious. I guess you don't realize how common these stories are, which is sad. How long have you been following the NBA?</div> Yes I do, but I just don't believe it ( nothing wrong with that, aight? ) I have been watching the game about when I was 1yor, naw, more like seven yor till now, why?
The thing is that a 16 year old is not a little kid so Steph was not telling a little kid to F off,I'm not saying what Steph did was right but I just tryin to let you guys know.I read that if you approach players polietly they will likely give you an autograph. Another thing is that if someone sees somone signing an autograph in public then there will likely be a huge secne,maybe thats why some celebrities decline to sign,but if they should decline they should still do it polietley.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How do you even know if the story is true? im almost sure, that if it's true, the boy didn't just ask him, but asked him again again again, till starbury got pissed and told him to leave the right way!</div> You'd be perfect for Kobe's legal defense team: Blame the victim.
There is a saying: "The things that count are the things that you do when no one is looking." or something to that effect. The thing is, Steph knew that 1 16 year old kid isn't that important. But put a camera in front of them and I'm sure Steph would sign the autograph with a smile on his face with matching pat on the head. That's why I'm never a fan of players doing charity events. If you really care about them, do it without the media and the cameras. I'm sure it's hard to avoid but you have to do this because you want to, and not only for exposure. Bad day or not, you can't tell a fan (who's wearing your jersey) to f*** off. I don't care if he's a thug. If he can't handle the attention, go play chess or something. Lots of people here made a good point. If you don't want to sign it, just say it in a polite way. Or if you're really having a bad day, ignore the kid and just go someplace else (which is also bad but way better than telling them to f*** off). If I was the kid, I'll tell him "still having a bad day after getting swept?".
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting STCBBall3:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the good NBA players outnumber the jerks though. You don't ever hear about the good ones, like Tim Duncan, Ray Allen, Jason Kidd, Richard Jefferson, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett etc. etc. Haven't we all known that Stephon Marbury was a jerk for a long time though?</div> yea, kobes a real saint. ecxept for that one night in colarado face it, if youre in the NBA youve been a star in one way or another since high school. u get to hang out with ANYONE u want. get ANY woman u want and get more money than u could ever spend. These guys who ggo right to the NBA from highschool are convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that their SH** dont stink. They think their SH** smells like 50 dollar roses
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see a problem with calling women bitches as long as it's ment in a friendly way</div> Now that was funny. But yeah, it still f'd up how you tell a kid step the f off for trying to ask for an autograph. What if it was a fan that has nothing to live for and the only person he or she admires just completely disrespected them like that. He or she has nothing to lose so stars gotta watch out on how they treat certain ppl. They could be crazy, stars have to think about that too. Sometimes they don't wanna be bothered, but like ppl's been posting. You don't have to tell a fan off like that, he could be more polite about it and just say no thanks.
Kareem.02, your way of thinking I cannot understand. If a kid, say around 10 years old asks you for an autograph, OK, you can deny. Not nice, but still. You left the kid standing there with his head down, heart broken, no more happiness during that day. OK, bloody nice of you. Even if you decline, do it nicely/respectfully, don't cuss at a bloody 10 year old for asking for you to write you ugly name on his paper!
I thought he guy was 16, not really a kid at 16, but Marbury could have been nicer, but I'm thinking its more of he didn't want people to start recognizing him and asking for autographs, so he was trying to quickly brush him off, but hey, it happens.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Startellis:</div><div class="quote_post">first off why would someone put themselves in a struggling situation if you were born there under a family that was sturggling when you came up what are you going to do. Second off whens the last time a white person cleaned up a black mess pleases give me specifics. thirdly I guess you are saying blacks dont support the basketball playeers by buying there shoes, jerseys, games tickets, Rap cd's, and movie tickets etc. and lastly just because of the clothes that you wear now have nothing to do with the neighborhood you came from. And you and me both dont know how lavish there lives are T.V. can bloat up what it wants to bloat up about a person. oh yeah i Guess you are saying there are no black policeman.......... right.</div> Of course black ppl support and pay money too, but i'm talkin about majority here. Its their culture. Industrialized culture has corrupted them. Like not all of them, but being put up in an environment that they did not make themselves. I know they live lavish lifestyles, if they dont, then they still have fans and stuff that will do many things for them since they're are pretty much celebrities. They do live lavish lifestyles, Jalen Rose said it himself in the Toronto Sun. Did I not say in the article about black policemen as well? Of course there are black policemen, in fact I know many black people as well that are way better than many other ppl I know, but of course I know the ones that are good to be un-americanized. The americanized ones live the best and laziest lifestyle compared to black ppl in africa, but they are the ones complainin the most of their lifestyle.
it shouldn't matter the age...18 to 80...you walk up and ask a superstar for an autograph they should be respectful,regardless of whats going on. Can they sign all of 'em? No way in the world, but that gives no one an excuse to curse a kid (and yes 16 is still a kid) who is respectful and doesn't have a rude bone in his body. EDIT: <font color="RED">This is NOT a racial issue. For anyone to make it as such is ridiculous. Race has nothing to do with the fact that some NBA players are straight up jerks. Please don't turn this into something it's not.</font>
well, who cares if they play they ass of every night, thats the reason that you'd want their autograph in the first place if theyre an ahole off the court, then you probably wouldnt want to look up to them...and yeah, you still may admire their game but with all that talent, you're someone's hero and when you're someone's hero, you have a responsibility to act like the person they think you are following up on what dre said, marbury being a jerk has nothing to do with the color of his skin. I'm sure there are plenty of white jerks out there too.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kareem.02:</div><div class="quote_post">Everyone, that think they should sign a autograph, come on give them a reason to sign you one!</div> Because the fans pay their salaries. If there's a more damning reason than that, let me know.
well i think steph has a right to say what he wants to say. And i believe the kid really wanted a graph and that he probally pestered him. but if he didnt I dont blame steph. Be yourself, if you don't want to sign then tell them you dont. Look Steph said in the And 1 commercial " I dont need your approval, I dont tell you what you want to hear, I dont play for Fame, I ball". period
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Startellis:</div><div class="quote_post">well i think steph has a right to say what he wants to say. And i believe the kid really wanted a graph and that he probally pestered him. but if he didnt I dont blame steph. Be yourself, if you don't want to sign then tell them you dont. Look Steph said in the And 1 commercial " I dont need your approval, I dont tell you what you want to hear, I dont play for Fame, I ball". period</div> thats a commercial. Steph woulda said anything for the $$$ so for you to use that to prove your point is..well..pointless. Bottomline,the fans pay these guys overinflated salaries. We pay for their merchandise that enables to live like kings. The least they owes us is respect where respect is due. And no,my cuz didn't pester Stephon Marbury's ignorant ass,he just asked him for his auto and got shot down by that punk. There is no need at all for any NBA player to treat a fan like that especially someone like Marbury.
Thats a commercial,do you know how much money he got paid to do that?Also all those things he was saying werent about everyday life but basketball.Yeah Steph has the right to say what he wants, but what if you went up to T-Mac for an autograph and he told you to F Off;how would you feel?
