Malone Fined

Malone is garbage, i've always hated him. He doesnt deserve to win a championship. If Stockton can't win one, Malone shouldn't win either. He plays so crappy for the lakers too, always missing shots, getting overcomplemented when he makes em. He's a cheap dirty player and never deserves to win.. him and Payton, Shaq deserves wins tho, just Malone i hate him, he's a freeloader on the Lakers.

 

What the big issue here for me, well there are several, which I've already mentioned, but consider the following:

This wasn't a shot at the person whom Malone should have been sending his "message to". Why does Derrick Martin get the brunt of this, because Spreewell leveled Fisher on a mid-court screen?

Why, because Karl Malone knew that if he realiated against anyone with a name, then he would most certainly get suspended. Instead, he picks on the no name guy that no one will get in an uproar over.

Pathetic Mr. Malone. I'm still waiting to the other shoe to drop and you get yours. It always comes around Sir, I hope you realize that.

 

It is kinda surprising that Malone didn't recieve retaliation back alot more like Kenyon did a couple years ago with that clothesline to the head. He went WWE on em, anyways it was uncalled for by Malone. He's so big, I wish he would chill out on doing things like that.

 

No suspension?First the NBA changes the catch and shoot rule in 0.4 to catch-turn-and shoot and now they dont suspend the dirtiest player of all time for intentionally elbowing Martin...this only proves that the NBA and Stern will do everything in its power to assure LA wins it all this yr , first they helped them out against the Spurs and theyre helping them out against minny...this is absurd.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">No suspension?First the NBA changes the catch and shoot rule in 0.4 to catch-turn-and shoot and now they dont suspend the dirtiest player of all time for intentionally elbowing Martin...this only proves that the NBA and Stern will do everything in its power to assure LA wins it all this yr , first they helped them out against the Spurs and theyre helping them out against minny...this is absurd.</div>
Bitter?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Undertakernv:</div><div class="quote_post">Bitter? </div>

Is that all LA fans can say?Thats all u guys seem to say in response to us pointing out that Stern is siding with the lakers...could it be cause its true?

First he changes a rule to favor the team he wants in the finals , the catch and shoot in 0.4 all of a sudden becomes catch-turn-and shoot...and now he doesnt suspend Malone for elbowing someone above the shoulders , while guys like Peeler are getting 2 games for the same thing...please be nice enough to prove my point wrong and tell me how he isnt being biased towards LA cause me being bitter doesnt have anything to do with that.

 

The .4 rule has been in effect for a few years now. You must have missed the memo.

Malone didn't do what Peeler did, he did what KG did. If KG wasn't suspended then why should Malone be? The rules need to be fair after all.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">Is that all LA fans can say?Thats all u guys seem to say in response to us pointing out that Stern is siding with the lakers...could it be cause its true?</div>

Hmmm...bitter are we? Because I'm sure if your Spurs took advantage of that 2-0 series lead in the conference semis, you wouldn't be bringing up this ridiculous garbage would you?

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">First he changes a rule to favor the team he wants in the finals , the catch and shoot in 0.4 all of a sudden becomes catch-turn-and shoot...</div>

Oh just stop it. Either way you look at it, it was a lucky shot. And it had a 50-50 chance of going into that basket. And lucky for us, luck was definitely on our side. Maybe if you actually played better defense and actually jumped in the air to put D-Fish in an awkward shooting position, your team probably could've won the game and the series. Perhaps you wouldn't come in here with ignorant statements.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">And now he doesnt suspend Malone for elbowing someone above the shoulders , while guys like Peeler are getting 2 games for the same thing...please be nice enough to prove my point wrong and tell me how he isnt being biased towards LA cause me being bitter doesnt have anything to do with that.</div>

Ok first of all, Peeler threw two elbows. One near Garnett's midsection, and one to Garnett's right cheek after Garnett retaliated with a little push. Malone has been checking people for how many years now?? I believe 19 years of physical play. That's Malone's game. He always tries to make a statement to his opponents that he'll be very rough and tough with people no matter what the circumstances are. No need for a suspension. A fine was appropriate.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Undertakernv:</div><div class="quote_post">The .4 rule has been in effect for a few years now. You must have missed the memo.</div>

Yeah , catch and shoot in 0.4 has been around not catch-turn-and shoot...u must have missed that


<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Undertakernv:</div><div class="quote_post">Malone didn't do what Peeler did, he did what KG did. If KG wasn't suspended then why should Malone be? The rules need to be fair after all.</div>

Are u serious?Get ur stuff straight man...KG didnt get suspended or fined much because he gave a little push to Peeler below the shoulders , and it was in retaliation to what Peeler did to him...Peeler got a stricter fine and got suspended because he went above the shoulders on the 2nd hit , Malone also went above the shoulders and got nothing...and besides if TD (a guy who never plays dirty) gets one game for inadvertently bumping into a ref , dont u think Malone (arguably the dirtiest player of all-time) should atleast get one too for going at someones neck?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah , catch and shoot in 0.4 has been around not catch-turn-and shoot...u must have missed that </div>
He didn't turn and shoot, he threw the ball up with his momentum. He's left handed so he was able to shoot it without turning. Either way, get over it. It wasn't even like the series went to 7 games and that game could've put the Spurs over the top.


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Are u serious?Get ur stuff straight man...KG didnt get suspended or fined much because he gave a little push to Peeler below the shoulders</div>
Right, little push...

 

Funny how spurs fans never mention that Duncan got to two lucky ass shots before D Fish got his.

Is Malone dirty? Yes, he always has been. I hated him on the Jazz but love em on the Lakers. He's just one of those guys you hate to play against but love to have on your team.

PS to all you haters the Mail Man will get his ring this year.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">Hmmm...bitter are we? Because I'm sure if your Spurs took advantage of that 2-0 series lead in the conference semis, you wouldn't be bringing up this ridiculous garbage would you?
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Obviosuly not...if Mr.Stern and the refs wouldve ruled game 5 correctly then my point wouldnt be valid now would it?

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh just stop it. Either way you look at it, it was a lucky shot. And it had a 50-50 chance of going into that basket. And lucky for us, luck was definitely on our side. Maybe if you actually played better defense and actually jumped in the air to put D-Fish in an awkward shooting position, your team probably could've won the game and the series. Perhaps you wouldn't come in here with ignorant statements. </div>

No need for great D...it was good enough , no need to risk fouling the shooter...ur right about one thing , it was a lucky shot--a lucky shot that shouldnt have counted.And what exactly makes my statements ignorant , is it the fact that they expose the truth and go against ur lakers?

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok first of all, Peeler threw two elbows. One near Garnett's midsection, and one to Garnett's right cheek after Garnett retaliated with a little push. Malone has been checking people for how many years now?? I believe 19 years of physical play. That's Malone's game. He always tries to make a statement to his opponents that he'll be very rough and tough with people no matter what the circumstances are. No need for a suspension.</div>

You know what caused the suspension dont u?It was cause Peeler went above the shoulders , Malone did the exact same thing and the punishment he got is nothing compared to what Peeler did...and just because he he is known for being dirty he doesnt deserve a severe punishment?Thats like saying a seriel killer shouldnt get as much time as a one-time offender because ur supposed to expect that from a seriel killer , ur theory is ridiculous and u know it...and like I told the other guy if guys like TD get one game for inadvertently bumping into refs then Karl should atleast get one too for going at Martin's neck.

Check this out too--Stu Jackson said he didnt suspend Malone because he felt Malone just lowered his shoulder to get passed the screen and had no intention of harming Martin , the funny thing is Malone admitted he went at Martin intentionally...and u have the guts to say they arent siding with the lakers after that

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">Obviosuly not...if Mr.Stern and the refs wouldve ruled game 5 correctly then my point wouldnt be valid now would it?</div>

I really don't need to be discussing this play with you over and over again, because we've all watched replays on this shot numerous times, but the point is Fisher caught the ball, spun a little, and threw up a prayer. And just let me remind you, when Tim Duncan made his miracle shot, there was supposed to be 0.8 seconds on the clock, not 0.4 so I guess the refs cheated the Lakers by decreasing 4 more tenths of a second correct? I don't care if you think it was an impossible shot, I don't care if you think the refs cheated, and I don't care if you think Mr. Stern would have a say on this. Point is, the shot went in. The Lakers won the game and you lost the series. Period. Stop with all the finger pointings, and the woulda coulda shouldas. The game is all but done. See you next year.


<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">No need for great D...it was good enough , no need to risk fouling the shooter...ur right about one thing , it was a lucky shot--a lucky shot that shouldnt have counted.And what exactly makes my statements ignorant , is it the fact that they expose the truth and go against ur lakers?</div>

Your statements are ignorant because you come into this Laker forum and post nonsense about David Stern having a say on that shot and this series, claiming that the refs cheated the game, (which all haters use as their first lame excuse anyway) and you just can't give credit where's it due. As I already mentioned, when Duncan made his off-balance miraculous shot, the ball came out of the net at 0.8 seconds on the clock. Hmmmm....yeah the refs somehow cheated the Lakers by decreasing four tenths of a second off the original time. Unbelieveable.



<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">You know what caused the suspension dont u?It was cause Peeler went above the shoulders.</div>

Peeler hit Garnett twice with his elbow!! Of course Peeler would receive fair treatment with a suspension. Once in the midsection and once to his face after a minor retaliation by Garnett. that's not hard to understand is it?


<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">Malone did the exact same thing and the punishment he got is nothing compared to what Peeler did...and just because he he is known for being dirty he doesnt deserve a severe punishment?</div>

Did Malone throw two elbows at Martin? You have to remember the NBA is a physical game. And that's Malone's style of basketball. Aggressiveness. Are you telling me what Malone did is the worst? There are so many other incidents made by different players that are far worse than Malone's hit. So I guess when Malone's knee hit Hoiberg's midsection driving to the basket was also dirty and unneccessary correct? Quit with the whining and enjoy your offseason.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">I really don't need to be discussing this play with you over and over again, because we've all watched replays on this shot numerous times, but the point is Fisher caught the ball, spun a little, and threw up a prayer. And just let me remind you, when Tim Duncan made his miracle shot, there was supposed to be 0.8 seconds on the clock, not 0.4 so I guess the refs cheated the Lakers by decreasing 4 more tenths of a second correct? I don't care if you think it was an impossible shot, I don't care if you think the refs cheated, and I don't care if you think Mr. Stern would have a say on this. Point is, the shot went in. The Lakers won the game and you lost the series. Period. Stop with all the finger pointings, and the woulda coulda shouldas. The game is all but done. See you next year.




Your statements are ignorant because you come into this Laker forum and post nonsense about David Stern having a say on that shot and this series, claiming that the refs cheated the game, (which all haters use as their first lame excuse anyway) and you just can't give credit where's it due. As I already mentioned, when Duncan made his off-balance miraculous shot, the ball came out of the net at 0.8 seconds on the clock. Hmmmm....yeah the refs somehow cheated the Lakers by decreasing four tenths of a second off the original time. Unbelieveable.</div>

Mind checking Kobe's shot with like 11 seconds left?Bet u some tenths went off as well...u know what check all shots under one minute , and tenths will have run off in practically every shot too.That happens all the time it doesnt compare to changing catch and shoot in 0.4 to catch-turn-and shoot all of a sudden...a rule is a rule and shouldnt be messed with , but I guess the NBA can make an exception for the lakers.


<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">Peeler hit Garnett twice with his elbow!! Of course Peeler would receive fair treatment with a suspension. Once in the midsection and once to his face after a minor retaliation by Garnett. that's not hard to understand is it?


Did Malone throw two elbows at Martin? You have to remember the NBA is a physical game. And that's Malone's style of basketball. Aggressiveness. Are you telling me what Malone did is the worst? There are so many other incidents made by different players that are far worse than Malone's hit. So I guess when Malone's knee hit Hoiberg's midsection driving to the basket was also dirty and unneccessary correct? Quit with the whining and enjoy your offseason.</div>

How many times do I have to say this , what triggered the suspension for Peeler was the 2nd hit in which he went above the shoulder...but even if u were right u still have no arguement for why guys like TD and Artest get stiffer punishments then Malone...TD got suspended one game for inadvertently bumping into a ref and Artest got fined $10,000 for flipping the bird...I guess the NBA staff are the only people who think those two things are worse then trying to physically hurt someone.The NBA has different standards for the Lakers , face it.
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For those of u who think Fisher didnt turn , look where he catches it and look where he ends up when he shoots...oh its a turn allright:



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And heres the only reason he got it off in time:



He catches it in the air with the ball at his waist , then lands and bring it up to his head and no time went off...the NBA had a chance to do what the refs and timekeeper couldnt , break it down as slow as possible and they still ruled it good , like I told u...they have different standards for the lakers.

 

And what were they going to do? Reverse the call and give the Spurs the win? At BEST they would apologize for the error, and SA would still officially lose.

 

Someone has never heard of hundreths of seconds. For all we know the clock could have been at .49 but we only saw the tenths digit. Like I said before, that game was a long time ago and the Lakers beat the Spurs in 6. :mrgreen:

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Undertakernv:</div><div class="quote_post">Someone has never heard of hundreths of seconds. For all we know the clock could have been at .49 but we only saw the tenths digit. Like I said before, that game was a long time ago and the Lakers beat the Spurs in 6. :mrgreen:</div>

Wow just when I tought u couldnt go any lower...now ur having to refer to hundreths to defend ur lakers

Just look at these pics , time went off in every single one of them all he did was move the ball up a few inches at the most...in the first two I showed u he moved it up a few feet and no time went off , the clock started late plain and simple:



Look man I know it aint ur fault the NBA is favoring LA , and I know u dont really care if they are cause ur team is beneffiting from it...but believe me if ur team had gotten the bad end of it like my team did , then u would feel the same way...since LA is ur team ur gonna keep on coming up with something different about how the Stern isnt favoring them , but he is.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">Look man I know it aint ur fault the NBA is favoring LA , and I know u dont really care if they are cause ur team is beneffiting from it...but believe me if ur team had gotten the bad end of it like my team did , then u would feel the same way...since LA is ur team ur gonna keep on coming up with something different about how the Stern isnt favoring them , but he is.</div>
And I know you're still clinging to any possible explanation for the Spurs' rather early exit but you've got to give it up. Lakers won 4 in a row. How many .4 shots were game winners?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Undertakernv:</div><div class="quote_post">And I know you're still clinging to any possible explanation for the Spurs' rather early exit but you've got to give it up. Lakers won 4 in a row. How many .4 shots were game winners?</div>

One , and that one was enough...that one shot drained alot out of the Spurs and it lifted the Lakers.It wouldve been a different story with a correct ruling...