#22 Pick in '04 Draft

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  1. throwback

    throwback JBB JustBBall Member

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    i could just throw some names out there but it wouldnt be based on anything. im still not sure what we are doing/going to do via trade and in the FA market. if we get sar, then i would think we would get a perimeter player via draft or fa/trade, if we get ray then i would say a big man via draft or fa/trade. we need big men reguardless, but i hope they have made this promise looking ahead to what we are going to get and will need.
     
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    InNETSweTrust JBB Philippines' Finest

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    Robert Swift sounds good. He can defend and score. SHould I add score with a high percentage. I mean, a little over 71% on the field?! He's young but he's not like those young European projects. He can also pass from the post. He's perfect for the offense that we're running. If they're going to get a big man, he is a better option than Peja Samardziski that nbadraft.net is projecting the Nets to pick.

    If they indeed promise their pic to a big man, I guess they're picking up a vet. PG huh? Looks like they have something up their sleeves. They'll pick up a 7 footer who can defend, pick up a veteran PG that can run the show when Kidd is on the bench and trade for a legitimate 2 guard. That should solve the problems.
     
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    Next Level Game JBB JustBBall Member

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    I don't know about Robert Swift. I saw him the McDonald's all american and was impressed..but can he contribute next year? Or will he end up taking a Darko roll? How long will it take him to be a solid contributer? If it took three years, would he stay with the Nets after his contract? Too many unknowns for me to buy into so far.. By the time his rookie contract ends, so will Shaq's likely extension and will he go back to LA?

    If they draft him, sure, but he better stay with the Nets longer than his rookie contract.

    I'm guessing with Kenny's expressed interest in becoming a back-up for Kidd, they're hoping he can deliver.

    I hope they do trade Kittles for a good to great player like Shareef or Ray Allen, but after the following season, I hope Kerry comes back for a cheaper contract and a 6th man roll. By that time, Rodney Rogers and Lucious Harris' contracts will be up and Kerry can be the main guy off the bench.
     
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    InNETSweTrust JBB Philippines' Finest

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    From what I know with Swift, he's an excellent passer from the post. Something that Twin can be proud of. The problem with Swift is his tendency to go after all the shots to block them. Now this can be a good thing but you'll be leaving some chances for the offensive team to get an offensive board. If he can box out like Twin can and still get at least half of the rebounds that he's getting in high school, he'll be an upgrade from Twin.
     
  5. Henacy

    Henacy JBB The Man like Sam

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    Well from what Iam hearing the Nets will use their 2nd round pick to draft a point guard, some of the names being mentioned are Luis Flores from Manhattan & Chris Duhon from Duke.

    Luis Flores came to work out with the Nets already. Me personally I liked Flores in college. But the thing that scares me is he is one those players that is trying to become a point guard really for the 1st time at the NBA level. When Flores was with the Jaspers he was an undersized scoring guard more less now he is trying to switch over & become an everyday point guard. Dwayne Wade made the switch from playing 2-guard in college to playing pg at the next level. But for the most part players trying to make that change over rarely works on the NBA level.

    Chris Duhon really excites me if he is available to us when we select in the 2nd round. He is a floor leader, he might not bew able to score like some of the 1st round pg's they had us selecting in the draft like Nelson. But he can lead a team & make point guard plays & thats one of the things I like about him. He is the only PG that they have rumor we would select in the draft, that I would feel comfortable handing the team over to if Kidd minutes were limited at the start of the season.

    And as we seen in the NCAA tourment the kid got heart & character, as shown the way he fought thru the injury he suffered in the ACC tournament vs Maryland. He showed alot of character playing in the NCAA tournament after that, & insprining Duke to go on a decent run. And me personally I like to inject a players heart when I am thinking about overall players skills. And thats saying alot about Duhon coming from a program in Duke where their players are often assosicated with softness. Duhon seems to have a little tuffness & character about him. And I like it.
     
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    InNETSweTrust JBB Philippines' Finest

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    Duhon would be a great 2nd round pick. He's perfect for our defensive sets. He's a great perimeter defender. He's solid when running the point. He may not be flashy but he can get the job done. But I don't think he'll be available when we select in the 2nd round. Word has it that the Magic will select him with their 2nd pick. Besides, his stocks are rising. He may even be selected late in the 1st round.
     
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    nbadraft.com has updated thier mock draft (updated 6-16-04). they now have us selecting Tony Allen from OSU.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DraftCity:</div><div class="quote_post">Strengths
    An extremely aggressive and intense combo guard. Plays tough, physical defense?blocks shots with his superb vertical and possess excellent hands which he uses to come up with plenty of steals (#1 in the Big 12). A very good rebounding guard because of his athletic ability, aggressiveness and strength. Very strong, works hard on keeping himself in optimal shape. Uses his strength well to post up his man and finish at the hoop. Good mid-range shot, likes to create separation from his defender with a nice crossover dribble. Excellent first step and either finishes very well at the basket or gets to the line. Jumps in the air and hangs, usually manages to hold his composure. Drive and dish game is his forte, likes to create for others but doesn?t excel at this. Can change gears quickly, likes to stop and elevate for the mid-range shot. Super confident, will palm the ball on the perimeter and take his man right off the dribble, usually staying within the context of the offense.</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DraftCity:</div><div class="quote_post">Weaknesses
    Undersized- 6-4 shooting guards are not too hard to find. May be able to make the transition to point guard in the pros, but might lack the distributing skills and mentality to do so. Ball handling is adequate for a shooting guard, but far from being NBA PG caliber. Outside shot comes and goes, very streaky?will need to improve significantly in this aspect to be able to stick in the league in whatever position he plays. Only shooting slightly under 30% in the NCAA from behind the arc. Sometimes takes too much upon himself, driving into brick walls and making careless turnovers.</div>

    DraftCity site

    first two things i liked even before reading his strengths/weaknessess was that he is a SG and a senior. osu had a nice run and i would mind picking him. first there are reports we are drafting a big man, then a bunch of sg's are listed on mock sites that we would take. i know they are mocks and are not really based on any facts, but these picks sound nice to have.
     
  8. Henacy

    Henacy JBB The Man like Sam

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    Tony Allen definately proved what he was about at OSU last year in the backcourt john Lucus Jr. The only thing I worry about is how he will matchup against some of the bigger wing players in the east but maybe Rj defense can cover up against the better wing players. I think that since his game is so polished & he is so proven we could start him if we lost Kittles via trade. But we have to keep Lucious Harris(who is also onthe tade block according to rumors), to have that veteran guard who knows the system to pick up for when Allen goes thru those rookie periods where he may struggle with consistency.

    But overall I think he is a draft sleeper. He is extremely athletic(so he will def fit in to our open court style) and he has a proven jumpshot in the half court but it seems to lack range. So we would be losing effiency from the 3pt area with Allen taking over for kittles. But he would be an up grade a far as creating his own shot off the dribble.

    I think Tony Allen would be a extremely solid pick at #22. And a much safer choice than guys like Wright, Kevin Martin, Telfair, & a few unproven guards they had the Nets taking with the #22 pick. But it still wouldnt shock me if we took a big body with that early pick. And way to take a shooting guard or a point guard with our 2nd round pic since there seems to be alot of solid guards that are projected to be avaible in the 2nd round.
     
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    InNETSweTrust JBB Philippines' Finest

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    But you must admit that these things excite all the Nets fans:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">A very good rebounding guard because of his athletic ability, aggressiveness and strength.</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">possess excellent hands which he uses to come up with plenty of steals (#1 in the Big 12).</div>

    Just think how that would help our fastbreak greatly. He's also a very physical defender. That would help. If he can prove that he can make the transition to PG, then he'll be a great addition. But I agree with Henacy that as of this moment, he's not worth the #22 pick. But we're running out of options. Swift and Nelson's stocks are rising. WE're better off with a big man with the 22 pick IMHO.
     
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    Chinkboi JBB JustBBall Member

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    Tony Allen is a great defender, he can block a lot of perimeter shots and he's very athletic and has great sense in when go go for a block or steal.

    He has pretty nice handles though he loses the ball too much trying ot make a crossover or a quick move.

    He can get his shot off and create which helps, but he lacks range. He was a decent 3-pt shooter in college, I don't know if he can hit the NBA 3.

    I guess he's a good pick, I saw him jump up in a lot of mock drafts.
     
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    jbbNJNetz JBB JustBBall Member

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    Alot of websites are saying that we might draft this Shooting guard Kevin Martin i've read his bio and all and his strengths and weaknesses. But has anybody seen him play im trying to look on the web for some footage on this kid but i cant find anything. He sounds like a really good prospect. Does anybody have info on him?
     
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    Well you can say goodbye to drafting anyone in the first round because of this cheap **** owner Ratner!
     
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    jbbNJNetz JBB JustBBall Member

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    yeah i know so did this trade happen or what now our future is going bye-bye. Cause this guy is to cheap
     
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    jbbNJNetz JBB JustBBall Member

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    we got veterans on the bench but no real youth that could give us points
     

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