Why so much pressure on high schoolers?

y does everybody say curry or brown both suck?curry avergae 14 points and brown 10 points and both averge 7 rebounds, isnt that good enuf for a high skooolers? they're obviosuly both gonna become the next kg or jo. kg and jo didnt avergae much their first few years out of the league, so y is everybody acting like y isnt curry or brown avergaing 20 points and 15 rebounds a game, they suck. how about see kg's number in his 3rd years, it equals to curry or brown's game and its decent.

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I agree many people have given up on those two too early, but I think the main reason they are questioned is because of their lack of effort. Both of them obviously have the potential to become very good players, but we just can't see the effort from them to become what they could. I still do believe Curry will be a All-Star center in the weak East within the next two years or less, eventhough I thought he would have been one this year. Brown has also shown signs of improvement, and although I don't know if he has as much potential as Eddy, he surely has the potential as well.

High School players are drafted out of the potential of what they could be, and there's no question these guys have that. But it's up to them to put in the effort or not, and most of the time it just doesn't seem like these guys are willing to do that.

 

For those interested, here's an interesting article regarding Spencer Haywood and his fight for drafting laws to be changed, which has turned into the foundation for so many kids coming in straight from HS.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree many people have given up on those two too early, but I think the main reason they are questioned is because of their lack of effort. Both of them obviously have the potential to become very good players, but we just can't see the effort from them to become what they could. I still do believe Curry will be a All-Star center in the weak East within the next two years or less, eventhough I thought he would have been one this year. Brown has also shown signs of improvement, and although I don't know if he has as much potential as Eddy, he surely has the potential as well.

High School players are drafted out of the potential of what they could be, and there's no question these guys have that. But it's up to them to put in the effort or not, and most of the time it just doesn't seem like these guys are willing to do that.</div>

ya i agree, a great example is tyson chandler. he doesnt go to the weight room and put on some muscles. u can see that in games becuase he gets pushed around near the basket when boxing out

 

There's so much pressure on them because they put the pressure on themselves with the presumption that they were good enough to skip college.

 

i think curry brown and chandler will be great players other players who come from the HS in is first seasons dont average too much.
Kevin garnett first season 10 points and 6 rebounds
Jermaine o Neal in his 4 fists seasons average a max in points of 4,5 ppg and 3,4 rpg
Kobre bryant first season 7 ppg 2 rebound and 1 assist
tracy mc grady first season 7 ppg second season 9 ppg

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ANiMuS:</div><div class="quote_post">There's so much pressure on them because they put the pressure on themselves with the presumption that they were good enough to skip college.</div>

short, simple, and right on the money.

:thumbsup:

 

I think Drafting HS is a BAD idea. Why? Well look at most of these guys. Usually it takes 2 or 3 years in the league for them to get to the point where they are playing at NBA levels. Those years could be better spent in the NBA development league (College). There they would learn more about competition and be working towards an education. What happens if you get hurt in your first year of the NBA? You haven't made yourself worth anything yet, and you don't have an education to fall back on.

These kids need to realize that there is a HUGE difference between playing a bunch of kids who are playing to get a PE credit and the guys who's job it is to make you the blurred image in a poster.

Now there are always exceptions to the rule. Lebron has come out and done a damn good job, but of the 8 HS graduates in next years rookie squad, how many do you think will be NBA stars in their first 2-4 years?

 

If you take Eddy Curry and Kevin Garnett and you compare them, you will see that they were put in different situations. Eddy was not given as much playing time as Kevin, thus limiting his potential for development. If you take a look at the statistics, and as much as I hate to compare numbers, Eddy only managed to get 16 MPG in his first season, compared to Kevin's 28.7. Even as the years went along, more pressure was put on Kevin to produce points, leadership, and mostly wins for the Wolves, whereas on Eddy there wasn't. Kevin's increased by a huge amount, having 10 more MPG, as Eddy's only went up 2-3 minutes.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">how about see kg's number in his 3rd years, it equals to curry or brown's game and its decent.</div>

Let's see 3rd year numbers:
<u>Eddy Curry</u>
MPG PPG RPG SPG BPG APG
29.5 14.7 6.2 .33 1.14 .9

<u>Kevin Garnett</u>
39.3 18.5 9.6 1.70 1.83 4.2

Well in fairness KG did avearage alot more minutes and Eddy case has been posted. It sucks to hear people say he sucks, but I guess since they're were already calling him Baby Shaq before he got to the league it really does make alot of ppl expect a whole lot more out of him. Since he's already big, most likely ppl thought he would be a impact player from the start like Lebron.

 

compare to jermaine o neal

 

It's not about talent and potential--countless guys in the league have those things. It's about work ethic, and despite being given their chances, guys like Curry, Chandler, and Brown continue to seem more interested in the boons that professional basketball brings (money, cars, women, expensive clubs, etc) rather than the game itself.

 

IMO, there is so much pressure on both Kwame and Eddy simply because they're lottery picks no. 1 and 4, respectively. No GMs would draft a high schooler that high unless they know the kid's got sth special. So, these kids haven't performed at the level they could have performed.

In the case of Jermaine O'Neal, he was what pick? 24th? So, nobody really put pressure on him because he wasn't drafted to save a franchise or something, the way these other high schoolers were. Prime example: LeBron James was drafted #1 pick to save the Cavaliers and he flat out delivers. I guess pressure is pressure when it comes to certain kids with certain characters. I really think LeBron goes through the same pressure, if not greater, but he finds ways to overcome the pressure and just be himself on and off the court, and play his game. Kids that can't handle pressure can't play theirs. But I think Kwame has shown steady yet slow progress, unlike Eddy who was supposed to have a breakout year after closing the second half of the 2002-2003 season strong.

 

Eddy Curry and Kwame Brown will only be Marginal Stars at best.

 

Why so much pressure on high schoolers? Because when they declare for the draft, they basically say that they're too good for college.