I was thinking if maybe it would be better for the warriors to trade the 11 pick and maybe Van Exel and try to get a veteran player that can help the Warriors now. Maybe Steve Nash that would be a great trade if it work salary cap wise. Some other options for the Warrios free agents, maybe try to get Brent Barry as a swingman of the bench or try to get Greg Ostertag as a stop gap at center just in case Damp and Foyle decide to leave
How can we get Steve Nash he is the heart of the Mavs offense. I Just don't think there's any way he'll leave Dallas or that Mark Cuban will let him walk. BTW, Nash is awesome, but I don't like the mention of Greg Ostertag. There's a reason why most coaches would have him in the dog house.
^ He is the heart of the offense in Dallas, and they want him back but he's a free agent. I don't think we'll be seeing a sign-and-trade deals involving him unless the other team is a contender in the playoffs, which the Warriors are not. I do like the idea of packaging the pick and Van Exel for another player though, it would clear up some cap space for them. I also don't think there is much interest in terms of making the team better for them in this year's draft.
I agree that ostertag can be a pain in the butt, still if the warriors lose both Damp and Foyle what are they going to do for a center? Is there a veteran center out there that is decent? as to Nash the Warriors have to try at least to talk tp his agent or the mavericks you never know what might happen
Yeah Toronto needs a point guard too. Milt Palacio and Alvin Williams aren't what you really call playmakers. Rod Strickland is but he's kinda getting up there in years.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">If Nash goes anywhere, it will probably be back home in Toronto.</div> His home is not Toronto, it is Victoria, British Columbia. If he wants to be closer to home, he'd be closer off in Seattle.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">His home is not Toronto, it is Victoria, British Columbia. If he wants to be closer to home, he'd be closer off in Seattle.</div>I thought Nash was from Canada? EDIT: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Canadian-born Steve Nash, the West Coast Conference Player of the Year at Santa Clara in 1995 and 1996, was a first-round draft pick of the Phoenix Suns. </div> http://www.upperdeck.com/athletes/stevenash/profile.asp He WAS born in Canada.
@Rudeezy. Yes, he was born in Canada, but I don't even think he has lived in Toronto for a long period of time. Saying that his home is in Toronto is like saying Baron Davis is in his hometown in New Orleans, when he comes from the Bay Area. Victoria is on the West Coast of Canada and Toronto is on the East. Being born in Canada doesn't mean you are at home anywhere in Canada. I don't mean to challenge you, but it bothers me when people get their geography wrong about my country. Anyways, let's just settle this. :beerchug:
No my geography isn't wrong. He would still be playing in his home country wouldn't he? When I said Toronto was his home I meant Canada. Not that hard to understand.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post"> No my geography isn't wrong. He would still be playing in his home country wouldn't he? When I said Toronto was his home I meant Canada. Not that hard to understand.</div> Well, does every American player play at home then? Maybe I did misunderstand you when you said he'd be home in Toronto. By that I thought you meant Toronto was his hometown. As I said, let's just put this behind us.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, does every American player play at home then? Maybe I did misunderstand you when you said he'd be home in Toronto. By that I thought you meant Toronto was his hometown.</div>Dude, thats different. How many teams play in the united states and how many play in canada? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> As I said, let's just put this behind us.</div>Thats fine. Wasn't a big deal. :thumbsup:
If New York was the only U.S. team I'd play for New York even though its way far away from California.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">If New York was the only U.S. team I'd play for New York even though its way far away from California.</div> Great example. I was trying to think of one like that.
Back to trading the pick...I wouldn't. First of all, people continue to perceive NVE's contract as a bad thing, but it isn't. By February teams are going to be fighting over themselves to get their hands on his contract and the 13 million in cap space it would create. It would be extremely short-sighted to trade away a very valuable asset (the #11 pick) just to get rid of NVE's contract which will become another very valuable asset in 3 to 8 months. As for who to take with the pick, I'm high on Pavel. I've loved him since last year and he's been destroying everyone at the euro big man camp. He would be a fan favorite and is already strong enough to come in and knock people around for 15 minutes a game. The thing I love about him is that he has more upside than just about anyone in the draft and could be dominant in two to three years. The only problem is that he may not get by Phoenix at #7. Still, there should be several quality big men like Perovic, Tiago Splitter, and Samardziski that should still be available. Any one of those would be excellent picks. And just to add a bit on Nash, there are a lot of rumblings that he's on the downside of his career. Who knows, by the time Speedy's contract is up, he may very well be regarded as a better point guard prospect than Nash.
Yeah if I were GM I wouldn't trade NVE's contract right away. You never know if you'll get some team like Atlanta willing to trade everything to wipe the slate clean after allstar break. I can see a couple teams that would probably do this next year. The Knicks, The Mavs, The Kings, The Grizzlies, The sixers, possibly. Also you never know what other team will do this offseason that could force them to move some people to clear up some cap space.
I'd say keep the pick... I'd either look at taking Pavel or Childress. Pavel does reportedly have Gigantism, the cause of his mammoth stature, though, and I have no idea what health reprecussion that has. It becomes a matter of who the center is. I'm fine with Foyle starting, if it would mean getting a guy like Childress who can play 2, maybe 3 positions as an SG, lanky PG, or SF.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Casske:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm fine with Foyle starting, if it would mean getting a guy like Childress who can play 2, maybe 3 positions as an SG, lanky PG, or SF.</div> How is that different from Dunleavy? I'd much rather take a guy like Podkolzine or Biedrins, someone who brings something to the table that the Warriors don't have, than someone who merely duplicates a player the Warriors already have.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">How is that different from Dunleavy? I'd much rather take a guy like Podkolzine or Biedrins, someone who brings something to the table that the Warriors don't have, than someone who merely duplicates a player the Warriors already have.</div>I agree. It would be like last years draft when we took Pietrus.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">How is that different from Dunleavy? I'd much rather take a guy like Podkolzine or Biedrins, someone who brings something to the table that the Warriors don't have, than someone who merely duplicates a player the Warriors already have.</div> Childress is actually quick enough to play defense that's the difference and he'll probably have more impact than Dunleavy if he can get on a team where he's forced to play more assertive. Don't mean to hate on Dunleavy but those are the facts. Dunleavy struggles because he's a bit too slow. Dunleavy can work on his strength and his shot but that's about it. You can kiss zone defense for the warriors good bye and transition defense when you have Dunleavy on the floor. I mean Childress has the length, the smarts, and fundamentals that Dunleavy already has but Josh has got an NBA body that can leap, run, and change direction quickly. He looks lanky but he's pretty strong. The stanford program has a good weight training program for most of its athletes including the basketball team. Don't get me wrong. I'm not a Stanford lover, but I think Josh has been the real deal. If there's anything I hate about Childress is that he could be injury prone, he's kind of passive, his shot isn't better than Dunleavy's yet, and that's probably about it. I love the fro, his awesome leaping and dunking ability. And you have to respect that his GPA and his SAT scores probably killed most of ours. Not bad for a jock.
